The Energon Pub

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:44 pm

Godzillabot-2 wrote:I'm shocked they didn't use the BH design of Ratchet for Cannonball. I think a super-van with a huge-ass turbine on it's back would've been a more fun design of Cannonball.

I'm guessing they decided to save that design for BWU Jawbreaker should they decide to make him, and so went with this one to give us more mold diversity.

News Credits: 23 · by **Madeus Prime** » Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:27 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Godzillabot-2 wrote:I'm shocked they didn't use the BH design of Ratchet for Cannonball. I think a super-van with a huge-ass turbine on it's back would've been a more fun design of Cannonball.
I'm guessing they decided to save that design for BWU Jawbreaker should they decide to make him, and so went with this one to give us more mold diversity.

Still, I'd rather see a TFP Cannonball then a BW/TFP Jawbreaker figure (Seriously, show only characters are wanted Hasbro)

I really would like to see some other minor characters, like Cannonball, to get the attention for this, because, due to the storyline about Pirates, you can fit any number of characters in there.

I'd like to see maybe a figure made that homages Scylla from BWII. They could probably use TFP Arcee since they're not using BH molds (Those wings from BH would be perfect though...).

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:40 am

Godzillabot-2 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Godzillabot-2 wrote:I'm shocked they didn't use the BH design of Ratchet for Cannonball. I think a super-van with a huge-ass turbine on it's back would've been a more fun design of Cannonball.
I'm guessing they decided to save that design for BWU Jawbreaker should they decide to make him, and so went with this one to give us more mold diversity.

Still, I'd rather see a TFP Cannonball then a BW/TFP Jawbreaker figure (Seriously, show only characters are wanted Hasbro)

I really would like to see some other minor characters, like Cannonball, to get the attention for this, because, due to the storyline about Pirates, you can fit any number of characters in there.

I'd like to see maybe a figure made that homages Scylla from BWII. They could probably use TFP Arcee since they're not using BH molds (Those wings from BH would be perfect though...).

At least for the box set, they said only one Prime mold is used, and Cannonball out of Ratchet is it. They did tease the use of Classics(-styled) and Energon molds, however.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:34 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:They did tease the use of Classics(-styled) and Energon molds, however.

So, new game plan; we list all Energon and Classics molds that came with swords. I can't think any right now...

This is where Sabrblade and/or you comes up with a composite list of all molds that come with swords.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:01 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:They did tease the use of Classics(-styled) and Energon molds, however.

So, new game plan; we list all Energon and Classics molds that came with swords. I can't think any right now...

This is where Sabrblade and/or you comes up with a composite list of all molds that come with swords.

*sigh*

Okay okay, just gimme a sec.

*goes looking for toy lists*

I'll stick to just "Deluxes and up" since the TCC doesn't use Scouts that often. And I'll throw in Universe since people like to lump it in with Classics.

Energon Starscream
Energon Megatron/Galvatron
Super Link Galvatron/G (the smaller mold used for SG Megatron)
Classics Grimlock (sort of, his gun has a bayonet-style blade on it)
Universe Tankor (sort of, he has that giant double-bladed weapon that could possible pass for some freakish alien swordlike weapon)
Universe Ironhide (his weapon has a swordlike mode)
Universe Dinobot

Not really that many, surprisingly.

Though, there is also Energon Cruellock with its sword, but he's smaller than a Deluxe.

News Credits: 23 · by **Madeus Prime** » Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:13 pm

Cybershark is a possibility. I mean the bot was repainted into Sky-Byte and since G2-Redux had a Sky-Byte mold headsculpt...

News Credits: 23 · by **Madeus Prime** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:06 pm

I just thought of this, considering the hubbub about MTME, what if the Knights in the boxset are based off of the Knight's of Cybertron? (I can totally see BH Wheeljack as Hot Rod)

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:11 pm

Godzillabot-2 wrote:I just thought of this, considering the hubbub about MTME, what if the Knights in the boxset are based off of the Knight's of Cybertron? (I can totally see BH Wheeljack as Hot Rod)

I doubt it since that might feel like Fun Pub would be stepping on IDW's toes, dipping into territory that IDW hasn't yet but still very much plans to touch upon. For Fun Pub to do it first would feel unfair to what IDW has been working towards.

And, since this is the Wings Universe, it'll have to be its own thing anyway.

News Credits: 23 · by **Madeus Prime** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:53 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Godzillabot-2 wrote:I just thought of this, considering the hubbub about MTME, what if the Knights in the boxset are based off of the Knight's of Cybertron? (I can totally see BH Wheeljack as Hot Rod)
I doubt it since that might feel like Fun Pub would be stepping on IDW's toes, dipping into territory that IDW hasn't yet but still very much plans to touch upon. For Fun Pub to do it first would feel unfair to what IDW has been working towards.

And, since this is the Wings Universe, it'll have to be its own thing anyway.

Good point Brainiac!

Anyway, I'm hoping the rest of the set looks better then Cannonball

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:49 pm

I had a thought: if the Club decided to use the Scout size again, what are the chances of them using the Human Alliance Basics? I'd say they'd be perfect to accommodate the organics, if Silas Breakdown isn't an option (well, only one Prime mold for the box set).

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:07 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I had a thought: if the Club decided to use the Scout size again, what are the chances of them using the Human Alliance Basics? I'd say they'd be perfect to accommodate the organics, if Silas Breakdown isn't an option (well, only one Prime mold for the box set).

Well, that doesn't mean there won't be a Prime mold in the souvenir sets or attendance freebie. Suppose they were to use the Breakdown mold for another character like Fang or Earthquake? Or if they made an entirely new character out of it.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:11 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I had a thought: if the Club decided to use the Scout size again, what are the chances of them using the Human Alliance Basics? I'd say they'd be perfect to accommodate the organics, if Silas Breakdown isn't an option (well, only one Prime mold for the box set).
Well, that doesn't mean there won't be a Prime mold in the souvenir sets or attendance freebie. Suppose they were to use the Breakdown mold for another character like Fang or Earthquake? Or if they made an entirely new character out of it.

That wasn't my main inquiry tho: are the HA Basics molds available for the Club to use?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:51 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:That wasn't my main inquiry tho: are the HA Basics molds available for the Club to use?

That's a good question. I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't, but I don't know for certain.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:53 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:That wasn't my main inquiry tho: are the HA Basics molds available for the Club to use?
That's a good question. I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't, but I don't know for certain.

I like the idea, but I feel that those molds would be too soon to use though. That's just me.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:57 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:That wasn't my main inquiry tho: are the HA Basics molds available for the Club to use?
That's a good question. I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't, but I don't know for certain.

I like the idea, but I feel that those molds would be too soon to use though. That's just me.

Aren't they now about three years old or something? The Club used Prime Dreadwing for MW Megaplex close to just one year after it came out.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:00 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:That wasn't my main inquiry tho: are the HA Basics molds available for the Club to use?
That's a good question. I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't, but I don't know for certain.

I like the idea, but I feel that those molds would be too soon to use though. That's just me.
Aren't they now about three years old or something? The Club used Prime Dreadwing for MW Megaplex close to just one year after it came out.

Yeah, I just did the research. You're right, they're several years older than I thought they were; basing the info on Dark of the Moon Thunderhead, the Basics were released in 2011, and Prime Dreadwing in 2012. Whoops. :oops:

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:12 pm

It seems we've widened the scope of molds a bit wider ever so slightly. :-?

Plus, if Basics/Scouts are included one could easily "cheat" in the Souvenir Sets to round out the numbers. Normally there's space for 5 figures in the box sets, 1 Freebee, and 4 Souvenirs split across two sets: 10 figures. Scouts are small enough for them to include one extra in the Souvenir Sets, plus HA Basics are already 2-for-1. I just hope the Customizing Class is not counted.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:29 pm

The problem with using Scouts is that they cost as much for the Club to make as Deluxes do, so we'd be getting smaller figures for the same same price as bigger ones, rather than cheaper toys to allow room for one more.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:05 pm

Okay, after asking other more in the know about the Club than myself about the availability status of the DOTM Human Alliance Basics with the Club, these were the answers I got:

To my knowledge they're available, but in general the club uses basic/scout figures very sparingly as cranking up a limited run of them tends to not be very cost-effective. The first time they've ever done it [since 2007] would be this year's TFSS, and they seem to have mostly done it to get a previously Japanese-exclusive mold and to really knock it out of the park with the Chromedome/Rewind pairing.

So offhand I'd say that while it's theoretically possible they'd probably need a really super idea to go for it.

They probably could if they wanted to. But it's not very likely since they'd cost as much as Deluxes to produce despite their size, and so it'd have to be a pretty compelling reason for them to do so. It's why Rewind's the only Basic/Scout we've gotten in half a decade.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:25 pm

So in short, they're possible, but really unlikely. :-?

I can live with that, more room for unexpected surprises.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:29 pm

Ok, am I the only who actually puts an effort into ideas? :???:

To those who proposed using Lockdown as a Pirate:

and icing on the cake:

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:38 pm

I could see them trying that with the ROTF Lockdown mold.

Though, it's probably more than likely that most of the TFs in Cannonball's crew will be former Squadron X members.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:41 pm

Sabrblade wrote:I could see them trying that with the ROTF Lockdown mold.

Though, it's probably more than likely that most of the TFs in Cannonball's crew will be former Squadron X members.

Again, a girl can dream :roll:

We'll probably find out tomorrow who the next member is.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:43 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I could see them trying that with the ROTF Lockdown mold.

Though, it's probably more than likely that most of the TFs in Cannonball's crew will be former Squadron X members.

Again, a girl can dream We'll probably find out tomorrow who the next member is.

Tomorrow? Is that when the next announcement is? Sooner than expected.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:52 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I could see them trying that with the ROTF Lockdown mold.

Though, it's probably more than likely that most of the TFs in Cannonball's crew will be former Squadron X members.

Again, a girl can dream We'll probably find out tomorrow who the next member is.
Tomorrow? Is that when the next announcement is? Sooner than expected.

Well, I'm going by the past trends of one reveal every week, and since Cannonball's reveal was on the 3rd, we're due on the 10th, which is tomorrow.