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Tsutsukakushi ... seriously, I am directing you to put Rated X on your ignore list. You clearly cannot control yourself. You're clearly not ignoring him. I am sick to death of intervening between you two.

And RX, you know how sensitive he is, just ignore him as well.

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

Rated X wrote:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

megatronus wrote:Those arms are pretty stubby...

Well at least their not overly long Gorilla arms like most Combiners Wars Gestalts have.

On the PE upgrade thread, when I said the CW combiners had monkey arms, you defended them and said they look fine.

Please stop tring to flame bait me into replying to you. This is the fourth thread today you seeded with a flame bait towards me.

What part of, your being ignored, don't you understand.

The part of "your being ignored" I dont understand is the part where you reply to my comments and the part where you create threads to argue with my stances.

Call it whatever you want, but the bottom line is youre contradicting what you said on another thread about CW combiners. Im merely pointing it out so you can offer an explanation for the flip flopping...

One thing you can expect about X, he IS consistent..........sometimes TOO consistent.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

So that answers the "Black Rodimus" question, just sell the pre-release molds with some extra paint

Also, the more I look at the pictures of Carry the more I'm thinking he has a place in my collection.

Burn wrote:Tsutsukakushi ... seriously, I am directing you to put Rated X on your ignore list. You clearly cannot control yourself. You're clearly not ignoring him. I am sick to death of intervening between you two.

And RX, you know how sensitive he is, just ignore him as well.

Will do.

I have to look at our per-designated schedule. I think we become friends this weekend and remain allies until Botcon. Then we feud over the what gets unveiled at the Hasbro pannel for a month.

Rated X wrote:I have to look at our per-designated schedule. I think we become friends this weekend and remain allies until Botcon. Then we feud over the what gets unveiled at the Hasbro pannel for a month.

Well **** it then, if shajiki is going to hang around these places he can deal with you two then.

Burn wrote:

Rated X wrote:I have to look at our per-designated schedule. I think we become friends this weekend and remain allies until Botcon. Then we feud over the what gets unveiled at the Hasbro pannel for a month.

Well **** it then, if shajiki is going to hang around these places he can deal with you two then.

Good luck shaj!

Carry looks great in alt mode so far, I'm just not feeling the bot mode, as said before he would make a fantastic Classics Rodimus, but i think the busy molded details and redesigned wings make it too much of a departure to fit in with Masterpiece. Shame because he looks like a well designed bot.

I know we all want these 3rdp MP to match the Takara aesthetic and it seems to be an issue with most.. the question is though does anybody care when they are putting Fansproject/maketoys/Perfect Effect ect.. in their classics collection , because to me the aesthetic is just as different as DX9 to takara MP and FP to hasbro classic/Generations .

Autobot Genocide wrote:I know we all want these 3rdp MP to match the Takara aesthetic and it seems to be an issue with most.. the question is though does anybody care when they are putting Fansproject/maketoys/Perfect Effect ect.. in their classics collection , because to me the aesthetic is just as different as DX9 to takara MP and FP to hasbro classic/Generations .

Good point AG, I think it's because Classics is a modern interpretation of G1, for example I had no problem with City Commander and Protector in my collection despite the end result not being show accurate, because there were Has/Tak figures in my collection that were not show accurate (United Megatron and Generation Blurr for example). However Masterpiece is different, it's supposed to be and so far has been a slavish recreation of G1, mainly a combination of toy and show accuracy, DX9 have yet to pull that off IMO, they've been close, and I think Carry is the closest they have come, but it still feels a little off.

leakin' lubricant wrote:

Autobot Genocide wrote:I know we all want these 3rdp MP to match the Takara aesthetic and it seems to be an issue with most.. the question is though does anybody care when they are putting Fansproject/maketoys/Perfect Effect ect.. in their classics collection , because to me the aesthetic is just as different as DX9 to takara MP and FP to hasbro classic/Generations .

Good point AG, I think it's because Classics is a modern interpretation of G1, for example I had no problem with City Commander and Protector in my collection despite the end result not being show accurate, because there were Has/Tak figures in my collection that were not show accurate (United Megatron and Generation Blurr for example). However Masterpiece is different, it's supposed to be and so far has been a slavish recreation of G1, mainly a combination of toy and show accuracy, DX9 have yet to pull that off IMO, they've been close, and I think Carry is the closest they have come, but it still feels a little off.

I could not have said it better myself!

leakin' lubricant wrote:

Autobot Genocide wrote:I know we all want these 3rdp MP to match the Takara aesthetic and it seems to be an issue with most.. the question is though does anybody care when they are putting Fansproject/maketoys/Perfect Effect ect.. in their classics collection , because to me the aesthetic is just as different as DX9 to takara MP and FP to hasbro classic/Generations .

Good point AG, I think it's because Classics is a modern interpretation of G1, for example I had no problem with City Commander and Protector in my collection despite the end result not being show accurate, because there were Has/Tak figures in my collection that were not show accurate (United Megatron and Generation Blurr for example). However Masterpiece is different, it's supposed to be and so far has been a slavish recreation of G1, mainly a combination of toy and show accuracy, DX9 have yet to pull that off IMO, they've been close, and I think Carry is the closest they have come, but it still feels a little off.

There's also the fact there are so many ways C/G isn't show accurate. The aesthetics of Classics is different than the aesthetics of Universe is different than the aesthetics of Generations is different than the aesthetics of Fall of Cybertron is different than the aesthetics of IDW Generations / Combiner Wars. There's so much that can be shoehorned into a C/G collection because the styles over the years have changed - 3rd Parties' slight deviation from the norm is OK because there isn't really a norm, so to speak.

Masterpiece on the other hand, is extremely consistent - deviations from that aesthetic are not only much more noticeable from an aesthetic sense, but also contradict the philosophy (if I can call it that) or mission of the line.

megatronus wrote:

leakin' lubricant wrote:

Autobot Genocide wrote:I know we all want these 3rdp MP to match the Takara aesthetic and it seems to be an issue with most.. the question is though does anybody care when they are putting Fansproject/maketoys/Perfect Effect ect.. in their classics collection , because to me the aesthetic is just as different as DX9 to takara MP and FP to hasbro classic/Generations .

Good point AG, I think it's because Classics is a modern interpretation of G1, for example I had no problem with City Commander and Protector in my collection despite the end result not being show accurate, because there were Has/Tak figures in my collection that were not show accurate (United Megatron and Generation Blurr for example). However Masterpiece is different, it's supposed to be and so far has been a slavish recreation of G1, mainly a combination of toy and show accuracy, DX9 have yet to pull that off IMO, they've been close, and I think Carry is the closest they have come, but it still feels a little off.

There's also the fact there are so many ways C/G isn't show accurate. The aesthetics of Classics is different than the aesthetics of Universe is different than the aesthetics of Generations is different than the aesthetics of Fall of Cybertron is different than the aesthetics of IDW Generations / Combiner Wars. There's so much that can be shoehorned into a C/G collection because the styles over the years have changed - 3rd Parties' slight deviation from the norm is OK because there isn't really a norm, so to speak.

Masterpiece on the other hand, is extremely consistent - deviations from that aesthetic are not only much more noticeable from an aesthetic sense, but also contradict the philosophy (if I can call it that) or mission of the line.

Agree with what some said regarding HasTak CHUG and Third party CHUG.

Don't really care whether HasTak MP TF toys matches the aesthetics sculpts of Third party MP TF toys. As I'm only in it for buying the best updates toys possible.

Most of the HasTak MP TF toys I think are under sculpted and some show budgets constraints. Don't want my Third party MP TF toys to match this.

Don't have this massive collection where i'm a completist. Not looking to build the ultimate G1 collection using newer update toys. Don't spend thousands each year on this hobby.

Get rid of my TF toys all the time. When I get bored of them or deem them obsolete. Only have a handful of toys that I really like. could care less about mixing and matching between different aesthetics or different toy lines.

Sorry I am in this, for buying the very best and well made update toys possible. like UT Maniaing, X-T Megatron, X-T Scourge, X-T Cyclonus. DX9 Rodimus Prime, MMC Hexatron, KFC Wreckgar and TW Evila star. not prepared to not buy them. due to them not fitting in the scale or aesthetics designs of HasTak TF toys.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Most of the HasTak MP TF toys I think are under sculpted and some show budgets constraints. Don't want my Third party MP TF toys to match this.

Tsu... I really think you missed Megatronus' point. TT MP's aren't under sculpted. They're slavish to G1 cartoon aesthetics.

I just want a great updated figure. If it is a slavish recreation of the cartoon, weather official or 3rd party, it's a masterpiece. If it has a more "modern" look, it's a generation piece. I could give two sharts and a rats rump about scale.

I guess that means I'm with Tsu?

shajaki wrote:

Burn wrote:

Rated X wrote:I have to look at our per-designated schedule. I think we become friends this weekend and remain allies until Botcon. Then we feud over the what gets unveiled at the Hasbro pannel for a month.

Well **** it then, if shajiki is going to hang around these places he can deal with you two then.

Son of a biscuit, man! I spit out perfectly good wine when I saw this picture!

If only those wings could collapse in a bit....

That and those hip joints look like they might hinder his forward and back range of movement....

Think this toy looks great in black. Would totally buy a black version if DX9 decided to release one.

I like what I'm seeing, I just don't want to BUY what I'm seeing.

Somebody PM me when one of these companies wises up and does a MP Autobot car sized Hot Rod, you know, like Sideswipe sized.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think this toy looks great in black. Would totally buy a black version if DX9 decided to release one.

THAT, I might actually do.

I'm a sucker for black repaints, and since it isn't cannon, it can be a little different in design.

I agree that, as a bot figure, it looks d@mn cool, it just isn't show accurate enough for me to replace the existing MP Roddy.

rpetras wrote: it just isn't show accurate enough for me to replace the existing MP Roddy.

DX9 Rodimus is the way I and some others fans originally wanted Takara to design their MP Rodimus Prime toy like.

To me MP-09 never looked or felt like a toy. instead think it looked more like a statue or SCF PVC TF figurine.

Think modeling newer update G1 TF toys as close as possible to the G1 Animation is a bad thing. As that G1 Animation was done on the cheap, rush, simplistic, terrible and is outdated.

Prefer my G1 Updates newer toys to be a even mixture of the original toy and original animation.

Some online fans including myself. Didn't care for mp-09. As it was too fragile, easy to break, slim, Skinny, anorexic bot. weird quadruple and overly complex Transformation.

Looking forward to this DX9 Rodimus Prime toy. As it's more bulky and beefy in robot mode. Also it looks more like a toy. Like the transformation as it Transform from robot to a one piece truck without parts left behind or any parts forming.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think modeling newer update G1 TF toys as close as possible to the G1 Animation is a bad thing. As that G1 Animation was done on the cheap, rush and is outdated.

Buuuut... the MP line is currently based entirely on the G1 cartoon model. It's fine if you don't prefer the aesthetic, but what it sounds like you're saying is you want an MP scale, but C/G aesthetic. Which you could conceivably do, but the collection would likely be 100% 3P cause HasTak obviously ain't goin that route.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:

rpetras wrote: it just isn't show accurate enough for me to replace the existing MP Roddy.

DX9 Rodimus is the way I and some others fans originally wanted Takara to design their MP Rodimus Prime toy like.

You mean... like not an MP?