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News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:45 pm

ausbot wrote:I'd love to see armada tidal wave done in this style.

I was saying in another thread recently that I think that mold is under-appreciated and that it was about time it was resurrected for a repaint. With the theme being Pirates, I think it's a great fit!

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:50 pm

GuyIncognito wrote:
ausbot wrote:I'd love to see armada tidal wave done in this style.

I was saying in another thread recently that I think that mold is under-appreciated and that it was about time it was resurrected for a repaint. With the theme being Pirates, I think it's a great fit!

Forget a redeco/retool, gimme a Generations toy already! :BOOM:

Seriously though, more Armada homages would be greatly appreciated.

News Credits: 10 · by **Arctorro** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:11 am

Mindmaster wrote:
GuyIncognito wrote:
ausbot wrote:I'd love to see armada tidal wave done in this style.

I was saying in another thread recently that I think that mold is under-appreciated and that it was about time it was resurrected for a repaint. With the theme being Pirates, I think it's a great fit!

Forget a redeco/retool, gimme a Generations toy already!

Seriously though, more Armada homages would be greatly appreciated.

In Titan Class size, now I'd by that!

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:46 am

I also suggested in another thread that Generations Metroplex could easily be retooled into a Titan-class Tidal Wave. It already has a mode that looks like an aircraft carrier on wheels. Just remove the wheels, maybe add some extra molding to make it looks slightly more boat-like, give it new colors and a new head, and BAM it's Tidal Wave.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:14 pm

GuyIncognito wrote:I also suggested in another thread that Generations Metroplex could easily be retooled into a Titan-class Tidal Wave. It already has a mode that looks like an aircraft carrier on wheels. Just remove the wheels, maybe add some extra molding to make it looks slightly more boat-like, give it new colors and a new head, and BAM it's Tidal Wave.

I dunno... I feel that that would be a cheap, dick move on their part. Maybe if if it was an actual thing that they're doing, and we saw something of a mock-up, I might change my mind.

Then again, new-mold Titan-class Tidal Wave based on Armada that could be Trypticon's replacement as Metroplex's rival. Please make my dream come true, Has/Tak. :PRAY:

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:37 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
GuyIncognito wrote:I also suggested in another thread that Generations Metroplex could easily be retooled into a Titan-class Tidal Wave. It already has a mode that looks like an aircraft carrier on wheels. Just remove the wheels, maybe add some extra molding to make it looks slightly more boat-like, give it new colors and a new head, and BAM it's Tidal Wave.

I dunno... I feel that that would be a cheap, dick move on their part. Maybe if if it was an actual thing that they're doing, and we saw something of a mock-up, I might change my mind.

I don't understand what you mean. They're doing a pirate theme, and I think a repaint/remold of Generations Metroplex as Tidal Wave would be a great fit. How would that be a cheap dick move? They don't make brand-new molds for BotCon; they're all remolds/repaints.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:44 pm

GuyIncognito wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
GuyIncognito wrote:I also suggested in another thread that Generations Metroplex could easily be retooled into a Titan-class Tidal Wave. It already has a mode that looks like an aircraft carrier on wheels. Just remove the wheels, maybe add some extra molding to make it looks slightly more boat-like, give it new colors and a new head, and BAM it's Tidal Wave.

I dunno... I feel that that would be a cheap, dick move on their part. Maybe if if it was an actual thing that they're doing, and we saw something of a mock-up, I might change my mind.

I don't understand what you mean. They're doing a pirate theme, and I think a repaint/remold of Generations Metroplex as Tidal Wave would be a great fit. How would that be a cheap dick move? They don't make brand-new molds for BotCon; they're all remolds/repaints.

He means that this would feel like an excuse for Hasbro to not need to make an actual Titan class Tidal Wave figure.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:03 pm

Well, let's be honest; the odds of them making a Titan-class Tidal Wave from a new mold are pretty low. Using the Metroplex mold would make more sense from a practical, logistical and economic perspective. I'd call it prudent and rational, not cheap and dickish. I'd rather have Generations Metroplex repainted as Tidal Wave in 2014 than no new Tidal Wave at all.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:38 pm

In a way, it'd also upset those who feel that a more logical use for the Metroplex mold would be Metrotitan, and that to make a Tidal Wave out of it instead would be offputting to them.

Kinda like how many wanted a Flywheels out of the Blitzwing mold but got Doubledealer instead.

by **ausbot** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:23 pm

wait for botcon 2015 or tfss 3 for flywheels

by **Nemesis Maximo** » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:11 pm

Either Animated or HFTD Lockdown, repainted, and possibly with a new head, into Bludgeon from that episode where the samurai was a pirate instead.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:15 pm

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Either Animated or HFTD Lockdown, repainted, and possibly with a new head, into Bludgeon from that episode where the samurai was a pirate instead.

Say what, now? :???:

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:13 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Either Animated or HFTD Lockdown, repainted, and possibly with a new head, into Bludgeon from that episode where the samurai was a pirate instead.
Say what, now?

Doing a little reading about Bludgeon, I came across this under the heading of G2 (U.S.):

By "solitary exile", what Bludgeon had actually meant was "build a slag-off big planet-like spacecraft called the Warworld and attack vessels for their cargo across the galaxy".

Sounds like a pirate!

Source: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Bludgeon_%28G1%29

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:17 pm

GuyIncognito wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Either Animated or HFTD Lockdown, repainted, and possibly with a new head, into Bludgeon from that episode where the samurai was a pirate instead.
Say what, now?

Doing a little reading about Bludgeon, I came across this under the heading of G2 (U.S.):

By "solitary exile", what Bludgeon had actually meant was "build a slag-off big planet-like spacecraft called the Warworld and attack vessels for their cargo across the galaxy".

Sounds like a pirate!

Source: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Bludgeon_%28G1%29

That's referring the Marvel G2 comics, in which he was still a Samurai. He wasn't "looting ships for their booty", he was raiding resources to complete the construction of his weapon and army, like any old Decepticon would do.

Otherwise, G1 Megatron would be a considered a pirate all this time.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:00 pm

Megatron didn't have a sword though.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:07 pm

Sabrblade wrote: He wasn't "looting ships for their booty", he was raiding resources

That's exactly what pirates did. They raided other ships for their resources. Contrary to popular movies, pirates weren't seeking fortune; they were mostly seeking food and resources.

A Samurai, on the other hand, is a high-ranking military class that served nobility.

If Bludgeon was sailing around space in a ship raiding other ships for resources, he was acting like a pirate, not a samurai.

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:08 pm

craggy wrote:Megatron didn't have a sword though.

Your point being what?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:09 pm

GuyIncognito wrote:
Sabrblade wrote: He wasn't "looting ships for their booty", he was raiding resources

That's exactly what pirates did. They raided other ships for their resources. Contrary to popular movies, pirates weren't seeking fortune; they were mostly seeking food and resources.

A Samurai, on the other hand, is a high-ranking military class that served nobility.

If Bludgeon was sailing around space in a ship raiding other ships for resources, he was acting like a pirate, not a samurai.

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

But is FunPub going for the Pop-Culture Pirate, or the more boring but historically accurate Pirate or Buccaneer? :-B

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:10 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
craggy wrote:Megatron didn't have a sword though.
Your point being what?

Yeah, he didn't have a parrot either. Unless you count Starscream.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:15 pm

If we're going to get so pedantic about piracy, then every single Decepticon who's ever stolen something has been a pirate.

Are any of you really willing to go down that route?

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:21 pm

I'm not sure the world could hold up if plastic robot toys suddenly underwent a paradigm shift of those proportions.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:38 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
craggy wrote:Megatron didn't have a sword though.
Your point being what?

if he didn't have a sword, he'd be without a point. pointless!

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:39 pm

Sabrblade wrote:If we're going to get so pedantic about piracy, then every single Decepticon who's ever stolen something has been a pirate.

Are any of you really willing to go down that route?

since the Stunticons were made from stolen cars in the toon, does that make them booty?

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:45 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:But is FunPub going for the Pop-Culture Pirate, or the more boring but historically accurate Pirate or Buccaneer?

In this case, it doesn't matter. The real question is whether or not they're going to use that G2 story (the suggestion of which is what prompted this discussion). If the storyline is that Bludgeon travels around in a ship raiding other ships and robbing them, then he is a pirate and not a samurai.

If he's a samurai, he would be nobly and loyally serving and protecting his leader (Megatron?), while living by a strict code of honor.