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Burn wrote:So yes, Orci and Kurtzman were very much the problem. They couldn't come up with an original idea between them. Take a look at their track record of writing and see that their big "successes" are based on franchises that have decades of mythology.
Burn wrote:I swear, your comedy has gotten to the level of G1 Starscream since we put staff colours on you.
TheForgottenTaxi wrote:I don't get all the hate for Orci and Kurtzman. I think Transformers Prime proves that they were not the problem.
Anyway, this is just another sign that we're in for more of the same crap with TF4. All I can say about that is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YxChiuA398
Burn wrote:Bleak5170 wrote:TheForgottenTaxi wrote:I don't get all the hate for Orci and Kurtzman. I think Transformers Prime proves that they were not the problem.
Agreed. They wrote the first movie which I absolutely loved. And we all know how awesome TF Prime is. I have zero problem with those two.
They're not writing TF Prime though. They're simply only producers. If we're going to give credit to producers then people should either be forming a lynch mob for, or think the sun shines out of Don Murphy's butt.
So yes, Orci and Kurtzman were very much the problem. They couldn't come up with an original idea between them. Take a look at their track record of writing and see that their big "successes" are based on franchises that have decades of mythology.
Autobot032 wrote:What you just said.
MINDVVIPE wrote:Either way, Prime is waaaay better than the flicks.
SlyTF1 wrote:synthetik wrote:I know this thing is being greenlit for making dosh but can we stop dragging TF's good name through puddles of **** mud? Call it something else, give it some cool lore than hasbro can sell TFs and "insert poopy bayformer robot title here".
It took me a year or so to finally watch dark side of the moon and I was ashamed to be a TF fan afterwards.
Oh well.autobotOG wrote: Yes, there were the obvious plotholes (especially in revenge)
No there weren't.
autobotOG wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:synthetik wrote:I know this thing is being greenlit for making dosh but can we stop dragging TF's good name through puddles of **** mud? Call it something else, give it some cool lore than hasbro can sell TFs and "insert poopy bayformer robot title here".
It took me a year or so to finally watch dark side of the moon and I was ashamed to be a TF fan afterwards.
Oh well.autobotOG wrote: Yes, there were the obvious plotholes (especially in revenge)
No there weren't.
No? So you don't think the fact that Megatron could be reanimated with a shard from the allspark, but it was necessary to travel to Egypt and find an ancient autobot relic to reanimate optimus (with shard of allspark in hand, mind you) wasent an OBVIOUS plothole?
autobotOG wrote:See, I saw it a different way...I thought in the battle in the woods, it was optimus's abdominal area that was destroyed (hence the new abs in dark of the Moon), i thought his spark chamber was higher up...in the chest area you could say. Where as, Megatron had the all spark actually INSERTED into his spark chamber, leaving it a charred hole. So it would make more sense to me than an all spark shard would be more effective on optimus. And I get Megatron was rebuilt prior to reanimation, but couldn't ratchet had repaired him enough for him to be brought back to life? That, and Sam knew of the second shards existance 30 minutes into the movie, you would have thought he would have at least tried it first before venturing off into the unknown, right?
Either way, I don't need a seemless plot to enjoy a movie about bots and cons, so I liked it regardless, LOL
autobotOG wrote:See, I saw it a different way...I thought in the battle in the woods, it was optimus's abdominal area that was destroyed (hence the new abs in dark of the Moon), i thought his spark chamber was higher up...in the chest area you could say. Where as, Megatron had the all spark actually INSERTED into his spark chamber, leaving it a charred hole. So it would make more sense to me than an all spark shard would be more effective on optimus. And I get Megatron was rebuilt prior to reanimation, but couldn't ratchet had repaired him enough for him to be brought back to life? That, and Sam knew of the second shards existance 30 minutes into the movie, you would have thought he would have at least tried it first before venturing off into the unknown, right?
Either way, I don't need a seemless plot to enjoy a movie about bots and cons, so I liked it regardless, LOL
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SlyTF1 wrote:all_the_primes wrote:The sight of TF4 has always burned my eyes. BUT THIS?! No... TF4 is just bad idea.![]()
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You've never seen it. So how could the sight of it burn your eyes?
Autobot032 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:all_the_primes wrote:The sight of TF4 has always burned my eyes. BUT THIS?! No... TF4 is just bad idea.![]()
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You've never seen it. So how could the sight of it burn your eyes?
SlyTF1 wrote:all_the_primes wrote:The sight of TF4 has always burned my eyes. BUT THIS?! No... TF4 is just bad idea.![]()
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You've never seen it. So how could the sight of it burn your eyes?
autobotOG wrote:That, and Sam knew of the second shards existance 30 minutes into the movie, you would have thought he would have at least tried it first before venturing off into the unknown, right?
autobotOG wrote:And you could be right, but what struck me as off was the fact that after watching the shard turn his parents kitchen into a tiny armada, he never even suggested to any other autobots the prospect of using it to revive prime. But he certainly seemed aware of its capabilities when bringing jetfire to life, right?
I have had to defend these movies to countless people online and in person, so I understand the "ocd" moment and feeling like your repeating yourself, LOL. But please dont feel like your "defending" them to me, bro, like I said, I loved the movies. I just hate my job and would rather banter with people of similar interest online:)
MINDVVIPE wrote:Your all forgetting the biggest plothole to all three movies. The plothole of why I actually spent money to watch these boring movies.![]()
I couldn't be the only one who was actually stressed during the first movie due to the lack of Robot presence on-screen. Everytime they showed some of the bot action, I couldn't even enjoy it coz I knew in a few seconds, I'd have to endure long scenes of just human interaction. It's all been said before, but damn, I've never been so stressed while watching a movie. haha.
SlyTF1 wrote:MINDVVIPE wrote:Your all forgetting the biggest plothole to all three movies. The plothole of why I actually spent money to watch these boring movies.![]()
I couldn't be the only one who was actually stressed during the first movie due to the lack of Robot presence on-screen. Everytime they showed some of the bot action, I couldn't even enjoy it coz I knew in a few seconds, I'd have to endure long scenes of just human interaction. It's all been said before, but damn, I've never been so stressed while watching a movie. haha.
This is why I never watch that movie any more. It annoys me. That and the Autobots don't show up until the end of the movie and Megatron only has like 3 or 4 minutes of screen time.
MINDVVIPE wrote:Your all forgetting the biggest plothole to all three movies. The plothole of why I actually spent money to watch these boring movies.![]()
I couldn't be the only one who was actually stressed during the first movie due to the lack of Robot presence on-screen. Everytime they showed some of the bot action, I couldn't even enjoy it coz I knew in a few seconds, I'd have to endure long scenes of just human interaction. It's all been said before, but damn, I've never been so stressed while watching a movie. haha.
Capt.Failure wrote:MINDVVIPE wrote:Your all forgetting the biggest plothole to all three movies. The plothole of why I actually spent money to watch these boring movies.![]()
I couldn't be the only one who was actually stressed during the first movie due to the lack of Robot presence on-screen. Everytime they showed some of the bot action, I couldn't even enjoy it coz I knew in a few seconds, I'd have to endure long scenes of just human interaction. It's all been said before, but damn, I've never been so stressed while watching a movie. haha.
We need a meme of this on the Advice Animals subreddit.
"See movie I end up hating. Watch both sequels and complain about how I hated them."
You people make me laugh. So pathetic.
Autobot032 wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:MINDVVIPE wrote:Your all forgetting the biggest plothole to all three movies. The plothole of why I actually spent money to watch these boring movies.![]()
I couldn't be the only one who was actually stressed during the first movie due to the lack of Robot presence on-screen. Everytime they showed some of the bot action, I couldn't even enjoy it coz I knew in a few seconds, I'd have to endure long scenes of just human interaction. It's all been said before, but damn, I've never been so stressed while watching a movie. haha.
We need a meme of this on the Advice Animals subreddit.
"See movie I end up hating. Watch both sequels and complain about how I hated them."
You people make me laugh. So pathetic.
Easy. Let's bring that down a notch, please. Your use of pathetic was absolutely unnecessary, here.
Capt.Failure wrote:Autobot032 wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:MINDVVIPE wrote:Your all forgetting the biggest plothole to all three movies. The plothole of why I actually spent money to watch these boring movies.![]()
I couldn't be the only one who was actually stressed during the first movie due to the lack of Robot presence on-screen. Everytime they showed some of the bot action, I couldn't even enjoy it coz I knew in a few seconds, I'd have to endure long scenes of just human interaction. It's all been said before, but damn, I've never been so stressed while watching a movie. haha.
We need a meme of this on the Advice Animals subreddit.
"See movie I end up hating. Watch both sequels and complain about how I hated them."
You people make me laugh. So pathetic.
Easy. Let's bring that down a notch, please. Your use of pathetic was absolutely unnecessary, here.
The point stands though. Let's imagine someone shot them self in the foot. What is the rational response?
a) "OUCH! JEEZE! I better go to a doctor!"
b) "OUCH! JEEZE! That really hurt! Better shoot my other foot and my unoccupied hand too."
If you chose b) then you've voided your right to complain.
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