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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Robinson wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Robinson wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Dozertron wrote:

AutobotScream wrote:A question, when the stasis pods start crashing to earth in the movie, who is the autobot who crashes into the ballpark?
Jazz?

I can only infer that Ironhide lands in the pool, Optimus lands in the open field before he scans the truck passing by, Ratchet of course lands in the shop and scans an emergency vehicle who is dispatched to check on the meteor landing(stasis pod)so...who is it?

Nooo... I thought it was this...

Feild- Prime
Pool- Ironhide
Shop- Jazz
Ball Park- Ratchet

It makes sense since an ambulance is near a ball park. Also, Jazz was seen on top of a car dealership store and there were trees in background since they said there was something in the trees.

Why does it make sence to you that a ambulance would be near a ball park?????

There are usually emergency vehicles stationed at stadiums and some other large venues so that response time is better. Its not to big of a stretch but I think the novel does give a breakdown of who, what, where, when, why, and how.

Not when those stadiums and some other large venues are emty or when there's no event at them.

Even thou the lites were on the stadiums was emty.

The vehicles could be stationed there, the lights could have been on because the event got out earlier in the night. Or they could be stationed nearby.

And the light could have been ont because they were laying new turff.......to many ifs.And we do get a good view of the stadiums sournding area and we dodnt see a single ambulance it the area.As for being nearby.....anything is possible theres one outside my house right now.

But ither way we see Ratchet pull away from where he landed near the shop.The ambulance that drives away from the shop has a Autobot symble on it.

I know who landed where, like I said it tells in the novel. But for those that are still maing assumptions it could go either way. The shot of the stadium is a very far away shot so you can't tell whats in the parking lot realistically.

Robinson wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Robinson wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Robinson wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Dozertron wrote:

AutobotScream wrote:A question, when the stasis pods start crashing to earth in the movie, who is the autobot who crashes into the ballpark?
Jazz?

I can only infer that Ironhide lands in the pool, Optimus lands in the open field before he scans the truck passing by, Ratchet of course lands in the shop and scans an emergency vehicle who is dispatched to check on the meteor landing(stasis pod)so...who is it?

Nooo... I thought it was this...

Feild- Prime
Pool- Ironhide
Shop- Jazz
Ball Park- Ratchet

It makes sense since an ambulance is near a ball park. Also, Jazz was seen on top of a car dealership store and there were trees in background since they said there was something in the trees.

Why does it make sence to you that a ambulance would be near a ball park?????

There are usually emergency vehicles stationed at stadiums and some other large venues so that response time is better. Its not to big of a stretch but I think the novel does give a breakdown of who, what, where, when, why, and how.

Not when those stadiums and some other large venues are emty or when there's no event at them.

Even thou the lites were on the stadiums was emty.

The vehicles could be stationed there, the lights could have been on because the event got out earlier in the night. Or they could be stationed nearby.

And the light could have been ont because they were laying new turff.......to many ifs.And we do get a good view of the stadiums sournding area and we dodnt see a single ambulance it the area.As for being nearby.....anything is possible theres one outside my house right now.

But ither way we see Ratchet pull away from where he landed near the shop.The ambulance that drives away from the shop has a Autobot symble on it.

I know who landed where, like I said it tells in the novel. But for those that are still maing assumptions it could go either way. The shot of the stadium is a very far away shot so you can't tell whats in the parking lot realistically.

It looked emty to me but I guess something could have been off cam.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:It looked emty to me but I guess something could have been off cam.

Or the whole other side of the stadium that you don't see becausee the stadium itself is blocking it.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Dozertron wrote:

AutobotScream wrote:A question, when the stasis pods start crashing to earth in the movie, who is the autobot who crashes into the ballpark?
Jazz?

I can only infer that Ironhide lands in the pool, Optimus lands in the open field before he scans the truck passing by, Ratchet of course lands in the shop and scans an emergency vehicle who is dispatched to check on the meteor landing(stasis pod)so...who is it?

Nooo... I thought it was this...

Feild- Prime
Pool- Ironhide
Shop- Jazz
Ball Park- Ratchet

It makes sense since an ambulance is near a ball park. Also, Jazz was seen on top of a car dealership store and there were trees in background since they said there was something in the trees.

Why does it make sence to you that a ambulance would be near a ball park?????

Because they ALWAYS have an amblulance at a ballpark in case someone gets hurt.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Swerve wrote:

Burn wrote:

Swerve wrote:

Burn wrote:Well there is the glaringly obvious "Ratchet fixed him up".

I hope Ratchet fixes legs better than he does vocalizers. Bumblebee was probably legless for a good couple of months or so.

I bet Bumblebee just grew a pair of legs back because he ate all his vegetables.

There was nothing wrong with BB's vocaliser, it was all psychological trauma that he couldn't deal with until he saw Megatron defeated.

Huh, when did that come up in the movie? Was it disclosed in a an interview or on a special feature? Why didn't they just explain that then?

I think he was joking.

He was. BB got his vocal processers damaged on Cybertron by Megatron.

I always thought it was Ironhide in the field and Prime in the pool. When you look at the pool Autobot as he hides behind the trees, that's more Prime-sized than Ironhide-sized (think of Prime and Ironhide at Sam's house--Prime towers over it, like the pool Autobot towers over the house and trees by the pool, but Ironhide is about the same height as Sam's house or a little shorter). Also, the music really changes to the super-dramatic when the bot comes out of the pool, which makes more sense if it's Optimus than Ironhide. I can't see Ironhide getting a more dramatic intro than Prime.

Of course, I don't have any of the books that people are referring to so I could be off-track here. Does it say specifically in the books who lands in the field and the pool?

iopele wrote:I always thought it was Ironhide in the field and Prime in the pool. When you look at the pool Autobot as he hides behind the trees, that's more Prime-sized than Ironhide-sized (think of Prime and Ironhide at Sam's house--Prime towers over it, like the pool Autobot towers over the house and trees by the pool, but Ironhide is about the same height as Sam's house or a little shorter). Also, the music really changes to the super-dramatic when the bot comes out of the pool, which makes more sense if it's Optimus than Ironhide. I can't see Ironhide getting a more dramatic intro than Prime.

Of course, I don't have any of the books that people are referring to so I could be off-track here. Does it say specifically in the books who lands in the field and the pool?

Forgetting the books if you watch the scene that the robot steps out of the pool.....he first hides behind a tree and the next thing you see is him transforming into the pick up truck witch was in the drive way.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Forgetting the books if you watch the scene that the robot steps out of the pool.....he first hides behind a tree and the next thing you see is him transforming into the pick up truck witch was in the drive way.

Hmm, you're right... and Prime's atop a rather deserted hill/embankment when he scans the semi. Seems odd to me that they gave Ironhide such a big intro instead of Prime, though--the music, the little girl, etc. You'd think the big guy would get all that.

We should mark this day on a calendar somewhere. Iopele is admitting she's wrong!

iopele wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Forgetting the books if you watch the scene that the robot steps out of the pool.....he first hides behind a tree and the next thing you see is him transforming into the pick up truck witch was in the drive way.

Hmm, you're right... and Prime's atop a rather deserted hill/embankment when he scans the semi. Seems odd to me that they gave Ironhide such a big intro instead of Prime, though--the music, the little girl, etc. You'd think the big guy would get all that.

We should mark this day on a calendar somewhere. Iopele is admitting she's wrong!

Sorry to have humbled you

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

iopele wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Forgetting the books if you watch the scene that the robot steps out of the pool.....he first hides behind a tree and the next thing you see is him transforming into the pick up truck witch was in the drive way.

Hmm, you're right... and Prime's atop a rather deserted hill/embankment when he scans the semi. Seems odd to me that they gave Ironhide such a big intro instead of Prime, though--the music, the little girl, etc. You'd think the big guy would get all that.

We should mark this day on a calendar somewhere. Iopele is admitting she's wrong!

Sorry to have humbled you

Wrong, yes. Humbled? Never!

iopele wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

iopele wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Forgetting the books if you watch the scene that the robot steps out of the pool.....he first hides behind a tree and the next thing you see is him transforming into the pick up truck witch was in the drive way.

Hmm, you're right... and Prime's atop a rather deserted hill/embankment when he scans the semi. Seems odd to me that they gave Ironhide such a big intro instead of Prime, though--the music, the little girl, etc. You'd think the big guy would get all that.

We should mark this day on a calendar somewhere. Iopele is admitting she's wrong!

Sorry to have humbled you

Wrong, yes. Humbled? Never!

Has anybody ever thought of this one?

Bumblebee trans-scans the '09 Camaro, and drives up to Sam...but where the hell did the driver go??? Did he teleport into the '77 somehow?

Bluesummers wrote:Has anybody ever thought of this one?

Bumblebee trans-scans the '09 Camaro, and drives up to Sam...but where the hell did the driver go??? Did he teleport into the '77 somehow?

What are you asking?
Bumblebee scaned a new body for himself from the 09 Camaro that drove by.
They dont trade places with the veichles that they scan.
They mimic the appearence of what ever veichle they scan.
The original 09 still had a driver and went on its merry way.

This thread is funny.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Bluesummers wrote:Has anybody ever thought of this one?

Bumblebee trans-scans the '09 Camaro, and drives up to Sam...but where the hell did the driver go??? Did he teleport into the '77 somehow?

What are you asking?
Bumblebee scaned a new body for himself from the 09 Camaro that drove by.
They dont trade places with the veichles that they scan.
They mimic the appearence of what ever veichle they scan.
The original 09 still had a driver and went on its merry way.

Oh...I feel dumb now. For some reason, I was thinking he just transferred his spark into the new vehicle. Not thinking straight...but thanks for clearing that up.

Bluesummers wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Bluesummers wrote:Has anybody ever thought of this one?

Bumblebee trans-scans the '09 Camaro, and drives up to Sam...but where the hell did the driver go??? Did he teleport into the '77 somehow?

What are you asking?
Bumblebee scaned a new body for himself from the 09 Camaro that drove by.
They dont trade places with the veichles that they scan.
They mimic the appearence of what ever veichle they scan.
The original 09 still had a driver and went on its merry way.

Oh...I feel dumb now. For some reason, I was thinking he just transferred his spark into the new vehicle. Not thinking straight...but thanks for clearing that up.

No need to feel dumb.....you just didnt know.Your welcome

I think Ironhide landed in the pool
1:Cuz of the Truck.
2:He needed a softer landing...he is way older than the others.

~Windcharger~ wrote:

Burn wrote:Well there is the glaringly obvious "Ratchet fixed him up".

"Then why couldn't he fix Jazz up huh huh?"

Because Jazz was beyond repair.

Yes folks, sometimes the simplest explanations really do answer the most perplexing of questions.

So Rachet can rebuild legs from scratch, but can't put two pieces of an ally back together?

well think about it this way, can a human survive having his/her legs blown off? Yes, can a human survive being rippen in half? No. There's prolly several vital organs in chest/ waste area for a bot and not to mention being thrown 30ft into a building by a discruntled tank robot and being stepped on by a several ton robot won't help matters.

~Windcharger~ wrote:

Burn wrote:Well there is the glaringly obvious "Ratchet fixed him up".

"Then why couldn't he fix Jazz up huh huh?"

Because Jazz was beyond repair.

Yes folks, sometimes the simplest explanations really do answer the most perplexing of questions.

So Rachet can rebuild legs from scratch, but can't put two pieces of an ally back together?

Can't we humans kinda do that now??

Your legs get hacked off, yeah it sucks but we can make new ones. You get ripped in half, you're dead, nothing you can do.

Edit: Aw, hell he beat me to it....

Mr.Bond007 wrote:

~Windcharger~ wrote:

Burn wrote:Well there is the glaringly obvious "Ratchet fixed him up".

"Then why couldn't he fix Jazz up huh huh?"

Because Jazz was beyond repair.

Yes folks, sometimes the simplest explanations really do answer the most perplexing of questions.

So Rachet can rebuild legs from scratch, but can't put two pieces of an ally back together?

well think about it this way, can a human survive having his/her legs blown off? Yes, can a human survive being rippen in half? No. There's prolly several vital organs in chest/ waste area for a bot and not to mention being thrown 30ft into a building by a discruntled tank robot and being stepped on by a several ton robot won't help matters.

Hypothetically though, Jazz's spark could remain intact despite damage to vital systems. Unless the spark theory has changed, or I just never understood that in a first place. The death of TF's always seemed pretty loosely handled. Looking at G1 Ultra Magnus, Starscream, and eventually Optimus Prime all survived their supposed deaths.

Thanatos Prime wrote:

~Windcharger~ wrote:

Burn wrote:Well there is the glaringly obvious "Ratchet fixed him up".

"Then why couldn't he fix Jazz up huh huh?"

Because Jazz was beyond repair.

Yes folks, sometimes the simplest explanations really do answer the most perplexing of questions.

So Rachet can rebuild legs from scratch, but can't put two pieces of an ally back together?

Can't we humans kinda do that now??

Your legs get hacked off, yeah it sucks but we can make new ones. You get ripped in half, you're dead, nothing you can do.

Edit: Aw, hell he beat me to it....

u forget, 007 is the best marksmen poster

What I want to is how come no one saw frenzy when he came out of the plane!

Frenzy15 wrote:What I want to is how come no one saw frenzy when he came out of the plane!

Because the people who work for the goverment are incompedent

Swerve wrote:The 2008 Camaro is not such a big deal to me. What bothers me is that Megatron's lifeless body is suddenly missing limbs in the final scene.

They broke him up for transport...

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Frenzy15 wrote:What I want to is how come no one saw frenzy when he came out of the plane!

Because the people who work for the goverment are incompedent

You know what's sad? that's more than likely true. I mean, look at Simmons.