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chuckdawg1999 wrote:While I know most people are concerned about the toys, I'm more interested in how a merger could affect the media, namely the Hub. Would Disney allow Hasbro to be involved in a network that's direct competition to their networks?
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:3) Hasbro is doing fine simply because Disney gives them a lot of their business. Meaning that the only difference between being a Disney-based subsidiary and now is the fact the former gives them permanent rights to the Disney-owned toylines they already make.
Burn wrote: without the whole "theyz gonna child my rapehood!" attitude,
Rated X wrote:Burn wrote: without the whole "theyz gonna child my rapehood!" attitude,
That doesnt make any sense, even in ebonics...
As far as your challenge, my answer is simple. Some people just flat out dont like Disney, what they stand for, or their track record. Discussing why we dont like it could cause moral, ethical, or political debates that you really dont want here. Disney is one of those things that people either love or hate. So if I dont like what you like, that makes me childish ???
Oncoming Storm wrote:Disney (Walt, himself, for starters)
supported the Nazi party, before and during WWII; Walt Hated Jewish persons; and ripped off the Grimm Fairy-tales as well as ruined MANY stories and myths of folklore... (i.e. : 'Hercules', 'Aladdin', Hans Christian-Anderson's 'The Little Mermaid', 'Tarzan', 'The Muppets',now 'Star Wars', and 'Indiana Jones', ETC...) And produced all of those lame-ass musicals. THE Disney Co.
refused to pay any of its animators any royalties on the characters and designs and the stories that they created on their own...(i.e. : Hanna-Barbera, who left to create their own company when Walt refused to let them retain the rights to Donald Duck, Goofy, And other characters that THEY CREATED...)
Yes, Walt created Mickey Mouse, but that's it!!
He took advantage of the talents of many young creators and Animators...
And stole ideas and never paid for them!! THAT's just the beginning of How EVIL and tainted that company is...
Seibertron wrote:He didn't take advantage of the many young creators and animators that WORKED for him as his employees. They were doing their job as his employees so that they could collect a paycheck to pay their bills, support their families and put food on the table ... just like all of us. That's not evil at all. That's just business. Plain and simple.
Handels-Messerschmitt wrote:Seibertron wrote:He didn't take advantage of the many young creators and animators that WORKED for him as his employees. They were doing their job as his employees so that they could collect a paycheck to pay their bills, support their families and put food on the table ... just like all of us. That's not evil at all. That's just business. Plain and simple.
That is taking advantage of them, though. If they want to work with the skills they actually had they had to do what he told them to. What are they gonna do, risk being unable to feed their families?
Seibertron wrote:Oncoming Storm wrote:Disney (Walt, himself, for starters)
supported the Nazi party, before and during WWII; Walt Hated Jewish persons; and ripped off the Grimm Fairy-tales as well as ruined MANY stories and myths of folklore... (i.e. : 'Hercules', 'Aladdin', Hans Christian-Anderson's 'The Little Mermaid', 'Tarzan', 'The Muppets',now 'Star Wars', and 'Indiana Jones', ETC...) And produced all of those lame-ass musicals. THE Disney Co.
refused to pay any of its animators any royalties on the characters and designs and the stories that they created on their own...(i.e. : Hanna-Barbera, who left to create their own company when Walt refused to let them retain the rights to Donald Duck, Goofy, And other characters that THEY CREATED...)
The bit about Walt being a supporter of the Nazi party is blown way out of proportion. You can read more about this here at straightdope.com.
Mouse, not rat. And too late.The Potentate wrote:Id hate to see Optimus Primes Trailer with a picture of a rat on it. Hopefully, this doesnt happen.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
cor2879 wrote:Maybe now we'll get better shows and more continuity rather than rebooting every 3 years.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Oncoming Storm wrote:Disney (Walt, himself, for starters)
supported the Nazi party, before and during WWII; Walt Hated Jewish persons; and ripped off the Grimm Fairy-tales as well as ruined MANY stories and myths of folklore... (i.e. : 'Hercules', 'Aladdin', Hans Christian-Anderson's 'The Little Mermaid', 'Tarzan', 'The Muppets',now 'Star Wars', and 'Indiana Jones', ETC...) And produced all of those lame-ass musicals. THE Disney Co.
refused to pay any of its animators any royalties on the characters and designs and the stories that they created on their own...(i.e. : Hanna-Barbera, who left to create their own company when Walt refused to let them retain the rights to Donald Duck, Goofy, And other characters that THEY CREATED...)
Yes, Walt created Mickey Mouse, but that's it!!
He took advantage of the talents of many young creators and Animators...
And stole ideas and never paid for them!! THAT's just the beginning of How EVIL and tainted that company is...
PrymeStriker wrote:cor2879 wrote:Maybe now we'll get better shows and more continuity rather than rebooting every 3 years.
The G1 continuity lasted for 16 years, and (to a small extent) is still growing.
PrymeStriker wrote:The Unicron Trilogy lasted 4 years, as did the Movie Trilogy.
PrymeStriker wrote:Yep. Reboot every 3 years.
cor2879 wrote:How do you get 16 years? Are you counting from the first episode in 1984 to the beginning of RID? There is no possibly way that counts considering that for most of that time the Transformers franchise was Dead (certainly here in the States it was). No, there is no way that G1 continuity lasted 16 years. We got, at best, 4 years - maybe 6 if you count Beast Wars.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Seibertron wrote:KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:3) Hasbro is doing fine simply because Disney gives them a lot of their business. Meaning that the only difference between being a Disney-based subsidiary and now is the fact the former gives them permanent rights to the Disney-owned toylines they already make.
Except for the fact that Mattel makes the majority of Disney retail products, including the very large Disney Princess segment which I'd love to see Hasbro get (hey maybe that could be the catalyst that brings Jem back which Hasbro is really missing out on with the whole Barbie Popstar thing that my 3.5 year old daughter loves right now).
Here's some of Mattel's Disney product catalog ...
http://shop.mattel.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=3719991
Sargent wrote:Change nothing, and we won't have to fear nothing. Change too much, though...
cor2879 wrote:The last new episode of "The Transformers" aired in 1987. I remember it well because I was excited about the new season that would feature Fortress Maximus and the Headmasters (and Optimus Prime) only to discover that it was a mere three episodes.
I realize that in Japan there were more episodes and more shows that lasted until 1991, but for me as a kid with no means of even knowing about what was going on in Japan, Transformers ended in 1987. Hasbro's involvement with any sort of Transformers TV show certainly ended then. G2 may count as a product line and as a comic, but on TV it was just rehashed or (poorly) remastered episodes of G1, certainly that doesn't count as TV continuity.
cor2879 wrote:The last new episode of "The Transformers" aired in 1987. I remember it well because I was excited about the new season that would feature Fortress Maximus and the Headmasters (and Optimus Prime) only to discover that it was a mere three episodes.
I realize that in Japan there were more episodes and more shows that lasted until 1991, but for me as a kid with no means of even knowing about what was going on in Japan, Transformers ended in 1987. Hasbro's involvement with any sort of Transformers TV show certainly ended then. G2 may count as a product line and as a comic, but on TV it was just rehashed or (poorly) remastered episodes of G1, certainly that doesn't count as TV continuity.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
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