by Sabrblade » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:54 am
cotss2012 wrote:Tidalwavex wrote:IDW,Also made bumblebee the autobot supreme faction leader
Quit screwing with us. Who's really Prime now?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
by Godzillabot Primal » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:37 am
Sabrblade wrote:cotss2012 wrote:Tidalwavex wrote:IDW,Also made bumblebee the autobot supreme faction leader
Quit screwing with us. Who's really Prime now?
Though, he isn't a "Prime" (yet), but Optimus did formally resign from his position of Autobot Leader, which Bumblebee was (to his own surprise) then elected into.
by Dead Metal » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:35 pm
godzillabot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:cotss2012 wrote:Tidalwavex wrote:IDW,Also made bumblebee the autobot supreme faction leader
Quit screwing with us. Who's really Prime now?
Though, he isn't a "Prime" (yet), but Optimus did formally resign from his position of Autobot Leader, which Bumblebee was (to his own surprise) then elected into.
I only wish they'd given him a new form as a leader
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
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Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
by Godzillabot Primal » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:44 pm
Dead Metal wrote:godzillabot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:cotss2012 wrote:Tidalwavex wrote:IDW,Also made bumblebee the autobot supreme faction leader
Quit screwing with us. Who's really Prime now?
Though, he isn't a "Prime" (yet), but Optimus did formally resign from his position of Autobot Leader, which Bumblebee was (to his own surprise) then elected into.
I only wish they'd given him a new form as a leader
They did, he looks like Movie BB with G1 BBs head.
by Sabrblade » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:57 pm
Bottom-left and bottom-middle images.godzillabot wrote:Dead Metal wrote:godzillabot wrote:I only wish they'd given him a new form as a leader
They did, he looks like Movie BB with G1 BBs head.
Oooo...I'm gonna have to look that up
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
by Godzillabot Primal » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:04 pm
Sabrblade wrote:Bottom-left and bottom-middle images.godzillabot wrote:Dead Metal wrote:godzillabot wrote:I only wish they'd given him a new form as a leader
They did, he looks like Movie BB with G1 BBs head.
Oooo...I'm gonna have to look that up
by cotss2012 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:30 am
RiddlerJ wrote:Each one will come with an autographed picture of Michael Bay sitting on top of a huge pile of money.
by vectorA3 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:14 am
No matter what TF continuity you like, don't you feel that TFs deserves better???
by Sabrblade » Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:55 am
You do realized that "Prime" does not always equal "Autobot Leader", right? That's something that's only been established in recent fiction (and retroactively in older fiction).cotss2012 wrote:Leader of the Autobots, but not a Prime? What are those guys smoking, and where can I get some?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
by sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:50 pm
cotss2012 wrote:Leader of the Autobots, but not a Prime? What are those guys smoking, and where can I get some?
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
by Sabrblade » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:10 pm
Marvel G1 Grimlock, Energon Rodimus (same rank as Optimus, but no "Prime"), Movie Megatron (equal leader with Optimus as Lord High Protector), Optimus Primal, Metalhawk, Powered Convoy Magnus, TFA Sentinel "Magnus", Emirate Xaaron.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:cotss2012 wrote:Leader of the Autobots, but not a Prime? What are those guys smoking, and where can I get some?
its been done before, G1 Ultra Magnus, TFA Ultra Magnus, Japanese G1 Fortress Maximus, Ginrai, Star Saber, Dai Atlas.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
by sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:33 pm
Sabrblade wrote:Marvel G1 Grimlock, Energon Rodimus (same rank as Optimus, but no "Prime"), Movie Megatron (equal leader with Optimus as Lord High Protector), Optimus Primal, Metalhawk, Powered Convoy Magnus, TFA Sentinel "Magnus", Emirate Xaaron.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:cotss2012 wrote:Leader of the Autobots, but not a Prime? What are those guys smoking, and where can I get some?
its been done before, G1 Ultra Magnus, TFA Ultra Magnus, Japanese G1 Fortress Maximus, Ginrai, Star Saber, Dai Atlas.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
by Ravenous Nightwind » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:18 pm
by vectorA3 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:22 pm
Sabrblade wrote:You do realized that "Prime" does not always equal "Autobot Leader", right? That's something that's only been established in recent fiction (and retroactively in older fiction).cotss2012 wrote:Leader of the Autobots, but not a Prime? What are those guys smoking, and where can I get some?
For the most part, "Prime" has equaled "Matrix Bearer" but not always "Autobot Leader".
by Sabrblade » Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:41 pm
A can of worms has just been opened.vectorA3 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You do realized that "Prime" does not always equal "Autobot Leader", right? That's something that's only been established in recent fiction (and retroactively in older fiction).cotss2012 wrote:Leader of the Autobots, but not a Prime? What are those guys smoking, and where can I get some?
For the most part, "Prime" has equaled "Matrix Bearer" but not always "Autobot Leader".
Right, b/c Alpha Trion was not a Prime either. Correct?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
by vectorA3 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:02 pm
by Sabrblade » Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:18 pm
More info (and pics) of him here.vectorA3 wrote:Great. Thanks hasbro. I saw the concept art/picture at botcon that had him as a historian or scribe. Very cool picture. Probably won't be able to find it anywhere. I guess it's not too big of a deal if he is or isn't (or if I am or not -lol)
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
by sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:12 am
Sabrblade wrote:A can of worms has just been opened.vectorA3 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You do realized that "Prime" does not always equal "Autobot Leader", right? That's something that's only been established in recent fiction (and retroactively in older fiction).cotss2012 wrote:Leader of the Autobots, but not a Prime? What are those guys smoking, and where can I get some?
For the most part, "Prime" has equaled "Matrix Bearer" but not always "Autobot Leader".
Right, b/c Alpha Trion was not a Prime either. Correct?
Up until recently, he was not known to have been a Prime. Nowadays, Hasbro has declared him as being one of the Thirteen, which now makes him a (former?) Prime. Or at least, his Aligned Continuity version is.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
by Sabrblade » Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:59 am
Yeah, the way i see it, there's at least two different kinds of Primes. There's the leadership title (like Optimus and Rodimus), and there's the sacred title (like the Thirteen). Of course, each series seems to define the Prime title in their own ways, but the meaning of the Prime rank held by the Thirteen is a multiversal definition that doesn't exactly correlate to the meaning of the Prime rank held by the secular Primes of the various series.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:A can of worms has just been opened.vectorA3 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You do realized that "Prime" does not always equal "Autobot Leader", right? That's something that's only been established in recent fiction (and retroactively in older fiction).cotss2012 wrote:Leader of the Autobots, but not a Prime? What are those guys smoking, and where can I get some?
For the most part, "Prime" has equaled "Matrix Bearer" but not always "Autobot Leader".
Right, b/c Alpha Trion was not a Prime either. Correct?
Up until recently, he was not known to have been a Prime. Nowadays, Hasbro has declared him as being one of the Thirteen, which now makes him a (former?) Prime. Or at least, his Aligned Continuity version is.
true, but I would say the the use and definition of "Prime" is different in this case.
In AT's case, its used more like that of family or lineage.If I understand the concept, all the original 13 are considered "Primes" even if they dont have the word as part names and even if they werent leaders of any sort.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
by sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:07 pm
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, the way i see it, there's at least two different kinds of Primes. There's the leadership title (like Optimus and Rodimus), and there's the sacred title (like the Thirteen). Of course, each series seems to define the Prime title in their own ways, but the meaning of the Prime rank held by the Thirteen is a multiversal definition that doesn't exactly correlate to the meaning of the Prime rank held by the secular Primes of the various series.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:A can of worms has just been opened.vectorA3 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You do realized that "Prime" does not always equal "Autobot Leader", right? That's something that's only been established in recent fiction (and retroactively in older fiction).cotss2012 wrote:Leader of the Autobots, but not a Prime? What are those guys smoking, and where can I get some?
For the most part, "Prime" has equaled "Matrix Bearer" but not always "Autobot Leader".
Right, b/c Alpha Trion was not a Prime either. Correct?
Up until recently, he was not known to have been a Prime. Nowadays, Hasbro has declared him as being one of the Thirteen, which now makes him a (former?) Prime. Or at least, his Aligned Continuity version is.
true, but I would say the the use and definition of "Prime" is different in this case.
In AT's case, its used more like that of family or lineage.If I understand the concept, all the original 13 are considered "Primes" even if they dont have the word as part names and even if they werent leaders of any sort.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
by cotss2012 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:35 pm
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:its been done before, G1 Ultra Magnus, TFA Ultra Magnus
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Japans G1 Fortress Maximus
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Ginri,Star Saber, Dai Atlas.
Sabrblade wrote:Marvel G1 Grimlock, Energon Rodimus (same rank as Optimus, but no "Prime"), Movie Megatron (equal leader with Optimus as Lord High Protector), Optimus Primal, Metalhawk, Powered Convoy Magnus, TFA Sentinel "Magnus", Emirate Xaaron.
" would have sufficed.
RiddlerJ wrote:Each one will come with an autographed picture of Michael Bay sitting on top of a huge pile of money.
by vectorA3 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:19 pm
Sabrblade wrote:More info (and pics) of him [img=http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Alpha_Trion_%28Prime%29]here[/img].vectorA3 wrote:Great. Thanks hasbro. I saw the concept art/picture at botcon that had him as a historian or scribe. Very cool picture. Probably won't be able to find it anywhere. I guess it's not too big of a deal if he is or isn't (or if I am or not -lol)
by Sabrblade » Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:30 am
I think an easier way to see it would be that the Prime rank held by the Thirteen is a religious one, while the Prime rank held by typical leaders is a secular one.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:they like to re-defined words/terms
Nah, can't let you off that easily.cotss2012 wrote:Why you always gotta harsh my trolling, man? A simple "
You must be enlightened, young padawan. 
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
by sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:33 am
cotss2012 wrote:Don't you mean Magnus Prime?
Don't you mean Maximus Prime?
Whoever those guys are.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
by sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:36 am
Sabrblade wrote:I think an easier way to see it would be that the Prime rank held by the Thirteen is a religious one, while the Prime rank held by typical leaders is a secular one.sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:they like to re-defined words/terms
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
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