The Energon Pub

Good mould, dull colurs. C-

hmm i don't know how to feel, as i dont have the mold

i'l have a proper opinion when i get the fig

Dagon wrote:

tigertracks 24 wrote:This mold right here makes me glad I did not order the set. I have two of this mold, both in storage because I just did not like it that much.

It would have made a better Rodimus Prime, or Hoist, at least to me, if it had a head remold.

Still like the two E-Starscream repaints the best.

I'm surprised to hear that Tigertracks, but I really like this mold in general and this is the first mold for the set that I like. THis is not a mold for everyone, but it does have it;s charms.

Eh, everyone has their own tastes. I'm glad they are making something that appeals to you, and not to me. Saves me money.

The idea was interesting, but the mold never worked well for me. The feet were always too loose, and the alt mode had problems staying together...for me.

This is one of the few figures from Energon I actually liked, glad to see it getting some more love. Especially in that color scheme, looks really nice.

I know all the other character's in the set, but I cannot remember Landshark from any TF fiction.

Can somebody point me in the right direction?
Is this just a completely new character?

Craptastic! Glad I did not order the set for another year.

Sid Burn wrote:I know all the other character's in the set, but I cannot remember Landshark from any TF fiction.

Can somebody point me in the right direction?
Is this just a completely new character?

Watch Transformers: Saturday Night Live. You'll find him there.

It's funny to read everyones complaints about this years set thus far. I absolutely loved landmines mold. It's a decent set so far. Look at it this way. There are no animated and classics figures yet which was the largest complaints and it looks like someone is listening! The 07 set was the best and worst (we all know that) We now have characters that are super rare in the transformers history in this years set. I feel this set is just as good as last years. I personally enjoyed the Energon line! They are one of the reasons I got back into collecting again besides Reissues.

Personal rankings: 1 out of 10
Kup:7
Scourge:9
Landshark:8
Skyquak:6
Leozak:10

So far this is the only one from the set that I really dig.

Nice version!

Where are all the people who wanted new or obscure characters to make up the BotCon set?

Counterpunch wrote:Where are all the people who wanted new or obscure characters to make up the BotCon set?

They don't care anymore, they got their Henkei Seekers.

As Shawn Connery once said, "I'm waiting to be impressed".

Like a lot of people, this set is really not doing it for me. This figure just looks so generic. I like this mold. I love my Landquake. But come on. The wings don't even fit on the figure. Are they even trying anymore?

I know I sound like I'm coming down on FunPub, but seriously, I am not happy with what they're doing. If I had known how crappy this box set was going to be, I would have skipped BotCon this year. But no, they make you commit to coming before you even get a peak at figures.

I really like the Energon Starscream repaints, but that's about all I like. If they're concerned more about the story than the figures, I say **** the story. After the convention, nobodies gonna care how Landshark got his name. All they're gonna care about is does he fit in with my Classics shelf.

All FunPub should be worried about is making repaint/remolds that Hasbro won't do, like the seeker set or Deathsaurus. I could write them a list a mile long of awesome repaints they could do that Hasbro wouldn't, and fans would clamber for.

Cybertron Unicron as Bludgeon.
Energon Sharkticon as pre-beast Depthcharge.
Energon Cliffjumper as Sandstorm.
Cybertron Downshift as Shockwave.
Energon Insecticon as Bombshell.
Universe Sunstreaker/Sideswipe as Punch/Counterpunch.
Universe Sunstreaker/Sideswipe as Brakedown.
Cybertron Shortround as Seaspray.
CD Red Alert as Double Dealer.
Energon/Cybertron Scorponok as pre-beast BW Scorponok or G1 Scorponok.
Cybertron Thunderblast as Elita-1.
Classics Starscream as Sunstorm or Hailstorm.
Transmetal Primal as Apeface.
Transmetal Megatron as Snapdragon.
Cybertron Leobreaker as Razorclaw.
Transmetal Cheetor as Rampage.
Transmetal Rhinox as Headstrong.
Cybertron Crosswise as Dead End.
Universe Onslaught as Hardhead.

Should I keep going?

Yes please.

The Double Dealer idea is awesome.

...I love it

Counterpunch wrote:Where are all the people who wanted new or obscure characters to make up the BotCon set?

I'm still here CP. Let the masses have the mainline homages. It'll be you and me against the mob. Just like Jesus and Moses fighting off the romans.

Mkall wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Where are all the people who wanted new or obscure characters to make up the BotCon set?

I'm still here CP. Let the masses have the mainline homages. It'll be you and me against the mob. Just like Jesus and Moses fighting off the romans.

Can I join the 2 of you? I think the Botcon set is all kinds of awesome.

I don't remember Moses being around during the Roman time though. I thought that would be more of Jesus, Paul, and the apostles territory. Not trying to start a religion war here, just putting more thought into something than neccessary.

robofreak wrote:

Mkall wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Where are all the people who wanted new or obscure characters to make up the BotCon set?

I'm still here CP. Let the masses have the mainline homages. It'll be you and me against the mob. Just like Jesus and Moses fighting off the romans.

Can I join the 2 of you? I think the Botcon set is all kinds of awesome.

I don't remember Moses being around during the Roman time though. I thought that would be more of Jesus, Paul, and the apostles territory. Not trying to start a religion war here, just putting more thought into something than neccessary.

It was a Family Guy reference. And sure, join our struggle against the majority!

That's why I didn't catch it. I don't watch Family Guy.

Seeing how quickly the Botcon sets are selling out, and the number of people whining I think we're just dealing with a vocal minority. That means the 3 of us can wage war on the majority of the minority!

GetterDragun wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Where are all the people who wanted new or obscure characters to make up the BotCon set?

They don't care anymore, they got their Henkei Seekers.

ROFLMFAO.

This set has been really creative, I'll give it that. I just don't like the mold choices for Kup and Scourge that much. I might be better with it if their colors weren't looking all pastel.

I love the Energon Starscream repaints.

This guy, well, he's Roadbuster's color scheme on yet another random AEC figure. It's a formula that worked for a while, but it's getting old at this point. Pick another color scheme to abuse over and over again.

Whoever that was earlier who had a long list of mold-character suggestions for Sets, many great ideas in there. I've been screaming for Universe Sunstreaker/Sideswipe as Punch/Counterpunch ever since the mold came out. It's effectively already designed to have two robot modes. Sunstreaker's chest for Punch, Sideswipe's for Counterpunch. It seems like such an obvious repaint choice. Hell, Hasbro would probably be wise to make it a mass release.

I'm not able to go to BotCon, so it's only the Iacon set for me (I got in under the deadline, woo hoo!)... meaning no Jets, and no Sweeps (which I'm thinking we might see as an add-on: A pair of Sweeps made with the Scourge mold, in navy blue and transparent purple)... but I'm getting off-topic.

I think it's impossible to please people with these BotCon sets. Some people want updated versions of classic characters ('05 Ironhide & Ratchet, '07 Seekers). Some want obscure characters from other continuities to finally be immortalized in plastic ('05 Deszarus & Chromia, '07 Alpha Trion). Some want the core characters revisited every year (Pretty much the entire '08 Shattered Glass set). Some want completely new characters every time (like most of the early BotCon exclusives).

There's no way to please everyone. Someone's going to get pissed off, no matter what... and those few will always voice their displeasure loud and clear.

So here's my opinion: I would have preferred to see a more extensive homage to the "lost period" in Transformers history... the dark years between the demise of G1, and the rise of G2, where Transformers only survived in Europe and Japan. So we're only getting a handful... that's still great. Some new characters are awesome, too, though I would've liked to see some more original color schemes for Landshark (as many have already said, ho hum, Roadbuster again). It's not what I most wanted (the hinted-at Wreckers set). It's not what I would have done, were I in their shoes. But it's what we're getting... something unique, something different, something familiar and yet new, all at the same time.

And I'm happy with that.

GetterDragun wrote:Yes please.

The Double Dealer idea is awesome.

Classics Jetfire as Star Saber.
Universe Cyclonus as Brainstorm.
Armada Tidal Wave as Broadside.
Universe Hot Shot as Chromedome.
Universe Hound as Crosshairs.
Cybertron Lugnutz as Groove.
Armada Cyclonus as Highbrow.
Universe Silverstreak as Jazz and Stepper/Ricochet.
BM Tankor as Quake.
Universe Cyclonus as Scattorshot.
Energon Bulkhead as Sky Linx.
Armada Cyclonus as Spinister.
Universe Ravage as Steel Jaw.
Energon Slugslinger as Strafe.
Classics Rodimus as Wheeljack.
Cybertron Ransack as Wreck-Gar.
TFCC Nightbeat as Minerva.
I could do this all day.

Don't they got Ben Yee on staff there. No offense, but shouldn't this stuff be obvious to him? I'm sure you can take a hand full of those ideas and string together a decent story.

If FunPub wants, I can do this stuff for them every year. I can think of a ton of repaints, group them together, and write a short story for each group and let them pick which one they want to do. All I'd ask for is I get a free set and free trip to BotCon. I'd even help them with stuff at BotCon like setting up display cases, judging contests, and helping run fan activites. I just wanna help them make BotCon better for everyone.

I think most people bought this set hedging their bets that the 25th set MUST be the best ever. Its always going to be subjective, but the moulds they are using are... I don't know... A little weird. One starscream repaint, fine. 2?!... come on...
I dont mind this repaint by the way - with the massive arm things it looks animated-esque. But if the purpose is elite guard, man there are so many things they could have done! Even a G1 Omega supreme repaint as omega supreme would work (no I dont have a brilliant imagination)!
That sunstreaker punch/counterpunch idea is awesome by the way.

I've been screaming for Universe Sunstreaker/Sideswipe as Punch/Counterpunch ever since the mold came out. It's effectively already designed to have two robot modes. Sunstreaker's chest for Punch, Sideswipe's for Counterpunch. It seems like such an obvious repaint choice. Hell, Hasbro would probably be wise to make it a mass release.

There's a simple reason why a Punch/Counter-Punch wouldn't work. The fists. They would have to be manually taken off and swapped around to make them correct when you transform from one robot to the other.

If FunPub wants, I can do this stuff for them every year. I can think of a ton of repaints, group them together, and write a short story for each group and let them pick which one they want to do.

Many of the toys you come up with are either too new (they couldn't use Universe, Animated or Movie toys this year). Too old (I can't see them using molds from lines older than Armada again). Or already had the mold used for a previous convention or club exclusive - as a rule they use untouched molds every time.

Besides, they're the ones running the show, not you.

One starscream repaint, fine. 2?!... come on...

There were two uses of the Cybertron Crosswise mold last year, three uses of the Classics Starscream the year before, two uses of the Energon Divebomb mold and two uses of the Cybertron Clocker mold the year before that... and three uses of the BW Buzzclaw mold, two uses of the Energon Towline mold and two uses of the Energon Arcee mold back in 2005.

So two identical molds in this years convention... completely expected.

Mkall wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Where are all the people who wanted new or obscure characters to make up the BotCon set?

I'm still here CP. Let the masses have the mainline homages. It'll be you and me against the mob. Just like Jesus and Moses fighting off the romans.

Can we ride on dinosaurs?

GetterDragun wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Where are all the people who wanted new or obscure characters to make up the BotCon set?

They don't care anymore, they got their Henkei Seekers.

Oh, so they aren't still waiting for the general release in Classics 3.0?

It's cool, by then retail for Deluxe figures will be around $65.

Land shark.