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Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:38 pm

Just wondering... For those that have seen the ROTF has anyone noticed that there are 2 sets of Constructicons??? There is the set that brought Megatron back and the set that forms Devastator. Will the real Constructicons please stand up? lol. Again just wonderin if anyone else caught that.

News Credits: 5 · Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:37 am

Yes.... We know. a quick search will reveal several threads on the matter.

Basically the thought is that the constructicons that form devastator are "drones" and make up one mind when combined to make Devastator. The Contructicons that were on the ship and fighting in the desert are their own mind.

News Credits: 7 · Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:59 am

I still call BS on the drone idea.

The better version is that there really are two sets of constructicons, but because one of them died at the start of the movie, one of the sets couldn't merge.

News Credits: 6 · Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:46 pm

Chaoslock wrote:I still call BS on the drone idea.

The better version is that there really are two sets of constructicons, but because one of them died at the start of the movie, one of the sets couldn't merge.

That was my theory, too.

Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:23 am

one set are the own seperate constructicons and the other set can only form devastator. as devastor was too big to find any alt modes on earth. and he only had one purpose which was to just destroy the pyramid.

Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:25 am

SoundWave88 wrote:one set are the own seperate constructicons and the other set can only form devastator. as devastor was too big to find any alt modes on earth. and he only had one purpose which was to just destroy the pyramid.

That's what I think. We never see the the vehicles that form Devastator in robot mode. So I think that Devastator's alt mode is several vehicles, Like Tidal Wave.

News Credits: 7 · Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:42 am

Seriously, we have to FAQ this at the next Hasbro Q&A round in order to close these kind of topics.

News Credits: 1452 · Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:47 am

Chaoslock wrote:Seriously, we have to FAQ this at the next Hasbro Q&A round in order to close these kind of topics.

Already did, actually.

Unicron.com - October Q&A - Question #2

We are still trying to reconcile the Revenge of the Fallen Constructicons. There have been several theories:
a.) There are only one construction vehicle that turns into one component robot and unites with fellow team members to form Devastator. This is the G1-paradigm. For this to be true, we must assume events in the movie are depicted out of order, that Devastator took his tumble off the pyramid, then each component transformed, off-screen back to robot form and rejoined the Autobot vs. Decepticon battle...
b.) There are fictionally, more than one Decepticon with identical construction vehicle alternate modes. Fans should assume that the Mixmaster that go gutted by Jetfire is a different, non-related character to the cement mixer Decepticon component of Devastator.
c.) There are fictionally only 1 construction vehicle that turns into a robot. But, Devastator, like the toy, is one entity comprised of 6 vehicles that don't turn into component robots. One could suppose that Scavenger, a different individual than Demolisher, could be controlling all the rest -non sentient vehicles?
d.) Something else we haven't thought of????
Please provide us an official explanation?!

Hasbro, Transformers Team
The quick answer to your question is one that you provided, Option B. Simply stated, there are a race of Transformers called Combiners that are not limited to one form or method of combining. Needless to say, there are a lot of things that can happen within this and other races of Transformers.

News Credits: 7 · Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:07 am

So, the answer was, if I understood right, that Devastator HAD separate robot forms(or at least minds), but the individual constructicons weren't answered wether or not they could merge, only that they can take the same alt. modes.

(C. would have been the Devastator is only one-minded transformer with 6 vehicle parts, and A was the "movie had a bad cutting", and the fighting constructicons and Devastator were the same)

Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:13 am

If you really pay attention you'll notice the Vehicles who form Devastator just like their toys, do not have individual robot modes. They go straight from vehicle to Devistator while the others who do have individual robot modes are seen to be completly seperate from Devastator.

News Credits: 462 · Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:22 pm

Though, is there any confirmation that Demolishor is a Constructicon? We know Scavenger is, but is Demolishor? There is no "I think he is", there is only "he is" or "he isn't". So which is it?

Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:32 am

As far as I can tell from that response all combiners work like the sphere bots that made Reedman. They're a legion that just mashes themselves together to make a larger bot.

Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:05 am

Sabrblade wrote:Though, is there any confirmation that Demolishor is a Constructicon? We know Scavenger is, but is Demolishor? There is no "I think he is", there is only "he is" or "he isn't". So which is it?

As far as I can tell there is no Demolishor or Scavenger. There is only Devistator and "Wheelbot" which Wheelbot can't seem to make up his mind what the hell his name is.

The huge guy who forms into Devistator is marked on the toy box as "Scavenger" but he doesn't have a robot mode, not in the movie and not as a toy so I fail to see how a vehicle who simply forms Devistator even deserves a name. That would be like nameing the two halfs of Energon Omega Supreme's body when he's in his 2 seperated vehicle modes.

The Wheelbot as he's named in the credits of the movie who looks like the same vehicle as Scavenger I guess is marked as Demolishor on toy packageing. This guy actully deserves a name, a SINGLE name, and he has 3.

The Constructicons seem to be one huge badly done mistake. Maybe there was only ment to be one set of them and it was just bad editing. Whatever the case, as it stands the way I see it...

Devistator is just a large transformer who plits into multiple vehicle modes rather than a gestalt formed by other smaller robots thus his parts do not have names.

Rampage is the jack hammer, whip weilding robot, and not part of Devistator.

Mixmaster is the tripple changer who has a cannon mode, was killed by Jetfire, and does not form Devistator's head.

Long Haul is the robot who looks like he stole Brawl's head from the first movie and does not form part of Devistator.

Scrapper is a Front Load Shovel and not the Front Load Shovel that form's Devistator's right arm.

Overload and Hightower appear to have not exsisted at all other than to needlessly name parts of Devistator's body who don't even transform into individual robot modes.

And last but not least, The guy killed at the begining of the movie, just because he is a Construction vehicle and therefore a Constructicon, his name should be Scavenger not Demolishor and definatly not Wheelbot.

Please not everything in the red text is not ment to be statements of fact but are mearly my opinions stated in a way that makes the most sence to me as what the facts MIGHT be sence the actual facts as they stand don't make any sence at all.

Or the short version...

The red is me trying to make sence out of the senceless. :lol:

News Credits: 462 · Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:24 am

What about the Legends Class Devastator toy that has Robot Modes for each of its components?

Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:42 am

Sabrblade wrote:What about the Legends Class Devastator toy that has Robot Modes for each of its components?

Would be great if they actully appeared that way in the movie.

I started a new topic and went into greater detail about this and other characters there. Mainly started the new topic as not to go off subject here by adding in my thoughts regarding other equilly confusing character choices such as Grindor.