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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby Rodimus Prime » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:58 am

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william-james88 wrote:It's a non functional camera


Ah come the F on. That thing in bot mode is a huge cube with limbs sticking out. Even in the 1980's with the old film mechanism this could have been made functional. With today's digital camera technology, there is absolutely no excuses for it to be a non-working camera.
Yeah, there is. Greed. If it was a working camera, it would cost $300 instead of $150, and almost no one would buy it.
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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby primalxconvoy » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:58 am

Emerje wrote:
You guys got free Tshirts with yours? Aww, I want a free Tshirt. I ordered mine off AmiAmi, there was no such offer there. :(


The free tshirts only came with orders directly from Takara Tomy Mall, I believe.

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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

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william-james88 wrote:It's a non functional camera


Ah come the F on. That thing in bot mode is a huge cube with limbs sticking out. Even in the 1980's with the old film mechanism this could have been made functional. With today's digital camera technology, there is absolutely no excuses for it to be a non-working camera.
Yeah, there is. Greed. If it was a working camera, it would cost $300 instead of $150, and almost no one would buy it.


I don't think so. If you make an odd collectible, might as well fully commit and do something unique. Furthermore, all these botcons, Robosen, MP, Lego, Statues, Exclusives, and so on that are all technically "overpriced" sell out like hotcakes.

So a fully working and transformable camera would still sell. Especially if they make it a "limited edition" or some bull like this.
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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby Emerje » Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:09 am

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primalxconvoy wrote:The free tshirts only came with orders directly from Takara Tomy Mall, I believe.

Ah, that would explain it. I do have a TTM account, but I've only used it to order one figure.

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william-james88 wrote:It's a non functional camera


Ah come the F on. That thing in bot mode is a huge cube with limbs sticking out. Even in the 1980's with the old film mechanism this could have been made functional. With today's digital camera technology, there is absolutely no excuses for it to be a non-working camera.
Yeah, there is. Greed. If it was a working camera, it would cost $300 instead of $150, and almost no one would buy it.


I don't think so. If you make an odd collectible, might as well fully commit and do something unique. Furthermore, all these botcons, Robosen, MP, Lego, Statues, Exclusives, and so on that are all technically "overpriced" sell out like hotcakes.

So a fully working and transformable camera would still sell. Especially if they make it a "limited edition" or some bull like this.

Yeah, but there's several reasons why that would be a bad idea. First off it would have to be to the same specs as the real EOS R5 otherwise what's the point? And that's likely impossible since most of the camera body is probably taken up by necessary things like a screen and battery not leaving room for robot parts. Then there's the price, the real camera is around $3,500 and doesn't even come with a lens! Even the Robosen figure and trailer would be a steal compared to that! So yeah, no way would this be a working camera, it's literally impossible. Sure, we do have a lot of "functional" transformers, but we also have fake hats, phones, shoes, and game consoles, this is no different.

I at least hope it's a 1/1 scale camera.

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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby -Kanrabat- » Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:26 am

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Well, obviously it would never be the exact same camera as the original. But it could have been a basic potato camera with a low res LCD screen, micro SD compatible, just basic potato functions and it would have been fine.

But I can understand why the corporation licensing the camera would never want to be associated with a potato-cam.
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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

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william-james88 wrote:It's a non functional camera


Ah come the F on. That thing in bot mode is a huge cube with limbs sticking out. Even in the 1980's with the old film mechanism this could have been made functional. With today's digital camera technology, there is absolutely no excuses for it to be a non-working camera.
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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby Emerje » Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:45 pm

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RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
william-james88 wrote:It's a non functional camera


Ah come the F on. That thing in bot mode is a huge cube with limbs sticking out. Even in the 1980's with the old film mechanism this could have been made functional. With today's digital camera technology, there is absolutely no excuses for it to be a non-working camera.
[-(


Who wants an optimus that should have been reflector that has awfull kibble so it can transform into a non functional camera? Not me.

This probably wasn't made for you to begin with, it's for that very small cross section of photographers (most likely professional) that also like Transformers. Of course anyone can buy it, but they definitely have a certain customer in mind when doing branded figures like this.

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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby RodimusPrimeUkraine1 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:28 pm

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Emerje wrote:
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
william-james88 wrote:It's a non functional camera


Ah come the F on. That thing in bot mode is a huge cube with limbs sticking out. Even in the 1980's with the old film mechanism this could have been made functional. With today's digital camera technology, there is absolutely no excuses for it to be a non-working camera.
[-(


Who wants an optimus that should have been reflector that has awfull kibble so it can transform into a non functional camera? Not me.

This probably wasn't made for you to begin with, it's for that very small cross section of photographers (most likely professional) that also like Transformers. Of course anyone can buy it, but they definitely have a certain customer in mind when doing branded figures like this.

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I dont think even a photographer would want this. It's a replica, I'm sure a photographer wouldn't need a fake camera of all people!
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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby Emerje » Sun Aug 07, 2022 1:39 am

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RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
william-james88 wrote:It's a non functional camera


Ah come the F on. That thing in bot mode is a huge cube with limbs sticking out. Even in the 1980's with the old film mechanism this could have been made functional. With today's digital camera technology, there is absolutely no excuses for it to be a non-working camera.
[-(


Who wants an optimus that should have been reflector that has awfull kibble so it can transform into a non functional camera? Not me.

This probably wasn't made for you to begin with, it's for that very small cross section of photographers (most likely professional) that also like Transformers. Of course anyone can buy it, but they definitely have a certain customer in mind when doing branded figures like this.

Emerje


I dont think even a photographer would want this. It's a replica, I'm sure a photographer wouldn't need a fake camera of all people!

Their real cameras don't turn into an iconic robot, that's the whole point, it's a novelty. That's like saying people that own cars are the last people who should want Transformers.

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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:41 am

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Emerje wrote:Their real cameras don't turn into an iconic robot, that's the whole point, it's a novelty. That's like saying people that own cars are the last people who should want Transformers.

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I love robots so if the real car I want to buy won't transform into a sentient robot, I ain't buying one. [-(
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Takara Reveals MPM ROTF Starscream, Legacy Blanker and Dead End and Canon Prime

Postby william-james88 » Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:17 am

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We have some official images from Takara for several new toys. Below you can see images of the upcoming redeco of MPM Starscream in his Revenge of the Fallen deco. The accessories are the same as the previous release. We also have better images of Blanker (the Japanese name for Point Blank, an the official name for this release) and Dead End showing us their robot modes at different angles as well as the Peacemaker target master and the alt modes. A lot of fans are taking issue with Dead End's feet and the lack of certain articulation on Blanker such as no bicep swivel. Let us know if this bothers you or not.
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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:57 am

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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby Tracytron54321 » Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:56 am

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I'm actually really worried about Legacy Pointblank/Blanker... It looks like it doesn't have a bicep swivel... I really hope that I'm wrong
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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby DeathReviews » Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:00 am

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Hmm. Interesting. Normally, the feet on a car-former are way too BIG because they invert the back of the car to form the legs. But it seems they didn't do that for Dead End. So not only are his feet visually dinky, but he's got massive "THICC" knees.

That's a shame in some ways. It means the Dead End robot mode will be the dud. But, let's be frank - everyone is going to leave him as a Menasor arm anyway, right?

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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby TulioDude » Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:06 am

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I prefer Movie Starscream with the realistic F-22 color, but I can't deny how good the mold look with added colors. This version of toy really make of some of details more nitid.

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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby Stormshot_Prime » Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:11 am

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I hope that Canon Prime actually functions as a basic camera! I'm such a sucker for any figure that turns into something actually functional. Would kill for a rerelease of Music Label Soundwave or that badass Ravage memory stick.
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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby RodimusPrimeUkraine1 » Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:14 am

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Stormshot_Prime wrote:I hope that Canon Prime actually functions as a basic camera! I'm such a sucker for any figure that turns into something actually functional. Would kill for a rerelease of Music Label Soundwave or that badass Ravage memory stick.


According to everyone, he doesn't function. If he did I'd probably forgive his bad transformation.
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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby blackeyedprime » Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:59 am

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MPM Starscream looks better some how with the pattern on him.

Pointblank really needs a waist add on.

Deadend looks really bad as an arm and would likely need figures stood in front of him or around him to hide his feet/lower back legs which is a shame.

Canon Prime looks like they have given it weak feet like the console bots (wI really like the console bots tbf) and has a really compromised bot mode for all the camera parts. No obvious signs of ingenuity like roller being film roll (yes I know it's not that kind of camera but come on) etc etc and the matrix placement is awkward too.
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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby G1OptimusPAX » Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:10 pm

Man, I pass on pointblank. I think they could have done better.
I'm mostly here for deadend. I like the car mode, the attached mode is what I expected and I can't wait for him even though wildrider has been shown an released in some regions an I don't own him yet, but I need this set to be completed and judging off of deadends feet, I hope they don't mess up breakdown. In my opinion these feet are the first mess up to this set. So just one more to see. Cmon breakdown.
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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby SpaceEagle » Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:14 pm

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DeathReviews wrote:Hmm. Interesting. Normally, the feet on a car-former are way too BIG because they invert the back of the car to form the legs. But it seems they didn't do that for Dead End. So not only are his feet visually dinky, but he's got massive "THICC" knees.

That's a shame in some ways. It means the Dead End robot mode will be the dud. But, let's be frank - everyone is going to leave him as a Menasor arm anyway, right?

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It doesn't seem bad at all to me honestly! At least he has real feet compared to the Combiner Wars version - and doesn't look super similar to Wildrider either.
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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby Tuned Agent » Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:17 pm

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That Starscream looks great. My only nitpick is few parts molded in beige plastic, but that's a minor nitpick. I wonder if Target will stock this version after they immediately clearanced the original release?

Canon Prime actually looks really interesting! I get major Real Gear Robots Spyshot 6 vibes from the transformation, especially the legs forming the side of the camera and swinging down relative to the torso. It also looks like the lens assembly with the head (and arms?) folding out from it, and the lens side panels fold over onto his back. Not something I'm interested in buying, but I definitely would like to see exactly how that transformation works.

Dead End looks good. I'm cool with his feet. That's all I've got.

Pointblank/Blanker.... doesn't have a bicep swivel? The figure looked rough before, but missing articulation that's been standard for like 15 years is pretty much the death blow for me. If nothing else, pointblank will now serve as the example to fans of targetmasters, powermasters and Armada characters why modern figures can't come with their little partners. Budgets just can't support that anymore (and even with peacemaker this toy screams budget cuts).

Stormshot_Prime wrote:I hope that Canon Prime actually functions as a basic camera! I'm such a sucker for any figure that turns into something actually functional. Would kill for a rerelease of Music Label Soundwave or that badass Ravage memory stick.

Device Label Ravage is arguably the best Ravage ever made, and I really want to see that design revisited and refined in core class, USB stick alt mode and all (obviously non-functional at that price).
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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby SpaceEagle » Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:25 pm

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It looks like Pointblank might have a swivel deep in the shoulder kibble, but it's really hard to tell (and probably doesn't exist.)
I know the other stock photos don't even try to make him use the "swivel" so it probably really doesn't exist.
Maybe I'm just unable to accept such a baffling decision, I'd honestly rather sacrifice ankle articulation if it means gaining proper arm articulation. We've lived years without ankle tilts in TFs, so I have no idea why they went with no bicep swivel. A shame since I personally really enjoy how the figure looks otherwise.
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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby G1OptimusPAX » Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:36 pm

In these times, at these price points and giving extra kibble pieces (to justify the hike in price) for no reason... there should be no compromises. They should all have ankle, wrist, hand, neck and every other articulation not mentioned)
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Re: More Reveals on August 10 from Takara Including MPM ROTF Starscream and Canon Camera Optimus Prime

Postby william-james88 » Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:18 pm

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SpaceEagle wrote:It looks like Pointblank might have a swivel deep in the shoulder kibble, but it's really hard to tell (and probably doesn't exist.)
I know the other stock photos don't even try to make him use the "swivel" so it probably really doesn't exist.
Maybe I'm just unable to accept such a baffling decision, I'd honestly rather sacrifice ankle articulation if it means gaining proper arm articulation. We've lived years without ankle tilts in TFs, so I have no idea why they went with no bicep swivel. A shame since I personally really enjoy how the figure looks otherwise.


Looks like they couldn't do a bicep swivel, so they gave him a swivel at the forearm
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