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Devastator or "Devastator"?

Postby Swipestreaker » Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:21 pm

Will they have the Constructicons in the next movie?
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Postby autobot commander » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:36 pm

maybe
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Postby Nightracer GT » Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:31 am

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You joined right after the closing of the big debate on that very topic.


The arguements for against were pretty weak, I'd say. "The name was already used." "Construction vehicles are boring, whereas military vehicles blow **** up." "Six is too many." "Bonecrusher's dead."


But why can't they just have them form a big unnamed robot?

Why can't there be one robot with a personality who splits off into a bunch of different vehicles?

Why can't they just call it a different name?

Construction vehicles are huge and can cause lots of damage. Ore trucks and giant earth movers are much more exicting in terms of destruction than another tank or jet.

Why do there have to be six? Because that's cartoon canon?

Why do they have to have all the characters in the team? Why can't they just have some, or even mix and match? Some construction, some military. Some military, some sports cars. It's all robots in the end. Why maintain an alt mode motif that has no bearing on the giant robot itself?


As you can see, it's very easy and doable to have the Constructicons in the movie. Doesn't mean they will, but they easily could.
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Postby Abilor » Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:17 pm

I think even more broadly, people take Devastator to mean a Gestalt-o-bot in general. People want to see something form voltr- I mean Devastator, but there's Superion, Bruticus, etc. It's the gestalt theme in general that's appealing, and Devastator was just first.

My bet is you will some form of the gestalt transformation. It's ambitious, it's appealing to fanboys and general audiences alike... perfect sequel fodder, "bigger and better" in every way.

I just can't wait for my KO devastator to arrive from China...
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Postby Insurgent » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:25 pm

I give you the kind of damage a construction vehicle could do. And this is just one. Imagine what a whole team could do.

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Postby Jazz Reborn » Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:37 pm

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Dark Zarak wrote:You joined right after the closing of the big debate on that very topic.


The arguements for against were pretty weak, I'd say. "The name was already used." "Construction vehicles are boring, whereas military vehicles blow **** up." "Six is too many." "Bonecrusher's dead."


But why can't they just have them form a big unnamed robot?

Why can't there be one robot with a personality who splits off into a bunch of different vehicles?

Why can't they just call it a different name?

Construction vehicles are huge and can cause lots of damage. Ore trucks and giant earth movers are much more exicting in terms of destruction than another tank or jet.

Why do there have to be six? Because that's cartoon canon?

Why do they have to have all the characters in the team? Why can't they just have some, or even mix and match? Some construction, some military. Some military, some sports cars. It's all robots in the end. Why maintain an alt mode motif that has no bearing on the giant robot itself?


As you can see, it's very easy and doable to have the Constructicons in the movie. Doesn't mean they will, but they easily could.

exsactly what i thought.
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Postby Starscream's Brigade » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:59 am

Maybe I'm biased :P but I think Bruticus would be perfect. They already have Brawl, then they can use Blackout for Whirlwind and then introduce the rest. If I remember correctly, Brawl and Blackout are killed in the movie so the storyline can be they were repaired and given this new combining feature in the process ;)^
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Postby Satomiblood » Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:50 pm

Starscream's Brigade wrote:Maybe I'm biased :P but I think Bruticus would be perfect. They already have Brawl, then they can use Blackout for Whirlwind and then introduce the rest. If I remember correctly, Brawl and Blackout are killed in the movie so the storyline can be they were repaired and given this new combining feature in the process ;)^


There's no way this can happen.
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Postby Mighty Scorponok » Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:01 pm

technicality..........But if Cons would have a Combiner, then it automaticly put Autobots on disadvantage, then they would have to have a Gestalt on their own, and the dilema starts again. Who would be that gestalt?.And then Bay woul be accussed of copying the Episodes, which he doesnt want to be accused of.
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Postby Insurgent » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:40 pm

That could be the big, grand finale epic fight. The bots without any combiners of their own, must take down the ultimate con weapon. A combiner. Rather than have two giants go at it, I would prefer just to have the one combiner on screen, with the smaller bots running around, trying to take him down.
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Postby doomboy536 » Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:26 pm

Insurgent wrote:That could be the big, grand finale epic fight. The bots without any combiners of their own, must take down the ultimate con weapon. A combiner. Rather than have two giants go at it, I would prefer just to have the one combiner on screen, with the smaller bots running around, trying to take him down.


That sounds like it would be better tbh
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Postby Starscream's Brigade » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:28 pm

Satomiblood wrote:There's no way this can happen.


:-s :sad:
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Postby Abilor » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:31 pm

Insurgent wrote:That could be the big, grand finale epic fight. The bots without any combiners of their own, must take down the ultimate con weapon. A combiner. Rather than have two giants go at it, I would prefer just to have the one combiner on screen, with the smaller bots running around, trying to take him down.


I can already see it... Nice!
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Postby -Barricade- » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:42 pm

I personally, would like to see Navy ships that can turn into one big TF.
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Postby Forward » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:39 pm

Insurgent wrote:That could be the big, grand finale epic fight. The bots without any combiners of their own, must take down the ultimate con weapon. A combiner. Rather than have two giants go at it, I would prefer just to have the one combiner on screen, with the smaller bots running around, trying to take him down.


I like that idea more, yes.
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Re: Devastator or "Devastator"?

Postby Kortex » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:13 pm

OF COURSE CONSTRUCTICONS SHOULD...THEY WILL FIGHT DINOBOTS IN THE FINAL BATTLE OF THE SEQUEL.....
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Re: Devastator or "Devastator"?

Postby y2jfreak » Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:20 pm

seeing as the 1st movie had alot of blowing stuff up (i.e Blackout at the beginning) that was impressive, its entirely possible for Devastator to practically make TF2 by itself. Imagine Devastator in TF2 realistically very tall, smashing down buildings, cars, roads and such. the onscreen carnage would be so awesome, if a little expensive to do.

I like the idea of the 'Bots fighting Devastator towards the end of the film, he'd be a big, clumsy target to take out and they could kill off some more characters on the way, I'd personally love to see Ironhide have his arms torn off.

Note: Seeing as TF1 we all know Brawl to be, well, Brawl, has anyone noticed the fact that they used the name Devastator in the subtitle before Hoover Dam? That might throw Devastator Gestalt out the window for the next film...
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Re: Devastator or "Devastator"?

Postby Abilor » Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:16 pm

Even if "Devastator" was still up for grabs, there are probably a lot of reasons why they wouldn't use it as the name. I still think they'll roll all the gestalts into one for the movies as a composite character, like Eric from Lovejoy, which I'm sure everyone here knows and loves... I am fairly certain it will be decepticon though, have something to do with megatron's new powers post all-spark, and be enabled by a decepticon newcomer, possibly shockwave.
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Re: Devastator or "Devastator"?

Postby Savage » Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:29 pm

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Re: Devastator or "Devastator"?

Postby Auto Bot » Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:21 pm

Using the name "Devastator", making him from construction vehicles, and having 6, or at least 5, in the group, have some fun factors in it.

It pays homage to the old canon. It will tickle and excite old fans.

Taking all these 3 factors into the Movie Devastator, does not necessarily mean you'll have to design him exactly like the G1 toy or character. The robot can look very much different from the classic toy. Or its power and weakness can be different. There's a lot of thing you can change with the characters. And yet, retain a few basic homage to the original.

It will be fun. :)
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Re: Devastator or "Devastator"?

Postby dragons » Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:42 pm

correct me if im wrong but didnt the new devastor from one oof the new seres of trransformes only has 4 or 5 combiners maybe in tranformers cybertron?

they may be able to do the same if they decide to have bruticos or devastoatr in the sequel i would like to see personally one combinor in the next film have combinors would make it to cartoony close to the animated series

her are some ideas i think may work if they where to have bruticus

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Re: Devastator or "Devastator"?

Postby Auto Bot » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:09 am

Yup. That was one of the worst Devastator iteration.
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