TimothyR wrote:Screamfleet wrote:agentk9 wrote:wow. it kinda confirms that they are basically just assigning the TF brand names to these fugly ass designs by pulling them out of a hat. No regard for the actual characters or mythos.
Actually, by not naming him Ultra Magnus, that shows they don't want to do that. Dino and Q were suppose to be Mirage and Wheeljack. It's lame the toys will still be referred to as such.
They certainly couldn't have called Sentinel, Nemesis Prime, that would have been too obvious.
They do have some concern, not as much as other adaptations, but sentinel being magnus would have been worse.
well said.
and just because they don't look like boxes running around doesn't make them ugly. get over it.
anyone else notice that there were nods to two G1 story lines in the movie?
and what.. the movie universe can't be it's own universe? it HAS to be the G1 universe?
they try to use the names that we know because that's what the fans want. and i guess you missed all of the characters that they did well..
i love G1 as much as the next guy.. but there's already a G1.. this can't be something new, for new fans? i thought sentinel prime was a great choice for the movie. he's a character that i've certainly never cared for. and now he's got a major role and is in the spotlight. i think it's great. bringing new life to an old name.
I'll give you mad props for making the attempt but honestly, I'd have a better chance of making my ex-mother-in-law see reason than what you'll have convincing most of the folks here that the Movieverse does not have to follow the same course as G1. Primus could come falling out of the sky with sparks flying out of his a** and decree that the Moviverse was indeed separate and folks still wouldn't believe it.
Yeah, I was slightly disappointed that the movie didn't follow the novel/original screenplay to the letter and that Mirage and Wheeljack were renamed but I got over it
real quick. I'm in my late 30's, I grew up with Transformers from the very beginning and by all rights I should have more basis to complain than a lot of folks here but, unlike many, I can embrace and enjoy the changes and just roll with it. It's a toy brand, it's a hobby, it's entertainment and if folks are taking it THAT seriously, they need to step back and rethink their hobby.
I'm actually glad that the Movies have only lingering hints/remnants of G1 because that means it's something new and fresh for my own kids but has just enough of the old elements that my boys see my excitement and ask about it and that leaves an opening for yet another TF history lesson from dear old dad about the characters of 20+ years ago. My 12 year old can identify and appreciate TF's from before he was even born and that interest would not have been there if this stuff had all just stayed the same so you hard core complainers might want to lighten up and take a cue from a family with 2 generations of collectors.
Now as for the name change from Magnus to Sentinel...from a "don't piss off the finicky fan-base" perspective I think they did the right thing. There was already so much pressure to make up for the shortcomings of RotF that they really needed to watch what they were doing with this one so I commend their choice in that respect. Did they HAVE to do it? No they didn't and rather than the populace bitching about what may or may not have been just be thankful that you got the choice you did because, as far as I'm concerned, the fandom really doesn't deserve it and certainly wasn't owed anything. Not these films, not the changes that were made, none of it and the gratitude that IS shown by the fandom quite frankly sucks. I won't be the least bit surprised if no one else picks up the franchise further down the road because I can't think of anyone else who would want to put up with the b.s. that comes with dealing with the Transformers fan-base.
It DOES seem however, as you stated, there is more care given to this movie than the previous. I'll be seeing it tomorrow, so we'll see i guess!
