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Alot of people think the fallen will be present in TF2 or 3. I disagree. I think that its going to far. After all, they would also most likely introduce Unicron as well. And I just can't see that happening. More than likely those trademark apps will be for Universe 2.0 toys. But what do you guys think?

WHAT!? What do you mean??

I just think its too early for Unicron and The Fallen. I mean we just got 30 ft tall transformers. I don't think they're already gonna introduce a planet sized robot.

I think either of the 2 is unlikely.

What??? WTF is the Fallen??

Sweet doughnutting Primus, I hope not. That goes for both of them. Unicron's imposing enough on the SMALL screen, thanks. I doubt the big screen could handle that much epic hugeness.

Coolyfett wrote:What??? WTF is the Fallen??

http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Fallen

Night Raid wrote:Sweet doughnutting Primus, I hope not. That goes for both of them. Unicron's imposing enough on the SMALL screen, thanks. I doubt the big screen could handle that much epic hugeness.

Why? After all he was originally created for the Movie, you know the first one from 1986.

Night Raid wrote:Sweet doughnutting Primus, I hope not. That goes for both of them. Unicron's imposing enough on the SMALL screen, thanks. I doubt the big screen could handle that much epic hugeness.

Exaxtly. Plus, they were created by the allspark. Not by Primus. So hopefully there'll be no Unicron. And it would also be kinda wierd.

Sam: Oh my god Optimus! What the hell is that?
Optimus: Oh yeah. Thats Unicron. He eats planets, and is probably here to eat yours. Did I forget to mention him?
Mikaela: Damn right you did!

Dead Metal wrote:

Coolyfett wrote:What??? WTF is the Fallen??

http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Fallen

Night Raid wrote:Sweet doughnutting Primus, I hope not. That goes for both of them. Unicron's imposing enough on the SMALL screen, thanks. I doubt the big screen could handle that much epic hugeness.

Why? After all he was originally created for the Movie, you know the first one from 1986.

Never heard of him. That thing in not important. Please speak of important people. Thank you for your time.

Coolyfett wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Coolyfett wrote:What??? WTF is the Fallen??

http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Fallen

Night Raid wrote:Sweet doughnutting Primus, I hope not. That goes for both of them. Unicron's imposing enough on the SMALL screen, thanks. I doubt the big screen could handle that much epic hugeness.

Why? After all he was originally created for the Movie, you know the first one from 1986.

Never heard of him. That thing in not important. Please speak of important people. Thank you for your time.

Ok....

Well, Hasbro already tradmarked the phrase "Revenge of the Fallen", and seeing as how TFA isn't going to have a fallen angel from hell type char anytime soon and classics 2.0 has no media to go with it, I think the Fallen will be making an apearance in TF2. He doen't need Unicron to be insanely overpowered or crazy to G1 Galvatron-like levels.

Coolyfett wrote:Never heard of him. That thing in not important. Please speak of important people. Thank you for your time.

The Fallen is an important part of TF lore for a lot of people, just like Unicron or Primus.

Just because you never heard of him it doesn't make him unimportant.
Maybe you should lower your ego just a little bit.
Grow up a little bit and accept that other people have opinions too.

I remember a post on this site or another where Bay said he would like to do Unicron. He also said that Transformers is intended to be a Trilogy, but he would be willing to make more sequels depending on how well Transformers 2 & 3 do, even if he had to make Transformers 20.

I think Transformers 2 may be a lil early to introduce Unicron but I would love to see him in one of the sequels. I think everyone here would agree that Transformers will make it past 2 sequels...... We hope anyway

DavidT wrote:I think Transformers 2 may be a lil early to introduce Unicron but I would love to see him in one of the sequels. I think everyone here would agree that Transformers will make it past 2 sequels...... We hope anyway

It should. But the big question is whether or not Bay will screw up the third installment as badly as Rami did the third Spidey.

But if this franchise successfully reaches three movies they need to be careful about who they introduce and keep using.
The Fallen could easily make two movies, maybe even using Unicron in one. But if they introduce them they need to be able to complete the stories without rushing them, like Rami did with venom.

there is no successful way or portraying a planet size creature in a live action movie or do i need to remind everyone about the feasco that was Galactus from rise of the silver surfer

Temper360 wrote:there is no successful way or portraying a planet size creature in a live action movie or do i need to remind everyone about the feasco that was Galactus from rise of the silver surfer

I agree about Galactus but the Death Star in Star Wars looked pretty awesome, even for it's time. CGI has come a long way and has gotten even better since Transformers came out last year.

God Rodimus wrote:

Coolyfett wrote:Never heard of him. That thing in not important. Please speak of important people. Thank you for your time.

The Fallen is an important part of TF lore for a lot of people, just like Unicron or Primus.

Just because you never heard of him it doesn't make him unimportant.
Maybe you should lower your ego just a little bit.
Grow up a little bit and accept that other people have opinions too.

Dude before you fall off your rocker, The OP didn't state an opinion he mentioned an unfamiliar name. I've watched all the G1 dvds never heard of that thing. I know who Unicron is he was in TFM. Maybe they should put Fallout in TF2 then it will finally be worthy of my acknowledgment. Peace to JesWel.

DavidT wrote:

Temper360 wrote:there is no successful way or portraying a planet size creature in a live action movie or do i need to remind everyone about the feasco that was Galactus from rise of the silver surfer

I agree about Galactus but the Death Star in Star Wars looked pretty awesome, even for it's time. CGI has come a long way and has gotten even better since Transformers came out last year.

True But still do you really feel that may be risking a great character over a few minutes of WOW effects.

Coolyfett wrote:Maybe they should put Fallout in TF2 then it will finally be worthy of my acknowledgment.

Worthy of your acknowledgment?? Who the hell do you think you are where you think something has to be included in a movie to worthy of anything of you?

Seriously, I can fully accept that you never heard of The Fallen, but are actually going to present yourself as so important that it needs to be presented in a movie in order to be accepted by you?
Jeez man, calm the ego down and read a TF comic. Maybe then you will see that The Fallen exists in a world outside of your own and that other people have enough knowledge of the character to want him in the movie.

Temper360 wrote:

DavidT wrote:

Temper360 wrote:there is no successful way or portraying a planet size creature in a live action movie or do i need to remind everyone about the feasco that was Galactus from rise of the silver surfer

I agree about Galactus but the Death Star in Star Wars looked pretty awesome, even for it's time. CGI has come a long way and has gotten even better since Transformers came out last year.

True But still do you really feel that may be risking a great character over a few minutes of WOW effects.

Well my reply to that is.....


Unicron became one of the most famous and popular transformers by appearing the 1986 movie which was less than 1 1/2 hours long. We didn't even see his transformation until the end of the movie. Then after a few minutes was destroyed. Yet he's almost god-like within the Transfandom.

In Bay's films though. I think it would be better for him to end Transformers 2, forshadowing the arrival of Unicron or doing something like a cliffhanger at the end. Then, in Transformers 3 make the whole 2 1/2 hour movie about him. If Bay decides not to pursue any future Transformers movies after 3 then that would be the perfect ending of a trilogy.

So YES....I feel it would be worth the risk, if done properly

It does sound good in that way but like ii said if the do put the fallen int 2 they would most certianly have to put unicron in 3. that way they can devote a full alotment of time to just that villian and that problem of defeating them.

DavidT wrote:
Well my reply to that is.....


Unicron became one of the most famous and popular transformers by appearing the 1986 movie which was less than 1 1/2 hours long. We didn't even see his transformation until the end of the movie. Then after a few minutes was destroyed. Yet he's almost god-like within the Transfandom.

In Bay's films though. I think it would be better for him to end Transformers 2, forshadowing the arrival of Unicron or doing something like a cliffhanger at the end. Then, in Transformers 3 make the whole 2 1/2 hour movie about him. If Bay decides not to pursue any future Transformers movies after 3 then that would be the perfect ending of a trilogy.

So YES....I feel it would be worth the risk, if done properly

Yes that's they way I would like it!
Start of TF2 with just Cons and Bots killing each other, then introduce The Fallen half way through, let the Cons and bots remember the legend of Unicron.
Then near the end let the Fallen battle both Cons and Bots, who have now joined forces, end it with the arival of Unicron, let this dialog happen:

JesWal wrote:Sam: Oh my god Optimus! What the hell is that?
Optimus: Oh yeah. Thats Unicron. He eats planets, and is probably here to eat yours. Did I forget to mention him?
Mikaela: Damn right you did!

Just for the lulz.
Then let Unicron Transform half way in TF3, would be worth just for the Transformation!

God Rodimus wrote:

DavidT wrote:I think Transformers 2 may be a lil early to introduce Unicron but I would love to see him in one of the sequels. I think everyone here would agree that Transformers will make it past 2 sequels...... We hope anyway

It should. But the big question is whether or not Bay will screw up the third installment as badly as Rami did the third Spidey.

I don't think that's the big question. I think TF1 was far more screwed up than any Spiderman film.

I rather hope they leave 'The Fallen' way out of any movie. I never liked the idea.

Coolyfett wrote:

God Rodimus wrote:

Coolyfett wrote:Never heard of him. That thing in not important. Please speak of important people. Thank you for your time.

The Fallen is an important part of TF lore for a lot of people, just like Unicron or Primus.

Just because you never heard of him it doesn't make him unimportant.
Maybe you should lower your ego just a little bit.
Grow up a little bit and accept that other people have opinions too.

Dude before you fall off your rocker, The OP didn't state an opinion he mentioned an unfamiliar name. I've watched all the G1 dvds never heard of that thing. I know who Unicron is he was in TFM. Maybe they should put Fallout in TF2 then it will finally be worthy of my acknowledgment. Peace to JesWel.

No offense, but it's JesWal. Peace to you to mate.

God Rodimus wrote:

Coolyfett wrote:Maybe they should put Fallout in TF2 then it will finally be worthy of my acknowledgment.

Worthy of your acknowledgment?? Who the hell do you think you are where you think something has to be included in a movie to worthy of anything of you?

"Who the hell do you think you are"

I'm Coolyfett

"where you think something has to be included in a movie to worthy of anything of you?"


HUH? to worthy of anything of me? Huh?

TF2 is going to be awesome.