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Then jar jar sits there smiling, going "all according to plan" before taking his mask off to reveal the true lord of the sith...Mickey Mouse...

ZeroWolf wrote:Then jar jar sits there smiling, going "all according to plan" before taking his mask off to reveal the true lord of the sith...Mickey Mouse...

This thread lead to the most interesting and the coolest Star Wars story ending ever. ever.

I like how Rebels expanded upon how some of the beloved clones from The Clone Wars managed to escape the order 66 protocol, and how at the end of Clone Wars they started to show some troopers becoming aware of what they would do and then killing them before they could act properly on it.

Clone Wars was great. and Darth Maul was such a badass, and then Clone Wars made me love the character in his entirety. He really was a great character that needed developed and Clone Wars and Rebels gave us that

And that is why he was always a Sith Lord!!

At first I groaned about them bringing Maul back, as while I agree he was tragically underused in the prequels (I thought he was going to hang around for more than one film) I saw the fact they were resurrecting him as a clutching at straws, that they didn't have any good ideas. However, I was pleasantly surprised by what they did to him and that they even used him in Rebels...where he was beaten again

I really should watch Clone Wars and Rebels.

The last time I really enjoyed the Star Wars universe was with the two Knights of the Old Republic RPGs -- I was new to WRPGs at the time, and these had fun combat, great dialogue trees (!), and the option to know the power of the Dark Side = AWESOME

At this point I feel obligated to say **** you Disney. The Expanded Universe will always be superior.

In some aspects, most certainly like Mara Jade, Admiral thrawn and han and leia original kids. They has been somethings though that I didn't like but we're all not going to like everything are we?

No we won't. The EU did have its low points, but the over 20 years of world building was so vast, I don't think anything could be universally loved.

It just feels like Disney isn't even trying with the new movies. Rebels and Rouge One were great, and gave me hope, but The Last Jedi, once I took a real look at it, was just terrible.

Thankfully they at least brought Thrawn back into canon. What they’ve done with him has been fantastic so far. Granted they may or may not have killed him off in a dumb way. I never really interacted with the EU but I can’t say I totally enjoy the new post ROTJ direction either. I still enjoy the movies but I hate that we’re just doing the Empire and Rebellion again.

I had fun with the recent Disney movies but to bring back our childhood heroes to witness their deaths felt gratuitous.

I love Rey tho, jus sayin

To be fair to Disney Harrison Ford wanted to die in return of the jedi and lucas was going to kill luke off in ep9 and reality took Carrie from us

Ironhidensh wrote:At this point I feel obligated to say **** you Disney. The Expanded Universe will always be superior.

Even if that includes Chewbacca dying?

Anyways... I must admit I didnt like the Clone Wars, whatever I watched. Seeing Jedi mow down random droids feels so vapid and boring. Droids are the most boring villains you could ever have and clones are super boring too.

Oh and thats aother thing, what is the use of seducing seperatists to join your group when the entire galaxy will surrender itself to you anyways? (and democratically too)

What I did find fun were those Paul Rudish Clone Wars animated segments. And those are still cannon since they end with Anakin and Obi Wan about to go after Greivous.

Ironhidensh wrote:At this point I feel obligated to say **** you Disney. The Expanded Universe will always be superior.

There were definite ups and downs. I am disappointed though. Lots of stuff just chucked in the bin.

william-james88 wrote:What I did find fun were those Paul Rudish Clone Wars animated segments. And those are still cannon since they end with Anakin and Obi Wan about to go after Greivous.

I was happy if they stopped with those! They were pretty dang awesome.

Those Clone Wars shorts where some of the best Star Wars in a long time. Because they were made by people who gave a crap about Star Wars.
I think the crew on the 3D CW cartoon gave a crap too, and I did enjoy that series as well. I haven't done Rebels yet, but I will someday.

And while Disney is a giant mindless automaton, I think the real Sith Lord in all of this, and who we should direct our disdain towards is Kathleen Kennedy. You are gonna loose every time when you put a buisiness person at the head of a creative endeavor/entity.

A buddy of mine sent me this the other day.





Pretty uncanny, no?

And Will, as far as the Jedi VS. Droids, that was all a mandate to apiese the Censors. If you want to sell violence to kids, it has to be against robots.
Especially in cartoons. I agree it was pretty lame. Those Droids were a bunch of doofuses. Where's the challenge in taking out an army of coffee makers?

Damn you Reality!
They had to die sooner or later -- but including them to only kill them off wasn't my fanboy wetdream....

I loved the shorts done by the guy behind samurai jack (so strange to think that he did hotel translyvainia series) only problem is I think they were over written by the new clone wars cartoons

ZeroWolf wrote:I loved the shorts done by the guy behind samurai jack (so strange to think that he did hotel translyvainia series) only problem is I think they were over written by the new clone wars cartoons

Well while its the same director, its not the same artistic director (person in charge of the look and feel). Genndy Tartakovsky relied a lot on Paul Rudish for the style of both that show and Samurai Jack (and other collaborations). Then they both moved on to other very hgh profile endeavours. Genndy Tartakovsky went to do the hotel transylvania stuff but Paul Rudish went to Disney to be the head of their Mickey Mouse output, such as the shorts.

And when you compare both these different projects, you see that its the Mickey Mous stuff which more closely resembles the style of Samurai Jack and Clone Wars (especially the pace of the animation and the art style):

@Will didn't they team back up though for the recent last season of samurai jack though? And they were both behind the star wars shorts I'm sure

bodrock wrote:Damn you Reality!

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They had to die sooner or later -- but including them to only kill them off wasn't my fanboy wetdream....

Well Harrison Ford only did force awakens (he wanted to die off screen) because he got told he could be indy again

ZeroWolf wrote:@Will didn't they team back up though for the recent last season of samurai jack though? And they were both behind the star wars shorts I'm sure

Yes, they were behind the star wars shorts. I was just trying to show that it was really a team of two guys and explain why the style is different between that collaboration and what we see in hotel transylvania.

Also, Paul Rudsh was not involved on a storyboard capacity for the recent last season of samurai jack. I didnt watch it so I dont know how different that made the show.

If he already wanted his character dead, then it was a good trade for Harrison.

bodrock wrote:If he already wanted his character dead, then it was a good trade for Harrison.

I don't know about that, we'll have to see how indy 5 goes it's got a low bar to beat admittedly, they would really have to mess up to beat Kingdom of the crystal skull.

@Willfrom what I've seen it looks the same hence why I thought Paul was on it

Rudish was the only core member of the Jack team that did not return to make the new Jack episodes. Not that he wasn't asked. I think he just had his plate full with Mickey. fun fact: Derek Bachman, the screenplay writer of both Clone Wars and Samurai Jack (including the new Jacks) is currently the screenplay writer for the Mickey shorts.

That whole Tartakovsky crew are all very tight.

And when did Harrison Ford become such a curmudgeony old man? everytime I see him now and he talks about how he hates Han Solo, and Han ruined his career, I want to remind him to leave his multi million dollar Montana mountain paradise property to drive into town and check the balance in his bank account.

Yeah, even with Cate Blanchett, Crystal Skull couldn't measure up to any of the original trio imho

Here's hoping for better with Indy5!

I saw Ready Player One the other day -- I loved the audiobook so I had to see it!

Is LeBuff going to be in Indy 5?

Ruined his career? Harrison, please. >_<

He's had plenty of hits -- as well as Regarding Henry.