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Stunning!!!

Prime Riblet wrote:the color is off. also, if we are going to pay good money for the car, why should we have to do a costly "tinted clear-coat"......as well as that isn't going to fix the whole problem. also, if the going price at that dealership would be around the $40 K mark, then that dealership is marking up the price well over the MSRP, even for an SS model equipped with the package. Hence the reason why GM is now owned by the American gov't and people. Well, I should say Part of the reason.

Im saying 40K is where a loaded SS camaro price is at they're the lower end models that are cheaper. I work at the local chevy dealer, and I do some of the new car prepps. I drove an orange SS camaro yesterday with a window sticker of 38,928. After you go thru tax, title and liscense it will be over the 40K. Now the clear coat is the cheaper option to get the color right, right now.

The correct color and bumpers are picture below and reserved for the upcoming Z28 which has been delayed, but will be coming out. GM wants to compete against the Shelby mustangs ford is putting out.

My comment about the small minded was saying so what the car is not a perfect replica. I don't see any other movie cars that have been produced to this scale feel fortuate GM at least offering something. If your not happy about what is being offered righ now, there is nothing you can do about it, so why complain? Be happy that GM is at least considering doing this for the fans in their current financial state.

azra wrote:Huh. Show me a Sideswipe concept Corvette with all the Autobot trimmings, then I'll get excited.

Sorry to disappoint but the Corvette stingray concept will not be seeing any production . I personally like the look of sideswipe.

Joshua Vallse wrote:
Were these the advertisements I saw on the back of Entertainment Weekly? The one's where they had the tag line

"In Theatres July 24, In Garages now"

Yes, among several others. TV commercials, the original announcement of the Bumble Bee addition being produced even mentioned the fact that it was going to have the same bumpers, wheels and hood, but did say that it wasn't going to have the same color and instead was going to use the standard Rally yellow.

Joshua Vallse wrote:I recall GM putting up vids on their Chevy site going into further detail over the whole process of the Camaro....and how alot of what we see featured in Revenge of the Fallen was more "Concept" stuff, being the bumper and hood are in fact concept add on's, and therefore not available. The Closest you could come is adding on a Ground Trim package which get's you closer to the over all look, however the square trim around the fog lights are not included, and are rounded on all the available models being sold. So, generally, I'd say until GM releases these conceptual add on's, other then a custom job, there's no way to obtain a full on ROTF replica. But I'm not deterred, being I'm more then content with a TF1 movie replica of the Bee.

As i mentioned before, the original announcement, as well as the posters and banners all showed the ROTF Camaro as the one that was going to be produced. I understand that all the parts were concept at the time, but if GM wanted to do a replica, then they should have done just that.. A replica. Not a standard yellow Camaro with some badging and stickers and call it a replica.

Joshua Vallse wrote:I'd say I'd agree with you that for those calling foul on the amount of decals and the "Transformers" logo trim on the hood and elsewhere....the best you could do is build your own at the Chevy website, and get what you want but pay less. Yes this car is nothing special outside of being yet another 2010 Camaro....except for the fact it's a 2010 CAMARO!!!!!


I mean, custom bumper or no custom bumper....this car is beautiful!!!!! I'm more then willing to settle for a 2010 Camaro any day and ride it up and down the PCH with the windows down blasting "Burning Down the House" then pouting over the concept bumper and hood. If the issue is $, like I said make your own, pay less, and add on to it at your leisure.

And there in lies the problem. Not money, but the fact that if I'm going to pay the extra $, i want something truly special. Not a vehicle that can basically be built on Ebay for 1/4 of the mark up price. The hood, bumpers and all the other BB add ons is what made him just a little bit more special. But either way your definitely right. The 2010' Camaro is Bad Fu(king a$$!

Joshua Vallse wrote: If the issue is ethics in false advertisement, then don't buy the Transformer package and just settle for the normal LS Camaro package. It's cheaper, your ethics are intact, and if you still feel bad pick another color scheme and name it Cliffjumper or anything else you want.

Its not ethics, but again disappointment.

Joshua Vallse wrote:Personally, if I do decide to dump my savings into this awesome machine.....I would pick another color scheme just for the fact that the yellow black stripe scheme is easier noticed and you'll invite more attention to yourself then you might want, including young rent-a-thug attention who would see to vandalize your car. Also on the freeways, it would be easier the spot your car because of the color scheme verses if you aquired a more darker tone...but this is for people like me who suffer from heavy feet/gas syndrome. Heh .

I don't have a problem owning bright colored vehicles. My current ride is a Yellow FJ Cruiser. I have no problems being scene, or anyone noticing me. I don't do anything to atractextra unwarranted attention anyways. (well, i try not to at least )

BluavalancheZ71 wrote:

The correct color and bumpers are picture below and reserved for the upcoming Z28 which has been delayed, but will be coming out. GM wants to compete against the Shelby mustangs ford is putting out.

I doubt it has anything to do with them reserving the color and bumpers for the Z28. If that were the case, they never made completely different bumpers and hood for BB all together. But more to due with the fact that GM just simply couldn't afford to mass produce even a short amount of hoods and bumpers for a movie replica. They really need to cross there T's and Dot there I's so to speak right now, and a true BB replica probably just wasn't in the financial works.

So saying that why am i still bitching? Cause i can of course! That and like i said... Its still disappointing. I kinda feel this is more of cheap ploy than anything else.

5150 Cruiser,

I find nearly all of your points valid, and I noticed alot of my verbage seemed to be directed to you....I didn't mean it that way, though you are very open which is kind of refreshing here ha ha ha. But my comments in general are open to everyone, and what I read in most threads as a whole. Mostly, I'm reading alot of people kind of just whinning about the bumper, which is fine, it's everyones right. But I just can't see all the disheartening feelings towards this car. But then again, maybe I'm reflecting this thread as a open discussion thread about the Camaro then about the "Transformers" package, in which case I can understand where people are coming from.

However being GM isn't exactly financially sound, for them to release a particular model bumper just for one specific model of car verses all SS or SS2 models....just isn't sound. I can see why GM wouldn't do that, being it doesn't seem like a sound investment for a company thats in rough waters right now. Perhaps they're seeing how the reception to this car and package is before they expand on further packages and customization parts?

But I understand paying that much more for a standard SS1...(I don't think the model featured here is the SS2 right?) Which is why I'm suggesting to everyone....build your own, pay less, and have fun.

Ah, FJ Cruiser....nice. I own a modest Mazda 3 being it saves me on gas. But I work her hard, even beaten a few Mustangs and Challengers. Both old and new. On these Cali freeways, it really isn't about speed then it is how good you can move that chassis ha ha ha ha Still she has some power behind here, which is why I'm reluctant to own this Camaro...I don't fully trust myself with it

I also read somewhere here the Stingray concept won't be manufactured at this time, which is sad. However I do see the car being released on a limited run, if only for the car collectors. But waaaayyyyyy down the road.

But anyways just to sum up...the 2010 Camaro reeks of Awesomeness. Pure and simple. And the price tag isn't too shabby, roughly 24K for 304 Horse Power and a tap shift option! Sign me up

Laters,
Josh

BluavalancheZ71 wrote:My comment about the small minded was saying so what the car is not a perfect replica. I don't see any other movie cars that have been produced to this scale feel fortuate GM at least offering something. If your not happy about what is being offered righ now, there is nothing you can do about it, so why complain? Be happy that GM is at least considering doing this for the fans in their current financial state.

Do you understand the logical fallacy in this argument? Why anyone would think it's acceptable to tell someone else they should just be happy with whatever they're given is beyond me. This is obviously always false. We, as fans, have the right to question and criticize anything and everything we want. The argument "there is nothing you can do about it, so why complain?" is invalid. We are entitled to our opinions, there is no universal law that dictates as fans we must praise everything.

Phenotype wrote:

BluavalancheZ71 wrote:My comment about the small minded was saying so what the car is not a perfect replica. I don't see any other movie cars that have been produced to this scale feel fortuate GM at least offering something. If your not happy about what is being offered righ now, there is nothing you can do about it, so why complain? Be happy that GM is at least considering doing this for the fans in their current financial state.

Do you understand the logical fallacy in this argument? Why anyone would think it's acceptable to tell someone else they should just be happy with whatever they're given is beyond me. This is obviously always false. We, as fans, have the right to question and criticize anything and everything we want. The argument "there is nothing you can do about it, so why complain?" is invalid. We are entitled to our opinions, there is no universal law that dictates as fans we must praise everything.

What should be Universal Law is fans not being allowed to behave like pompous, spoiled, arrogant, bitchy little children and instead realize that we don't have a right to Sh**, but instesad have an obligation to represent ourselves to the rest of the world in a respectable manner or otherwise hit the bricks.

Do you realize that the Camaro line had been scheduled for shut-down and workers already given notice prior to TF2 and that it was this movie that brought the line back? Families have food on the table and roofs over their heads thanks to this car line and still some of you bitch about bumpers and detailing. You selfish brats! Damn few of you even desereve to breathe on this car let alone complain about it. The fact that our Constitution defends your right to behave so poorly and selfishly sickens me...

I think you speak wisely T.

The *ONLY* thing I don't like about this car is that it has the word "Transformers" all over it.

I think it is amazing that GM made anything at all, really. I don't like it very much, and I don't have any desire to go buy a Camaro, but it's a great looking car and the TF BB homage is nice. I hate it just like I hated the WB Edition Chevy Venture, Harley Davidson F-150, and Eddie Bauer Explorer.....but it is something good for the people who like that stuff. I absolutely think TF 1 and 2 were great for the Camaro though. It really is a great car for the money, and it would have gone the way of the Dodo if it weren't for the recognition it received because of these movies. Now we just need to keep dealerships from marking the damned things up so high that normal people can't buy them. That crap is ridiculous. The dealer in my home town could have sold there first Camaro to a dude who was willing to pay $500 over MSRP......they decided not to sell it. This same dealer is going out of business, and this Camaro is THE ONLY NEW CAR they have on the lot!!!!! The last new car they will ever have and they would not sell it for the window sticker price. Stupid.

Joshua Vallse wrote: 5150 Cruiser,

I find nearly all of your points valid, and I noticed alot of my verbage seemed to be directed to you....I didn't mean it that way, though you are very open which is kind of refreshing here ha ha ha.

All good my friend! I didn't take it that way at all. I enjoy a good debate with calm, and collective thoughts on both sides of the spectrum. Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely up for a fight when needed, but its nice to be able to get some points off and others recognizing those points.

Joshua Vallse wrote:But I just can't see all the disheartening feelings towards this car.

Well, i don't believe its anyone dislikes the car in general. I personally, love the new Camaro and am in in the Market for a new toy. When i heard there was a movie replica going to be made, i was really excited. Even passed up a good deal on a Challenger just cause i wanted to wait and see what the final product was going to be. So for me, its just disappointment. Nothing more, nothing less.

Joshua Vallse wrote: However being GM isn't exactly financially sound, for them to release a particular model bumper just for one specific model of car verses all SS or SS2 models....just isn't sound. I can see why GM wouldn't do that, being it doesn't seem like a sound investment for a company thats in rough waters right now. Perhaps they're seeing how the reception to this car and package is before they expand on further packages and customization parts? .

Yup. I covered this in my last post.

Joshua Vallse wrote:Ah, FJ Cruiser....nice. I own a modest Mazda 3 being it saves me on gas. But I work her hard, even beaten a few Mustangs and Challengers. Both old and new. On these Cali freeways, it really isn't about speed then it is how good you can move that chassis ha ha ha ha Still she has some power behind here, which is why I'm reluctant to own this Camaro...I don't fully trust myself with it .

Cool. I had a modded GTi. Fast little bugger. Upgraded nearly everything you can think of. Had alot of torque. Didn't even need to downshift on the freeway!

T-Macksimus wrote:

What should be Universal Law is fans not being allowed to behave like pompous, spoiled, arrogant, bitchy little children and instead realize that we don't have a right to Sh**, but instesad have an obligation to represent ourselves to the rest of the world in a respectable manner or otherwise hit the bricks.

Do you realize that the Camaro line had been scheduled for shut-down and workers already given notice prior to TF2 and that it was this movie that brought the line back? Families have food on the table and roofs over their heads thanks to this car line and still some of you bitch about bumpers and detailing. You selfish brats! Damn few of you even desereve to breathe on this car let alone complain about it. The fact that our Constitution defends your right to behave so poorly and selfishly sickens me...

First, were bitching about bumpers, wheels, and hood. Get it right!
Second, for the record, i never said that we were entitled to anything. I just felt that we (and the general public) were miss lead into what was going to be released as the BB movie replica car. As i said earlier, I'm in the market for such a vehicle and held off on a few good deals to see what the final outcome of this was going to be. In the grand scheme of things its not a big deal. I could get a regular SS Camaro and be happy with that. But like i said before, its just disappointment. Nothing more. Nothing less.

5150 Cruiser wrote:That, and when it was orignaly anounced that GM would be selling a camaro replica, they used pics of the ROTF Bumble Bee Camaro. The same thats in your Sig. Lets be honest, other than some eblems and stickers, there's nothing that seperates this "Bumbe Bee Replica" apart from other 2010' camaro's on the road. The ROTF Camaro really set itself apart from the others. When you look at that one,you instantly know your look at Bee.

If they would've made it an exact replica on ROTF bee, then the upgrade would have cost much more than 995.

Robinson wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:That, and when it was orignaly anounced that GM would be selling a camaro replica, they used pics of the ROTF Bumble Bee Camaro. The same thats in your Sig. Lets be honest, other than some eblems and stickers, there's nothing that seperates this "Bumbe Bee Replica" apart from other 2010' camaro's on the road. The ROTF Camaro really set itself apart from the others. When you look at that one,you instantly know your look at Bee.

If they would've made it an exact replica on ROTF bee, then the upgrade would have cost much more than 995.

As long as its a resonable mark up, thats fine. At least you would truely have something different than just a few emblems.

Boo friggety hoo, the colore is close enough that no one is gonna even care. Why does any of that even matter? I'm freaking out over here, I want one! That would be awsome to own! Stop harshing on the car and admire it for the piece of art it is.