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[Redimus]

Wouldn't it be cool if you could select what you want intelligence to target? Like using it to really make decisions in combat? hmmmmm.....

You mean, say, have a dropdown box that gives you the option to target the weakest, or strongest, or those belonging to a certain commander (although this would be open to exploitation if we're nto careful)?

Becuase if so:

HELL
YES
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[Psychout]

Wouldn't it be cool if you could select what you want intelligence to target? Like using it to really make decisions in combat? hmmmmm.....

Targetting people by rank for example? Thats an idea I like.

[Wingspan]

Wouldn't it be cool if you could select what you want intelligence to target? Like using it to really make decisions in combat? hmmmmm.....

Shag me sideways that sounds good.

Edit:

You guys are along the right lines for intelligence eventhough you are putting it within the box of HMW1 attributes.

Well of course we are; you haven't let us into the cookie jar yet.... Wait, we are still using the standard Transformer stats?

One thing it will do that you guys haven't mentioned is decrease your chances of being targeted. Combining that with targeting gives you statistical opportunities to "outsmart" opponents. Attributes and their functions will be listed in more detail when the preview is given.

Equally brilliant - here's your Guinness.


Sorry about the edit though; controlled targeting got me so excited I had to express my love interest in OS before continuing.

[Omega Sentinel]

Wouldn't it be cool if you could select what you want intelligence to target? Like using it to really make decisions in combat? hmmmmm.....

Shag me sideways that sounds good.

Good. You all may feel that way about a lot of things.

[Loki God Of Mischief]

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[Burn]

Wouldn't it be cool if you could select what you want intelligence to target? Like using it to really make decisions in combat? hmmmmm.....

Provided you can't target specific bots.

Because I could see a bunch of people ganging up and constantly targetting one player, good way to hold them down.

[Loki God Of Mischief]

Wouldn't it be cool if you could select what you want intelligence to target? Like using it to really make decisions in combat? hmmmmm.....

Provided you can't target specific bots.

Because I could see a bunch of people ganging up and constantly targetting one player, good way to hold them down.

What if it was set to eliminate targets with lower hit points first? Because a real army would try to eliminate the other side efficiently if possible. Actually now that I think about it, it should also factor that versus who's being a greater threat so it can't be exploited by the other side as easily.

[Psychout]

Wouldn't it be cool if you could select what you want intelligence to target? Like using it to really make decisions in combat? hmmmmm.....

Provided you can't target specific bots.

Because I could see a bunch of people ganging up and constantly targetting one player, good way to hold them down.

What if the targeted player equips counter attack, and can rake in a fortune from avoiding the onslaught?

Wouldn't that work?

[neliz]

What if the targeted player equips counter attack, and can rake in a fortune from avoiding the onslaught?

Wouldn't that work?

I thought we were playing HMW not Hearts of Iron?

Encircle, Bait, Counterattack, tactical retreat.

All tactical mindsets that could be set by a SQUAD COMMANDER before a battle and it would seriously impact overall performance of the team on the field.

[Psychout]

Isnt that the point?

Not being able to target specific minions just 'in-case' people decide to gang up on one person is no reason to leave it out of the game. May as well leave the guns out of it as well in case people's minions get hurt in that case.

If there is a way to neutralise the tactic then what's the problem?

[neliz]

ganging up and shutting out a specific bot would essentially kill any cross-faction tournament.

[Loki God Of Mischief]

No it wouldn't. It would actually promote rivalries and inter faction participation. You can't possibly tell me that you, Den-O and some of your buddies didn't want to be able to specifically target me when I was trying to have a rivalry with Denny. Or if Burn ever accepts my challenge at a friendly rivalry. Honestly the only reason I'm not pursuing that option is I like Burn. And the last time I tried to have a rival in another hemisphere it didn't work out well. But the opportunity to target certain players and bots would only improve the community.

[neliz]

No it wouldn't. It would actually promote rivalries and inter faction participation. You can't possibly tell me that you, Den-O and some of your buddies didn't want to be able to specifically target me when I was trying to have a rivalry with Denny.

No, I asked every Autobot I knew to avoid Pred missions for a week and not share our XP with you.

[Psychout]

ganging up and shutting out a specific bot would essentially kill any cross-faction tournament.

We have no idea of how effective this skill is likely to be, if it is indeed added, and to just assume that it will 'kill' off competition is overly dramatic.
Sure, a bunch of people can gang up on someone who's pissed them off, but there will be bigger things in HMW 2 to worry about.

Too much emphasis is being put on what is, essentially, a targeting array for your bots.

[Redimus]

No it wouldn't. It would actually promote rivalries and inter faction participation. You can't possibly tell me that you, Den-O and some of your buddies didn't want to be able to specifically target me when I was trying to have a rivalry with Denny.

No, I asked every Autobot I knew to avoid Pred missions for a week and not share our XP with you.

Well judging by my missions right now, you failed epicly there...

[neliz]

Well judging by my missions right now, you failed epicly there...

*sigh*

that's last months news, it's pretty clear that that situation was closed.

[Burn]

Simple solution to the targetting thing would be to NOT target specific bots (eg, Nemesis Wheelie) but rather target bots with specific traits (high speed, low courage, high strength etc).

After all, you want to take out the toughest bot? If everyone decides to target Nemesis Wheelie who has high courage, high strength etc, that's all well and good, but there could be a couple of other bots with similar configurations who could be just as dangerous of a threat.

It would also cut down on animosity which you know would be generated when someone starts going "wah wah wah my bots are being targetted all the time".

[Psychout]

I see your point, but disagree on the fundamentals.

Nemesis Wheelie's opponents can target him all they want, that still leaves me with 11(+?) minions to hit them back with (some of which may even be in the same mission.)

Whilst I agree it would be of equal benefit to use the planned V1-style of targeting the enemy with the biggest vulnerabilities/highest xp value, for any alt/scalp hunts and the pro bounty hunters, targeting a specific bot, as well as characteristic, would be both fitting for the theme and a good addition.

Besides, if they are wasting all their ammo blowing the crap out of Nemesis Wheelie, it just means the rest of the mission squad can just use him as bait for an ambush.

We are still theorizing here as you guys know as much about this as I do, I just don't want to totally discount the idea of targeting a specific bot, yet.

[Omega Sentinel]

Targetting won't be specific enough to target certain people. The goal of the new game is to offer more variety while remaining simple. Targetting choice will be selected from a higher level of options.

[Psychout]

Ok. Now I'm ready to discount the possibility.

[Me, Grimlock!]

Targetting won't be specific enough to target certain people. The goal of the new game is to offer more variety while remaining simple. Targetting choice will be selected from a higher level of options.

I wouldn't think so, since you'd have to specify this each time you enter a mission. Instead if you just have options saying "those with most rank, those with most stamina, those with best kill rate, those with worst stats, those with most experience, those of highest level," etc. you can just leave it and change it whenever you feel the need.

i dunno M,g, it just seemed rather good way of making something a little self balancing, but yeah it's their reputation or something.

I think you may have something there.

[Wingspan]

Targetting won't be specific enough to target certain people. The goal of the new game is to offer more variety while remaining simple. Targetting choice will be selected from a higher level of options.

Ok. Now I'm ready to discount the possibility.

Well, glad that's closed.

i dunno M,g, it just seemed rather good way of making something a little self balancing, but yeah it's their reputation or something.

I think you may have something there.

Seconded. Doing well relative to your faction should make you stand out to the opposition.

Should there be some form of benefit as well? E.g. more like to be targeted with repair (which I believe was mentioned) or some other defensive / offensive balance? Something like this could be made advantageous with things like counterattacks.

On to new business, is the V2 alt-mode list still going to be valid? Don't mean to spoil too much fun by digging up old-news, but couldn't hurt to ask.

Any chance of getting a reply to this though?

[Omega Sentinel]

On to new business, is the V2 alt-mode list still going to be valid? Don't mean to spoil too much fun by digging up old-news, but couldn't hurt to ask.

Any chance of getting a reply to this though?

Nope

Alt modes won't just be selected from a list like they are now. There will be enough alt modes in the game to gag you but the alt mode system itself is going to play out more like what you see in the Transformers Movie and Animated.

[Wingspan]

Nope

Alt modes won't just be selected from a list like they are now. There will be enough alt modes in the game to gag you but the alt mode system itself is going to play out more like what you see in the Transformers Movie and Animated.

Well right back-atcha.

Will resetting / rescanning still be part of upgrade strategy?

[neliz]

are we getting "stances" in the game? like, bots being on an attacking stance suffer more damage but will be able to attack more often and vice versa? "guarding" for catching blows to other team-mates for high endurance players etc?