The Energon Pub

by **Swerve** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:36 pm

Maybe Prime's faceplate covers the mouth/nose area during battle, similar to Bumblebee's face in battle mode.

by **thehmphone** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:38 pm

So it's alright for Optimus to have a mouth in Beast Wars but not alright for him to have one in the movie?

by **DUDEATRICE** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:38 pm

i'm not seeing this movie to satisfy my "gee i wonder how they're going to pull off Prime's mouth" fantasy.

quit crying. that trailer was sick.

News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:40 pm

He has little birdie lips moving?!?!?! That's annoying.

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:40 pm

Dude Screamer sliding through the cars was awsome! Primes mouth is horrible. Why cant they use the audio thats gonna be in the movie. That clip was to raw and compressed. It sounded slowed down. Or Maybe Cullen is doing the voice a litle diffrent so that this prime wont be mixed up with G1 Prime. WHo knows. I just want this damn movie out already.

News Credits: 322 · by **Calenatarion** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:42 pm

That was pretty awesome, and he indeed changed the voice a bit. It's lower now. I never really was against lips on a TF (or Prime overall), but it takes some time to get used to.

Goddamn I want to see the new trailer... (End of April/Start of May)

News Credits: 1 · by **Hairball178** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:43 pm

That guy's sig pic of the stick ninjas kicking the crap outta each other is awesome.

News Credits: 3 · by **XeroSyphon** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:47 pm

That was freaking awesome! I like the plates moving on Prime's mouth, as if he's trying to mimic human lip movements.

News Credits: 3 · by **Kayevcee** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:50 pm

I second the awesomeness of the ninja stickmen!

Hairball, google up the name 'Xiao xiao' to see more stuff like that. There are a few videos and games out there. The creator is a serious John Woo/Matrix nut.

-Nick

News Credits: 665 · by **Skowl** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:52 pm

thehmphone wrote:So it's alright for Optimus to have a mouth in Beast Wars but not alright for him to have one in the movie?

Optimus Primal was a different character. He wasn't the Optimus Prime - so Primal's mouth never bothered me.

However, all the newer Primes-with-mouthes like in Energon and Cybertron always bugged the hell out of me. Contrary to what the movie makers believe, having the faceplate over his mouth doesn't detract from his emotions, it adds to them, since emotions are projected on the character by the audience, given the context. In short, the audience is forced to read much deeper into the character's mind, instead of just looking at his face, which builds a better mental understanding of the character.

For example, does everyone remember how Darth Vader looked in Return of the Jedi when the emperor was shocking Luke? There is a cut where we see Vader's face as he turns from the Emperor to his son, with the lightning shining off his helmet. No facial expression, no frowns, no tears, nothing. Yet the audience gets more emotion in that one faceless expression than they could possibly get if Vader had a mouth.

by **Mxprime** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:55 pm

....................HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was brilliant =D Prime's voice sounds a little deep but it's certainly prime for me. I also like the mouth, it works, but it has me questioning the other bots especially bumblebee......WHY CAN'T THEY HAVE ONE LIKE PRIME!!

by **Swerve** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:57 pm

Who cares about seeing facial emotion with Prime, it isn't like he's going to be up for any Academy Awards.

News Credits: 1 · by **Brakethrough** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:58 pm

Awesome. Eighty days cannot go fast enough!

News Credits: 8 · by **Hans** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:06 pm

They processed Peter Cullen's voice, made it much lower... so that he in fact doesn't sound like the Peter Cullen Optimus Prime at all. What a bunch of arseholes. The fishlips on his chin are hideous.

Other than that, it was a slick trailer. Starscream destroying a bunch of cars was cool. Petty he looks like a monkey with a stick.

I happen to think John Voight is a very good actor.

by **Talon523** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:10 pm

I was all psyched for this movie till I saw prime speak. I am now very worried. I hated the way it came across.

by **XEN0** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:14 pm

that mouth is annoying i liked the transformations but his voice was odd and didn't seem to fit other then that it looks pretty cool. i hope he has his face plate for 70% of the film though. i am starting to like Barricade and Blackout more

by **Ecto** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:17 pm

so what if Prime had amouth,Primal from beast wars had one!!

by **The Collector** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:26 pm

Ok, those are NOT 'fishlips', if you LOOK, you can see a chin BELOW them, its dark, but its there.

News Credits: 1 · by **Heavy B** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:29 pm

oh god i hope this movie dosn't suck...

Like Cyberstrike on Facebook · by **Cyberstrike** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:33 pm

Very cool.

News Credits: 5 · by **DARKAGEIS** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:34 pm

not sure how i feel about the seeming lack of faceplate at the mo, but like many things with this movie im willing to see were it goes and wait (even the extra time i've got to wait being in the uk) to see it in full.

News Credits: 2 · by **osiricon** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:35 pm

That looks cool!! All I hear from most people in here is WWAAAAAAAA! Not G1 WAAAAAAAAA! His voice is deep WWAAAAAAAA! Stop crying.

by **The Shadow** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:36 pm

Ravage XK wrote:Prime has lips!

I think it sounds a little strange because of compresion, Cullen is a bit older and it may be be playing back at the right speed.

Prime's voice is definitely off in the clip but it's not because of Cullen - he still sounds great as Prime. You can hear Cullen as Prime a couple times in this short interview about him and Welker doing the voice overs for the upcoming game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4tNz_3dGBA

News Credits: 38 · by **Methusalen** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:52 pm

That is actually pretty cool... Prime w/ lips will take some getting used to, but life goes on I guess...

News Credits: 1 · by **ZenithF0RTE** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:58 pm

The voice is WAY too deep and altered, but still. So long as I know it's Mr. Cullen behind all that, then it's fine by me.

That said, the lips are still bothering me, but not as much anymore