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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby Shadowman » Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:32 pm

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Mr.Bond007 wrote:No they didn't if you look there's snow and ice, the dinobots live on a tropical island.


Yet they found the Dinobots in a snowfilled forest in the previous episode :roll:


It might have been an island, but I don't think it was the Dinobot's.
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby Dead Metal » Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:59 pm

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Some one on youtube said that Sarry is a clone of here "mother".
But I like the idea of Sumdac cloning himself and kinda mixing in a bit of Megatron far more awesome.

This eppy was awesome, damn there were moments in it that made me worry that Sumdac might get killed.

Is Starscream dead?
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby Stormwolf » Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:52 pm

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Dead Metal wrote:Some one on youtube said that Sarry is a clone of here "mother".
But I like the idea of Sumdac cloning himself and kinda mixing in a bit of Megatron far more awesome.

This eppy was awesome, damn there were moments in it that made me worry that Sumdac might get killed.

Is Starscream dead?


He was put into a forced stasislock (since he didn't turn black).
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby DavidT » Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:25 pm

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Mr.Bond007 wrote:No they didn't if you look there's snow and ice, the dinobots live on a tropical island.


Yet they found the Dinobots in a snowfilled forest in the previous episode :roll:


It might have been an island, but I don't think it was the Dinobot's.



I believe it was Dinobot island. By being stuck there it will force the Dinobots to interact with autobots and form some type of relationship. Also it will give the Dinobots a place to hangout if they choose, kinda like in G1
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby Defcon! » Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:45 pm

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Had to record the episode and just finished watching it after i got home from work. Loved it! Thought for sure the Autobots would get some help. Does anyone know for sure if the ark is Omega Supreme? When the ark crashed the one overhead view sure looked exactly like it could be him. The gun turret looks like his head. I missed a couple episodes and have to catch up. Actually we recorded them and the recording got seriously screwed up and missed some parts. Last weeks was one of them! That's who i thought would come to their aid.
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby saberconvoy » Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:30 pm

Mr.Bond007 wrote:I don't get it why did Sumdac go with Megs at the end?


Megatron stole him, Its very much like rid.
He most likely stole him to rebuild himself others and the new ones that are not out yet.
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby Bumblethumper » Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:59 pm

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Was anyone like me, hoping that the Allspark was going to transform the ark into Omega? I mean I knew it wouldn't happen, but I was kind of hoping.



Oh yeah. Definitely crossed my mind. When the ark was going down, at first I was hoping Optimus or someone would say 'head for dinobot island'. Then when it went down, and they were talking about the allspark, it seemed like they were going to bring the ark to life, so I figured, "who else could the ark transform into?".

To me it makes a lot of sense for to choose the Ark as Omega's alt mode. That's one case where I think a change of alt mode would be a substantial improvement. But maybe it's a good idea to save that for a later episode.
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby saberconvoy » Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:31 pm

Bumblethumper wrote:
tigertracks 24 wrote:
Was anyone like me, hoping that the Allspark was going to transform the ark into Omega? I mean I knew it wouldn't happen, but I was kind of hoping.



Oh yeah. Definitely crossed my mind. When the ark was going down, at first I was hoping Optimus or someone would say 'head for dinobot island'. Then when it went down, and they were talking about the allspark, it seemed like they were going to bring the ark to life, so I figured, "who else could the ark transform into?".

To me it makes a lot of sense for to choose the Ark as Omega's alt mode. That's one case where I think a change of alt mode would be a substantial improvement. But maybe it's a good idea to save that for a later episode.



It would make since for it to be omega i could see him coming from the ark. But it would be a while until then. Possible the middle of season 2.
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby AxiomScion » Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:12 pm

Dead Metal wrote:Some one on youtube said that Sarry is a clone of here "mother".
But I like the idea of Sumdac cloning himself and kinda mixing in a bit of Megatron far more awesome.

This eppy was awesome, damn there were moments in it that made me worry that Sumdac might get killed.


I'm thinking since Sarri never knew her mother, Sumdac used Megatron tech to test tube his self a baby.

Also agreed on the Omega Supreme in a future epi. So long as I hear Prime refer to the ship as "there last line of defense" before it happens B-)
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby Bumblethumper » Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:44 pm

AxiomScion wrote:Also agreed on the Omega Supreme in a future epi. So long as I hear Prime refer to the ship as "there last line of defense" before it happens B-)


Good call!

And they need to save Onega Supreme for something really dramatic. For when the autobots are really backed into a corner. A character to unleash at the most climactic moment.

Another reason to hold out on Omega Supreme is because it's one character they could really to make a great toy of. What collector wouldn't want a toy of the ark? And only one class size can be worthy. Image

The way I see it, Roll Out Optimus will probably come out some time before this Christmas. Ultimate Bumblebee was big last Christmas. I think it'd be unusual if they did more than one Supreme class toy per year.

Ideally Omega Supreme will be something that'll look super-huge next to Activators and Legends class figures.
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby flame_leopard » Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:53 pm

Hey, just figured I should throw this down here. My satellite's channel guide goes a week in advance, and I checked out next week's episode. It's Elite Guard. I now that it's been kinda rumored about, so I figured I would say something to help clarify it.
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby Liege Evilmus » Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:04 pm

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Liege Evilmus wrote:I liked the first part better. There where some cool fight moves. But the whole allspark dispersed, blitzwing being to stupid to realize a tank can't fly, and giving the key back to that kid...

I twas a let down after all the build up.



The thing with Blitzwing is that Prowl discovered that when Blitzwing changes personalities, his alt mode changes with him. So his "cold" mode is always the jet, if he is transformed, and likewise his "angry" personality is the tank. If he is in the air and is forced into his angry personality (which Bumblebee was trying to do) then he'd change into a tank involuntarily and crash.



I get it, but I know alot of loonies that apreciate self control, you would think with as long as a TF lives, their mastry of a personal situation would be refined, especialy when it involves personal harm to ones self.
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby Burn » Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:34 pm

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Well, that was nice and anti-climatic. :?
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby Canned Pasta » Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:47 pm

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Burn wrote:Well, that was nice and anti-climatic. :?


Yeah, all in all though, not too bad for the first episode of Season 2
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby Bumblethumper » Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:53 pm

Liege Evilmus wrote:
Izanami wrote:
Liege Evilmus wrote:I liked the first part better. There where some cool fight moves. But the whole allspark dispersed, blitzwing being to stupid to realize a tank can't fly, and giving the key back to that kid...

I twas a let down after all the build up.



The thing with Blitzwing is that Prowl discovered that when Blitzwing changes personalities, his alt mode changes with him. So his "cold" mode is always the jet, if he is transformed, and likewise his "angry" personality is the tank. If he is in the air and is forced into his angry personality (which Bumblebee was trying to do) then he'd change into a tank involuntarily and crash.



I get it, but I know alot of loonies that apreciate self control, you would think with as long as a TF lives, their mastry of a personal situation would be refined, especialy when it involves personal harm to ones self.


yeah, but if a character doesn't have absolute control over jumping from one split personality to another, how's he going to maintain that sort of mental discipline when his less cerebral persona takes over? Worked for me.
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby Autobot Jazz » Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:55 pm

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Burn wrote:Well, that was nice and anti-climatic. :?


Yeah, all in all though, not too bad for the first episode of Season 2

It's actually the season finale of Saeon 1. Still an awesome episode, just wish the Dinobots had been in it. I can't wait for "The Elite Guard."
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby Ragnorok64 » Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:30 pm

I was expecting the Dinobots to show up somehow, but this episode was all kinds of awesome anyway. :grin:
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby munkimus prime » Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:10 am

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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby spiritofcat » Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:19 am

I really liked the G1 homage of the ark crashed into the mountain.
Still a bit irritated that Sari has the key once again.
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I'm still not exactly sure what Sari thinks of Blackarachnia. Was she really just leading her in circles to keep her occupied?

In the recap at the start of the episode, when megatron was pulling himself together, this time we see Sumdac fall out of his hand after it attaches to his arm.
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby Saberwing » Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:52 am

One of the weakest eps so far

...and how come the ship now flies? Only a few eps back we we're told it would take months to fix it even with the key...

and that stupid key! Talk about plot device, enough with it already!!!
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby Shadowman » Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:29 am

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Burn wrote:Well, that was nice and anti-climatic. :?


Yeah, the huge explosion in the middle of an epic fight scene was just boring.
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby Nekoman » Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:34 am

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Burn wrote:Well, that was nice and anti-climatic. :?

Very.

Know what I’ve realized? Aside from just a few things, look where this show has gone, nowhere.

This could have been so much better, but in the end it was pathetic. Megatron seemed like once he got his body he became amazingly idiotic. Also, the Autobots got “damaged” but that wasn’t very apparent in the details. Why did Starscream hesitate at killing Bumblebee? I know it’s a kids show, but instead of doing it so poorly how about just avoiding the scene? The detail in this show I often find very lacking. Where was Lockdown? I would have liked to seen a bit more of him. Another thing, Megatron reformatted, but never scanned the osprey he took the form of, in fact, a osprey never even appeared in the episode excluding Megatron. I still think Ratchet should have at least shown a little pain. Oh and what a wonderful way to end the episode, they gave the key back to Sari, I don’t know, but it just didn’t seem like a good idea after what happened.

Meh, that sums up my thoughts, actually, I’ll narrow it down to one word: Meh.
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby shortround » Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:39 am

I kept tell everyone that when megatron came back the writers were going to make sure he didn't wipe out the autobots in one episode and this was there way of make sure that didn't happen. Also I found we will see sari turn into a teenager before the series ends and that when we see what she can real do. The writers won't say what that is but I'm hoping for something really amazing to happen something that none of expects. Because for the most part humans haven't play major role in transformers up untill now either the human have been whiney little bitches or non nonexistent for the most part.
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby Seibertron » Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:43 am

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Burn wrote:Well, that was nice and anti-climatic. :?


Yeah, all in all though, not too bad for the first episode of Season 2

It's actually the season finale of Saeon 1. Still an awesome episode, just wish the Dinobots had been in it. I can't wait for "The Elite Guard."


Season One is 26 episodes long plus the 3 part movie shown the day after Christmas ... so technically it's 29 episodes long.

Episodes 1-3: Transform & Roll Out!
Optimus Prime & his small crew of Autobots come into possession of the AllSpark, a powerful Cybertronian artifact that actracts the attention of their long-forgotten enemies the Decepticons and sends them crashing to a strange & distant planet known as Earth.

Episode 4: Home is Where the Spark is
The Autobots settle into their new home base - an abandoned automobile manufacturing plant but the ancient assembly line machinery seems to have developed a mind of its own.

Episode 5: Total Meltdown
A bio-engineering genius experiments with some of Bumblebee's hydraulic fluid & accidentally transformers himself into Meltdown, whose corrosive touch can melt anything - including Autobots!

Episode 6: Blast From the Past
Professor Sumdac Upgrades a trio of animatronic dinosaurs from a local theme park, but the creatures develop minds of their own & become rampaging Dinobots, bent on destroying the Autobots.

Episode 7: Thrill of the Hunt
While Autobots encounter a mysterious muscle car creating havoc in Detroit, Ratchet keeps flashing back to his "tour of duty" in the Great Autobot-Decepticon Wars.

Episode 8: Nanosec
Bumblebee's self-proclaimed title as "fastest thing on wheels" is threatened by Nanosec, a super speedster crook on a deadly mission that could destroy all of Detroit.

Episode 9: Along Came a Spider
Bumblebee & Bulkhead's first Halloween turns even spookier when they encounter a giant spider that turns out to be the deadly Decepticon Blackarachnia.

Episode 10: Sound & Fury
Sari's new toy musical robot seems to have an evil streak - and the ability to control other machines - but Bulkhead is the only on who sees it.

Episode 11: Lost & Found
The Autobots clash with Decepticons Lugnut & Blitzwing, who come to Earth searching for their missing leader Megatron.

Episode 12: Survival of the Fittest
Sari is kidnapped & the evidence points to the Dinobots. So Prowl & Bulkhead head to a mysterious island to investigate - with a highly suspicious Captain Fanzone on their tail.

Episode 13: Headmaster
A disgruntled Sumdac employee seeks revenge & profit by taking control of one of the Autobots & sending him on a rampage.

Episode 14: Nature Calls
Prowl, Bumblebee and Sari get more than they bargained for when they head out to the remote woods to investigate a mysterious energy signal.

Episode 15: Megatron Rising, Part One
Prime begins to doubt his leadership abilities as the Decepticons mobilize for a big invasion of Earth.

Episode 16: Megatron Rising, Part Two
The Autobots are decimated by the Decepticon invasion, but still must rally to prevent the AllSpark from falling into their clutches.

Episode 17: The Elite Guard
The Cybertron Elite Guard arrives on Earth to retrieve the AllSpark & relieve Prime & his crew of their post, but they prove less than adept at blending in with the human world.

Episode 18: Return of the Headmaster
Optimus Prime is forced to team up with his rival Sentinel Prime after Sentinel has a humilliating - & potentially fatal - encounter with the Headmaster.

Episode 19: Mission Accomplished
Convince there are no Decepticons left on Earth, the Elite Guard prepares to take Optimus Prime & his crew back to Cybertron - unaware of the increasing Decepticon activity taking place uner their very noses.

Episode 20: Garbage In, Garbage Out
AllSpark energy turns junk pile into a sentient robot who tries to help the Autobots, but ends up doing more harm than good.

Episode 21: Velocity
Investigating a mysterious race car, Bumblebee gets involved with an illegal underground street racing circuit, which also captures the attention of the Decepticons.

Episode 22: Rise of the Constructicons
Bulkhead befriends a pair of construction vehicles brought to life by AllSpark energy. But the Decepticons have their scanners set on the duo for their latest construction project.

Episode 23: A Fistfull of Energon
Prowl goes off on his own to capture the fugitive Starscream, but finds some competitions in the form of a Decepticon bounty hunter.

Episode 24: S.U.V. - Society of Ultimate Villainy
Aided by a mysterious benefactor, Detroit's B-level villains team up to take down the Autobots once & for all.

Episode 25: Autobot Camp
On the trail of an escaped Autobot traitor, Bumblebee flashes back to a previous encounter with the traitor when he first met Bulkhead in Autobot Boot Camp.

Episode 26: Black Friday
Blackarachnia enlists Prometheus Black - aka Meltdown - to aid her with a dangerous experiment, while Prime & Dinobot Grimlock are forced to team up to stop them.

Episode 27: Sari, No One's Home
Left along in the Autobots' home base, Sari must defend it against an intrusion by the Constructicons.

Episode 28: A Bridge Too Close, Part One
The Decepticons kidnap Bulkhead to aid in Megatron's ultimate plan to take over Cybertron.

Episode 29: A Bridge Too Close, Part Two
The fates of Cybertron & Earth lie in the balance as Optimus Prime & his Autobots battle Megatron & his Decepticons in a fight to the finish.
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Re: Episode 15 & 16 Megatron Rising parts 1&2:

Postby Nekoman » Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:10 am

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shortround wrote:I kept tell everyone that when megatron came back the writers were going to make sure he didn't wipe out the autobots in one episode and this was there way of make sure that didn't happen.

But its not that Megatron wasn’t strong enough, my problem was that he didn’t seem as intelligent as he was before.

Also, I thought the key was supposed fix them completely, how come Bumblebee isn’t sore in the morning after getting his ass fried and then fixed with the key? Wouldn’t he not be in his best shape if it’s the same thing as with Megatron?
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