The Energon Pub

All right, i've read that some people want Unicron, some others want Dinobots, some other want Predacons... well, it's your turn to add ideas for the next movie.

-I'd like less military porn and less explosions.
-I'd love to see the platonic love relationship between Powerglide and Astoria Carlton-Ritz in movie format. That worked fine in Appleseed, why can't that work here ? Besides we'd have a plot device that could propel a whole movie ahead - Like bumblebee protecting Sam, but better.

Your ideas now.

I want to see more character development. I want to see more Ironhide. Ironhide and Prime have always been my favorites. Although I dont see how they will write a decent plot for the third movie. Now dont get me wrong I know theres a crap load of stuff they could put in the plot, just not anything in my opinion that would go with what Bay and his writters have been doing so far.

Now I can definately tell you I dont want to see Unicron or any planet sized bots. I know this is kinda an oxymoron but I want a more realistic TF movie lol. I hope that makes sense.

Please please NO UNICRON - that would wreck it IMO

I'd like to see more of the Autobots

A plot where the Transfomers are public knowledge would be good, with a bad corrupt corporation as allies to the Decepticons etc

That would be cool

A crap ton of named Decepticons.
I want the Autobots to be so out-numbered, it won't be funny.
I also want them to lose, or at least have there be a very bittersweet ending.

Actually i expect Decepticons to win in ROTF, and Autobots strike back in the 3rd installment.
ROTF should be dark and decepticons win. Sigh, thats not the case.

First off, No Unicron. Second, Only 3 Dinobots Grimlock, Slag & Snarl. Third let this be the last film in the series, I wanted the Transformers film series to be a trilogy I dont want to see a saga.

Also I dont think we will ever get round to character development (probably in the comics) but I do think we need to see probably Ultra Magnus as Prime's lieutenent or something.

One more thing, the battle to end all battles in the third film.

Sabrblade wrote:

vectorA3 wrote:I better be in the next movie goddangit!!!! My royalties from the G1 cartoon are dwindling!!

I don't think Megs and Prime are brothers b/c Megs would've killed and overtaken the Fallen a long time ago if that were the case, being such close relation to a Prime. I don't know -it's all so confusing. I wonder how the quints and Unicron will fit into all of this. They may bypass the quints story entirely and just go with the Primus/comic universe stuff. (Which i'm not read up on). If a phenomenal screenplay (i mean better than TF1 & 2, on par with Terminator 2, BB or TDK, Ironman, Spiderman2) can be written and this is combined with great action sequences, the next movie could be mindblowing. It could be Bay's craftiest, smartest movie to date --then he can silence all the critics. Wouldn't that be great?

Have you already said something about "bypassing the quints" before? Cuz I'm reading your post and getting weird feeling of deja vu.

maybe a long time ago, but i really don't remember. (pls excuse my age & being inside this damn matrix!)

tbh i wouldent mind if TF3 was a half of a story followed by a 4, i really miss good old cliff hangers,

i reckon they should have there story which leads up to, lets say imprisoment of the autobots and the capture of earth by the decepticons,

final scenes

- megatron on a throne of some sort while soundwave and shockwave stand at his side, with the rest of the decpticons mastering the enslaved humans.

- a shadowed transformer recieves a transmission which is from optimus prime calling for help. last line ''... help us ... my old friend.''

then it continues in TF4

- Reveal of the mysterious shadowed transformer.

- the autobots inevitably win but with a huge sacrafice.

Not expecting that, but i really wouldent mind it

I want it to continue on earth, Have the autobots outnumbered and i want wheel jack in and then wheel jack starts building atleast 2 dino bots grim lock and or sledge and then they bring them out in the city where decepticons are fighting and have the 2 dinobots go ape sht on them

Also I want to know from everyone else's opinion, should the movie dinobots combine?

I'd like a battle between Transformers in the rain. I just have this feeling it would look awesome.

I'd like to see some serious human blood. If they can get away with all of the language and sexuality for this PG-13 film, and I know I've seen some graphic material on TV programs, such as Lost and Heroes, why can't they have some Decepticons seriously messing people up?

Maybe they can go into detail on how the Transformers bodies actually work. Yeah, they're robots with souls it seems, but ROTF hinted that there is more than just spark plugs and wires to these guys with the way The Fallen's head was gruesomely de-faced, or how Ravage was skinned. Maybe go more into stats. Like how tall and heavy each of the Autobots are. They mentioned how Optimus Prime was about 10 tons. How tall is he? Like 29 feet?

What about a scene where one of the Autobots is fighting, say Bumblebee, and he get's knocked so bad, that his transforming mechanism is screwed up, and he can't imitate an Earth vehicle. We saw all the other Autobot's protoforms, but not Bumblebee's!

I like the idea of some humans joining the Decepticons. Maybe one of the current human heroes could become a backstabber.

Maybe they can show dream sequences of the Autobots remembering what their life was like back on Cybertron before any of the wars started. It was peaceful at one time, right?

GetterDragun wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

GetterDragun wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

GetterDragun wrote:Ok, some things I'd like to discuss.

Optimus basically stated he is the Fallens brother, but didn't all the brothers freeze themselves around the Matrix? What does this mean, does this mean that Prime originated from the same source as the fallen?

Does it mean that non-primes originate from a different source?

Then in TF1 Optimus said Megatron was his Brother, does that mean Megatron is a Prime as well?

Next thing is is that they showed protoforms and stated they need Energon to keep them going. I' m sure Prime would agree that keeping his own kind going is important. Should he address this in TF3?

What is creating these protoforms?

I think the combo of the origination of Optimus, his relation to the fallen and Megatron, could be an intro to a character like Unicron.

Optimus never said he was related to The Fallen, brother or otherwise. The other characters like Jetfire said he was a decendant of the 7 original Dynasty of Primes.

Yes he did, when he is fighting the fallen Prime says something like "They were my brothers too".

Nope.

First, when Sam had that vision, the Primes referred to Optimus as their "last descendant". A descendant is not a brother.

Also, the line your referring to goes like this:

The Fallen says to Optimus, "Die like your brother!" referring to how Megatron died in the first film. And then Optimus refers his ancestor Primes by saying, "They were your brothers too!"

The Fallen was pointing out how Optimus fought his brother Megatron and wound up having Megatron killed in that battle. But Optimus puts that argument back on him by pointing how how The Fallen fought against his brothers and they wound up dying in that battle as well.

I just now got back from seeing the movie again.

That wouldn't make sense to have one referencing something the other ones not, and it wouldn't make sense to reference megatron because obviously it wouldn't be that much of a threat since Megatron was standing right there. When Prime says "They were your brothers too" it is referencing that Prime's brothers were the Fallen's brothers. I mean, the sentence is pretty straight forward, they were the fallen's brothers as well as Prime's brothers.

I agree with you all over

Iamwarhorse wrote:I'd like a battle between Transformers in the rain. I just have this feeling it would look awesome.

I'd like to see some serious human blood. If they can get away with all of the language and sexuality for this PG-13 film, and I know I've seen some graphic material on TV programs, such as Lost and Heroes, why can't they have some Decepticons seriously messing people up?

Maybe they can go into detail on how the Transformers bodies actually work. Yeah, they're robots with souls it seems, but ROTF hinted that there is more than just spark plugs and wires to these guys with the way The Fallen's head was gruesomely de-faced, or how Ravage was skinned. Maybe go more into stats. Like how tall and heavy each of the Autobots are. They mentioned how Optimus Prime was about 10 tons. How tall is he? Like 29 feet?

What about a scene where one of the Autobots is fighting, say Bumblebee, and he get's knocked so bad, that his transforming mechanism is screwed up, and he can't imitate an Earth vehicle. We saw all the other Autobot's protoforms, but not Bumblebee's!

I like the idea of some humans joining the Decepticons. Maybe one of the current human heroes could become a backstabber.

Maybe they can show dream sequences of the Autobots remembering what their life was like back on Cybertron before any of the wars started. It was peaceful at one time, right?

I agree -more carnage should've been shown. Decepticons wasting people. That would bring a greater sense of urgency to the film. This is serious business. No f'ing around. Probably the main reason they didn't was b/c Bay pussed out and didn't want to make the military look bad. When actually it would make the film ultrarealistic. That's what he's goin for with all of the explosions and practical effects -isn't he?? P***y.

Agree with everything else u mentioned as well. Prime is 40' tall I believe.