The Energon Pub

Dead Metal wrote:

GrimSqueaker wrote:

Sonray wrote:Sometimes Grim, not everyone has the luxury of an education that can get them into college for art classses. Not everyone can be in a crowed of people and be told what to do with having a serious anxiety attack.

I just dont have much faith in the whole teaching system, since its never done me any good.

That more than anything was basically what i was trying to say.

I mean if you are poor, cant afford classes, dropped out of school for personal reasons, cant get into college, then doing a thing like taking art classes is a daunting task.

Plus, not everyone learns in the same way. Some people learn better just by making mistakes and fixing them on their own, others need a guiding light, thats why i think that tuition isnt ALWAYS the be all end all answer to everything.


Glad you like the pic DeadMetal! BTW i started building the Masterpiece Trailer today, its gonna look awesome if i can pull it off! I made it an inch longer than your measurements for realism sake, i thought the normal MP trailer looked too stumpy.

I totally understand that there ae different methods of learning, and i am not poohpoohing any particular method-i just think that you can should stop learning and that one should take advantage of every available source of inspiration and enlightenment-you can hardly argue that anything that makes u better is a bad thing? So one should be open to all experiences essentially-and you will learn different things differently at different times.

Oh and my advice for deadmetal would still be to go to lifedrawing classes-which doesnt mean being lectured by a know it all, generally these experiences are run primarily to allow those with an intrest in art to take advantage of a live nude model, and the experince of drawing in a group. These classes are normally run cheaply or even for free by most colleges at night, if u go to your nearest college, poke around and ask politely u will find the most affordable option, which suits your time frame.

i personal dont do life drawing in my own college, when i have athursday night free i pop down the road to a different college, it is a fiver at the door and you can stay as long as you like-it is a great way to unwind!

Well ther is a art college near me it's only a 3 hour jurny , I would have to move into Nürnberg, but the rent and the lessons are so expensif, that in order to live ther and take classes I'de have to get a fulltime job. And to be able to eat something I'de have to get a night job to, meaning I woulden't be able to go to classes.

GrimSqueaker wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

GrimSqueaker wrote:

Sonray wrote:Sometimes Grim, not everyone has the luxury of an education that can get them into college for art classses. Not everyone can be in a crowed of people and be told what to do with having a serious anxiety attack.

I just dont have much faith in the whole teaching system, since its never done me any good.

That more than anything was basically what i was trying to say.

I mean if you are poor, cant afford classes, dropped out of school for personal reasons, cant get into college, then doing a thing like taking art classes is a daunting task.

Plus, not everyone learns in the same way. Some people learn better just by making mistakes and fixing them on their own, others need a guiding light, thats why i think that tuition isnt ALWAYS the be all end all answer to everything.


Glad you like the pic DeadMetal! BTW i started building the Masterpiece Trailer today, its gonna look awesome if i can pull it off! I made it an inch longer than your measurements for realism sake, i thought the normal MP trailer looked too stumpy.

I totally understand that there ae different methods of learning, and i am not poohpoohing any particular method-i just think that you can should stop learning and that one should take advantage of every available source of inspiration and enlightenment-you can hardly argue that anything that makes u better is a bad thing? So one should be open to all experiences essentially-and you will learn different things differently at different times.

Oh and my advice for deadmetal would still be to go to lifedrawing classes-which doesnt mean being lectured by a know it all, generally these experiences are run primarily to allow those with an intrest in art to take advantage of a live nude model, and the experince of drawing in a group. These classes are normally run cheaply or even for free by most colleges at night, if u go to your nearest college, poke around and ask politely u will find the most affordable option, which suits your time frame.

i personal dont do life drawing in my own college, when i have athursday night free i pop down the road to a different college, it is a fiver at the door and you can stay as long as you like-it is a great way to unwind!

Well ther is a art college near me it's only a 3 hour jurny , I would have to move into Nürnberg, but the rent and the lessons are so expensif, that in order to live ther and take classes I'de have to get a fulltime job. And to be able to eat something I'de have to get a night job to, meaning I woulden't be able to go to classes.

Dude-that sucks! where do u live thats 3 hours away from a college? Those things are like weeds over here you cant walk outside without bumping into one!

Dead Metal wrote:

GrimSqueaker wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

GrimSqueaker wrote:

Sonray wrote:Sometimes Grim, not everyone has the luxury of an education that can get them into college for art classses. Not everyone can be in a crowed of people and be told what to do with having a serious anxiety attack.

I just dont have much faith in the whole teaching system, since its never done me any good.

That more than anything was basically what i was trying to say.

I mean if you are poor, cant afford classes, dropped out of school for personal reasons, cant get into college, then doing a thing like taking art classes is a daunting task.

Plus, not everyone learns in the same way. Some people learn better just by making mistakes and fixing them on their own, others need a guiding light, thats why i think that tuition isnt ALWAYS the be all end all answer to everything.


Glad you like the pic DeadMetal! BTW i started building the Masterpiece Trailer today, its gonna look awesome if i can pull it off! I made it an inch longer than your measurements for realism sake, i thought the normal MP trailer looked too stumpy.

I totally understand that there ae different methods of learning, and i am not poohpoohing any particular method-i just think that you can should stop learning and that one should take advantage of every available source of inspiration and enlightenment-you can hardly argue that anything that makes u better is a bad thing? So one should be open to all experiences essentially-and you will learn different things differently at different times.

Oh and my advice for deadmetal would still be to go to lifedrawing classes-which doesnt mean being lectured by a know it all, generally these experiences are run primarily to allow those with an intrest in art to take advantage of a live nude model, and the experince of drawing in a group. These classes are normally run cheaply or even for free by most colleges at night, if u go to your nearest college, poke around and ask politely u will find the most affordable option, which suits your time frame.

i personal dont do life drawing in my own college, when i have athursday night free i pop down the road to a different college, it is a fiver at the door and you can stay as long as you like-it is a great way to unwind!

Well ther is a art college near me it's only a 3 hour jurny , I would have to move into Nürnberg, but the rent and the lessons are so expensif, that in order to live ther and take classes I'de have to get a fulltime job. And to be able to eat something I'de have to get a night job to, meaning I woulden't be able to go to classes.

Dude-that sucks! where do u live thats 3 hours away from a college? Those things are like weeds over here you cant walk outside without bumping into one!

In a crappy little vilage coled Strullendorf, in the nerest town you can study anyting from math to ****, but not art.
You lucky man.

fire-heart123 wrote:Nice drawing! I love it! Keep up the good work!