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Shadowman wrote:Once you realize Tronus only thinks he's so well informed, everything just becomes a lot clearer.
Shadowman wrote:Once you realize Tronus only thinks he's so well informed, everything just becomes a lot clearer.
Tronus_Rex wrote:Shadowman wrote:Once you realize Tronus only thinks he's so well informed, everything just becomes a lot clearer.
I've cited, backed up my info, time for you to do the same, Shadowman. No more emotional crap-I've given myself over to-too much anger as well. I apologize for that.
I haven't come on here to talk-down to anyone. When I'm angry it's obvious. HOWEVER, when I'm just giving info and citing it, I'm accused of acting dismissive or like an "enlightened" asshole? Calm down Shad'. I'm not flinging mud. I mean no belittlement towards anyone. If you and others are interpreting it as such, then I apologize again, because it's genuinely not intended.
Guys, you've got to learn how to hold a discussion without resulting to name calling, mud flinging, childish emotional outbursts, and you also MUST cite what you say. Explain why you disagree, using said citation.
I say this as a man, I say this as a friend, and in true sincerity. There is no need to be offended by my call for ration and sobriety.
I also say this also not just as an informed individual, but as an educated one. In school for my bachelors, which was at a conservative school run by a Republican, they taught how the US media is modeled on Nazi Germany. My more liberal school, for my masters, said the same.
They also taught on corporate history and motivations.
I don't want any of you to put up walls, instead I want you to go read what I'm referring to. Get educated. Form your own opinion. If you have your own based on such things, PLEASE, cite those sources for my benefit as well as anyone who's following this thread. I'm not being rude or dismissive by asking you for this, so don't take it as such.
Blast Cannon wrote:Tronus_Rex wrote:Rupert Murdoch is a Saudi prince?
Did I say Rupert Murdoch? No, I'm not talking about Murdoch. He founded Fox News but he's no longer in charge. Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, however is. Talal owns a media conglomerate that controls Fox News.
The "go fact yourself" is meant to be a little mean but not a full F you. It's a wordplay meant to grab your attention. Don't take it as a full...er, rude, comment.![]()
Just so you know, "fact yourself" is used by many people in a positive way, but is also used like I just did-haha! Don't take it the wrong way.
Remember also, I'm trying to be positive, but hearing dismissals of "crazy", or "made-up/BS" incenses me. It smacks of apathy, and a few other things. My ability to care, doesn't come from fear nor delusion, but because I'm aware. An educated consumer is what I am, at the very least.
Sorry but you're a complete loon.![]()
The best part is that you post from a deluded 'enlightened' perspective that is entirely presumptious. You think that everybody else must be ignorant or stupid for not giving a flying yellow monkey **** about what you're jabbering on about, when in reality I just don't care because not one part of what you and your conspiracy theorist buddies are claiming will take place.
You're barking up the wrong tree. Take to the streets.
Tronus_Rex wrote:Shadowman wrote:Once you realize Tronus only thinks he's so well informed, everything just becomes a lot clearer.
I've cited, backed up my info, time for you to do the same, Shadowman.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Yeah, that's my take on the subject.
Shadowman wrote:Tronus_Rex wrote:Shadowman wrote:Once you realize Tronus only thinks he's so well informed, everything just becomes a lot clearer.
I've cited, backed up my info, time for you to do the same, Shadowman.
No you haven't. You have not posted one single link saying all this bad crap's going to absolutely, 100% going to happen. It's all conjecture, speculation, and a bunch of fatalistic stuff, sandwiched between you throwing fits that no one is taking you and your tinfoil hats seriously.
Shadowman wrote:Tronus_Rex wrote:Shadowman wrote:Once you realize Tronus only thinks he's so well informed, everything just becomes a lot clearer.
I've cited, backed up my info, time for you to do the same, Shadowman.
No you haven't. You have not posted one single link saying all this bad crap's going to absolutely, 100% going to happen. It's all conjecture, speculation, and a bunch of fatalistic stuff, sandwiched between you throwing fits that no one is taking you and your tinfoil hats seriously.
njb902 wrote:Shadowman wrote:Tronus_Rex wrote:Shadowman wrote:Once you realize Tronus only thinks he's so well informed, everything just becomes a lot clearer.
I've cited, backed up my info, time for you to do the same, Shadowman.
No you haven't. You have not posted one single link saying all this bad crap's going to absolutely, 100% going to happen. It's all conjecture, speculation, and a bunch of fatalistic stuff, sandwiched between you throwing fits that no one is taking you and your tinfoil hats seriously.
I'd also like to add that while I haven't technically cited anything, everything I've talked about is public record. All you have to do is look it up,
Tronus_Rex wrote:I'm pretty sure you're sane and rational.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
njb902 wrote:Like you telling me to go **** myself, even though I hadn't insulted you? Yep you sure have shown me about how grown up you are.
Tronus_Rex wrote:njb902 wrote:Like you telling me to go **** myself, even though I hadn't insulted you? Yep you sure have shown me about how grown up you are.
Sigh, I'm genuinely sorry you took that wrong. I said "fact", intending it to be both teasing and playful. It's understandable that you took it wrong.
Have you never seen "Vsauce" or "TedTalks", and/or the many others who playfully say "get fact", or "fact yourself"?
Good heavens njb', I was playing. Why is everyone online so damn serious? I didn't say F****. I said "fact".
Still, given how angry people seemed to be getting, I should not have used it in the context I did. I again apologize, it was poorly thought.
You're just as..."juvinile", By the way. Using smart/dismissive comments about "Christian-nuts" and former Muslims, (new word now), & crackpot theories? I didn't hear it from any of these types, (not originally at least), I heard it from yahoo news, years ago, then the free press, cnn-once upon a time, and even al jazeera!
I didn't want this to go down this rabbit hole. A troll called A.O.S. (whose a full blown atheist, TYI), a loon, and I tried explaining why AOS was so pessimistic and "passionate". What I got in reply was, "you're crazy" & "you're making everything up". You think I'm just going to take that with smiles and unicorn farts? I didn't start replying in anger, until others began that trend of "fits".
I'm sorry you've been offended. But I have a justified reason to have been incensed myself, and you haven't exactly been too friendly either njb'. You've had your own attitude, and been just as dismissive. Don't act like you're above being a child or immature. Conflict happens njb', people can be assholes. You and I both.
Can we agree to let this pass? For the original post, most agreed. Then it morphed into something else. I'm partly to blame. I made a few comments that I didn't think would become other rabbit wholes.
I'm also very tired, and will be going to bed soon. I will check this thread one more time then turn in.
Shadowman wrote:Tronus_Rex wrote:I'm pretty sure you're sane and rational.
Good call. Too bad I can't say the same about you. It's why I haven't bothered to try and debate, instead only taking choice opportunities to snark. In my mental palace, you're forever labeled "tinfoil hat wearing loon" and all you've done is prove that I wasn't wrong in doing so.
njb902 wrote:Tronus_Rex wrote:njb902 wrote:Like you telling me to go **** myself, even though I hadn't insulted you? Yep you sure have shown me about how grown up you are.
Sigh, I'm genuinely sorry you took that wrong. I said "fact", intending it to be both teasing and playful. It's understandable that you took it wrong.
Have you never seen "Vsauce" or "TedTalks", and/or the many others who playfully say "get fact", or "fact yourself"?
Good heavens njb', I was playing. Why is everyone online so damn serious? I didn't say F****. I said "fact".
Still, given how angry people seemed to be getting, I should not have used it in the context I did. I again apologize, it was poorly thought.
You're just as..."juvinile", By the way. Using smart/dismissive comments about "Christian-nuts" and former Muslims, (new word now), & crackpot theories? I didn't hear it from any of these types, (not originally at least), I heard it from yahoo news, years ago, then the free press, cnn-once upon a time, and even al jazeera!
I didn't want this to go down this rabbit hole. A troll called A.O.S. (whose a full blown atheist, TYI), a loon, and I tried explaining why AOS was so pessimistic and "passionate". What I got in reply was, "you're crazy" & "you're making everything up". You think I'm just going to take that with smiles and unicorn farts? I didn't start replying in anger, until others began that trend of "fits".
I'm sorry you've been offended. But I have a justified reason to have been incensed myself, and you haven't exactly been too friendly either njb'. You've had your own attitude, and been just as dismissive. Don't act like you're above being a child or immature. Conflict happens njb', people can be assholes. You and I both.
Can we agree to let this pass? For the original post, most agreed. Then it morphed into something else. I'm partly to blame. I made a few comments that I didn't think would become other rabbit wholes.
I'm also very tired, and will be going to bed soon. I will check this thread one more time then turn in.
I never said Christian nut or a Muslim nut, I said he was a fundamentalist of both faiths at different points in his life. So don't put words in my mouth please. Though I think crackpots is a good fit for them, especially him. He admits(there is some doubt if he's telling the truth) to bombing a bank.
As for acting juvenile. Yes I do, what's your point.
Tronus_Rex wrote:njb902 wrote:Tronus_Rex wrote:njb902 wrote:Like you telling me to go **** myself, even though I hadn't insulted you? Yep you sure have shown me about how grown up you are.
Sigh, I'm genuinely sorry you took that wrong. I said "fact", intending it to be both teasing and playful. It's understandable that you took it wrong.
Have you never seen "Vsauce" or "TedTalks", and/or the many others who playfully say "get fact", or "fact yourself"?
Good heavens njb', I was playing. Why is everyone online so damn serious? I didn't say F****. I said "fact".
Still, given how angry people seemed to be getting, I should not have used it in the context I did. I again apologize, it was poorly thought.
You're just as..."juvinile", By the way. Using smart/dismissive comments about "Christian-nuts" and former Muslims, (new word now), & crackpot theories? I didn't hear it from any of these types, (not originally at least), I heard it from yahoo news, years ago, then the free press, cnn-once upon a time, and even al jazeera!
I didn't want this to go down this rabbit hole. A troll called A.O.S. (whose a full blown atheist, TYI), a loon, and I tried explaining why AOS was so pessimistic and "passionate". What I got in reply was, "you're crazy" & "you're making everything up". You think I'm just going to take that with smiles and unicorn farts? I didn't start replying in anger, until others began that trend of "fits".
I'm sorry you've been offended. But I have a justified reason to have been incensed myself, and you haven't exactly been too friendly either njb'. You've had your own attitude, and been just as dismissive. Don't act like you're above being a child or immature. Conflict happens njb', people can be assholes. You and I both.
Can we agree to let this pass? For the original post, most agreed. Then it morphed into something else. I'm partly to blame. I made a few comments that I didn't think would become other rabbit wholes.
I'm also very tired, and will be going to bed soon. I will check this thread one more time then turn in.
I never said Christian nut or a Muslim nut, I said he was a fundamentalist of both faiths at different points in his life. So don't put words in my mouth please. Though I think crackpots is a good fit for them, especially him. He admits(there is some doubt if he's telling the truth) to bombing a bank.
As for acting juvenile. Yes I do, what's your point.
My point is you called me that tooI was simply calling you on it as well.
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Just wanted to clear the air and admit we were both pricks to each other.
I hope we're cool with each other now.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
njb902 wrote:So you're taking for granted something a former "terrorist" and Christian fundamentalist(former Muslim fundamentalist) has to say? Never mind that the 2005 riots themselves were about poverty not Islam. So is it any wonder that they changed their banner headline?
njb902 wrote:You're taking for granted something a crackpot conspiracy theorists who believes that the USSR had control over the foreign policy decisions made by FDR, Truman, and Eisenhower says?
Tronus_Rex wrote:The pearls of facts, wisdom, history, and logic I’ve just presented on this thread, is not for the three burrows. It’s for anyone who is willing to think, be fair, and hear why you shouldn't give in to fear.
I’m not at all old. But I’m at least past the stage of foolish youth, especially the arrogant 20’s. I mentioned Jim Sterling commenting on the internet hostility. Many others have talked about this as well. I too have been guilty of this. However, I will admit it. If you feel the negativity too, try to not reply in anger.
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Shadowman, or Shady-boy, and I had an argument in the Star Wars thread. He seemed to take George Lucas’s altered, and revised facts at face value. Lucas is well documented for lying, changing his mind, being inconsistent, and altogether full of ****. There’s an entire generation of both fans, critics, and fellow filmmakers calling “bullshit” on Lucas.
Shady’ takes everything Lucas says as gospel. Why? Because he is a “fanboy”, especially of the prequels.
Shady, as a fanboy, reacted with hostility to my criticism of Lucas’s lightsaber fetish, which was a distraction.
Flipping lightsaber wielding Yoda?
In Ep.VI, the emperor laughed at lightsabers like they were toys. He was above using them. Yoda clearly had the same attitude and “mastery” in Ep.V Empire Stikes Back. Lucas altered him in to a ridiculous flipping bit of CGI.
My laser, electro-laser mistake, is hardly a point to question anyone’s sanity. It instead shows how combative njb’ and Shady, have been.
I did check my facts. I got fact, and then went to go fact myself
In “Science Fiction and Real Science Facts”, in the section “Directed Energy Weapons”, It stated that Einstein thought of the first laser, and how Tesla was it’s true father, with DEW’s.
Before the laser was the maser. The electro-laser, was the 1st thought for to solution to weaponization, by Einstein himself. I read it backwards. Then mentioned it here without double checking.
Still Shady is being far too hostile to care. The electro-laser is the only direct energy weapon that can take advantage of "blooming". Blooming is normally bad for a laser, instead it's the electrolaser's strength.
We know today that, an electro-laser, will likely never be more than an equivalent of a stun gun. Popular Science has addressed this debate a few times. The lethality and plasma question is still something to experiment regarding "blooming".
Besides the maser and laser, there’s the phaser, PEP, the “lightning gun” (usually pure sci-fi, but legit scientists have said it possible). Another is microwave emitters/weapons, a Tesla favorite.
Tesla, by the way, was a legit “mad scientist”, his contributions are arguably greater than any other genius in the 20th century, eith 700 patents. Including “death-rays”, lasers, electro-lasers, phasers, ETC.
http://www.cracked.com/funny-284-nikola-tesla/
Back to Star Wars, if anyone is interested, try looking up “Mr. Plinkett” and his Star Wars reviews at Red Letter Media. Also “The People Vs George Lucas”, available on streaming and download. Ever seen the South Park episodes on Lucas and Spielberg? That’s just a tiny piece of it.
There’s also a lot of other material from "Biography" (Bio), other documentaries on Lucas’s influence. Books about George inspiration. All this, before the new trilogy. You will see that the young Lucas was a different man.
njb902 wrote:Oh goody more words in my mouth.
njb902 wrote:It's not my fault you don't know what the word means, or that it isn't necessarily a negative. Also the man admits to being a terrorist. I don't get your objection to the label.
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