The Energon Pub

Rated X wrote:I just don't see it. The bird head eliminates the signature flat stomach of fembots. And the boots are pretty chunky.

people are gonna see what they see. but im with ya. still looks like a dude to me.

Pictures from my review of LER-01 (Lost Exo Realm) Columpio w/ Drepan. Full review can be found below











Full Review
http://blackplasticlife.blogspot.com/2014/09/fansproject-ler-01-columpio-w-drepan.html

Isnt there supposed to be a tfcon in october ? When are we gonna see some images of the blue diaclone slag ? I dont see it selling as well as the first one. People were duped into thinking they were going to get something G1ish for all 5. I didnt even know diaclone slag was blue. I thought just swoop.

Rated X wrote:Isnt there supposed to be a tfcon in october ? When are we gonna see some images of the blue diaclone slag ? I dont see it selling as well as the first one. People were duped into thinking they were going to get something G1ish for all 5. I didnt even know diaclone slag was blue. I thought just swoop.

yeah. all of them are different besides sludge.

grimlock is blue. swoop is blue. snarl is black. slag is blue.
and sludge is red...

shajaki wrote:

Rated X wrote:Isnt there supposed to be a tfcon in october ? When are we gonna see some images of the blue diaclone slag ? I dont see it selling as well as the first one. People were duped into thinking they were going to get something G1ish for all 5. I didnt even know diaclone slag was blue. I thought just swoop.

yeah. all of them are different besides sludge.

grimlock is blue. swoop is blue. snarl is black. slag is blue.
and sludge is red...

Damn, they don't look so great. I like blue swoop because of the cartoon, but not really digging the others. I think FP released the G1 looking one (Sludge) first because they knew the other exclusives would get less sales. Based on the assumption that nobody knew the other Diaclone decos, they would buy Sludge thinking "Diaclone" just meant chrome and metallic paint in normal G1 colors.

These G1 diaclone Dinobots looks sweet. esp that swoop!

mooncake623 wrote:These G1 diaclone Dinobots looks sweet. esp that swoop!

I normally love Diaclone and E-Hobby recolors. I have a whole classics shelf dedicated to them including many customs. But the thing about these dinobots is they're different from G1, but not different enough. A little chrome and a torso color change doesn't seem to warrant double dipping or the crazy prices. I would buy G2 colored FP Dinobots in a heartbeat even at convention prices. Chrome and a different color torso, meh...

Rated X wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:These G1 diaclone Dinobots looks sweet. esp that swoop!

I normally love Diaclone and E-Hobby recolors. I have a whole classics shelf dedicated to them including many customs. But the thing about these dinobots is they're different from G1, but not different enough. A little chrome and a torso color change doesn't seem to warrant double dipping or the crazy prices. I would buy G2 colored FP Dinobots in a heartbeat even at convention prices. Chrome and a different color torso, meh...

Oh no i wouldn't buy the FP diaclone versions either. I want those G1 Diaclone dinobots!! Wonder how much those goes for.

Rated X wrote:I think FP released the G1 looking one (Sludge) first because they knew the other exclusives would get less sales. Based on the assumption that nobody knew the other Diaclone decos, they would buy Sludge thinking "Diaclone" just meant chrome and metallic paint in normal G1 colors.

yup. s'how they got me.

Andddddd I'm done with this line. Finally opened Sludge this weekend and wow are those Ball jointed hips and shoulders terrible.. wow... lol Are you **** kidding me? They are loose as hell. you can still stand and pose him (with some time and patience) and he still looks awesome but wow that is just terrible. Plastic quality don't feel the same either it's not bad but I expected better. Oh yea and also mines came without dino mode eyes! WTF? really disappointed.

What does everyone else think? Are you guys happy with yours?

Hmm, this is weird. FP are usually known for pretty good quality (my Bruticus set aside, mutter mutter). I can only assume that either there's been a defective batch or there's been a huge amount of bootlegs in circulation (like what happened with City Commander). All reviews of the Diaclone version seem to show decently tight joints, so maybe some kind of tolerance issues caused this.

So, it's missing an eye or something? Mine has red translucent eyes. Was it supposed to be something else?

I'm discovering that there appears to be some variance in the tightness of the joints. Mine is just fine. Not overly tight, to be sure. Some playing around and they will likely loosen up quickly. But everything on the one I have is good. Maybe the only complaint I have is the fist hiding panel on the forearm doesn't lock in as nicely as I would like. Overall I am very happy with my Columpio....

Delta Magnus wrote:Hmm, this is weird. FP are usually known for pretty good quality (my Bruticus set aside, mutter mutter).I can only assume that either there's been a defective batch or there's been a huge amount of bootlegs in circulation (like what happened with City Commander).

Yea I don't think so. You give Fansproject too much credit. This came from BBTS.

Delta Magnus wrote: All reviews of the Diaclone version seem to show decently tight joints, so maybe some kind of tolerance issues caused this.

All sponsored reviews, believe at your own risk. Do you have yours in-hand? Let me know what you think when you do.

Agamemnon wrote:So, it's missing an eye or something? Mine has red translucent eyes. Was it supposed to be something else?

I'm discovering that there appears to be some variance in the tightness of the joints. Mine is just fine. Not overly tight, to be sure. Some playing around and they will likely loosen up quickly. But everything on the one I have is good. Maybe the only complaint I have is the fist hiding panel on the forearm doesn't lock in as nicely as I would like. Overall I am very happy with my Columpio....

Yea it is missing the red translucent eyes.

oh yea I forgot about the forarm panels that doesn't lock in place!! Also he can't hold his weapons tightly? am I doing something wrong?
I sure some will have tighter ones than the one have.. but Really Ball Joints on a pretty heavy figure? Even on the tighter ones out there it will be a floppy mess over time.

Delta Magnus wrote:Hmm, this is weird. FP are usually known for pretty good quality (my Bruticus set aside, mutter mutter). I can only assume that either there's been a defective batch or there's been a huge amount of bootlegs in circulation (like what happened with City Commander). All reviews of the Diaclone version seem to show decently tight joints, so maybe some kind of tolerance issues caused this.

same. i can only speak for the diaclone version, but its tight and sound. strange to hear their sludge has so many QC problems.

hopefully theyre aware of the issues and double their efforts on slag.

I'm happy with him, but it's true - those ball joints are pretty damned loose. So are the weapons when being held. I do still plan on getting the entire line because the loose joints aren't enough for me to jump off board on it.

Also, yeah, you're missing some light piping there.

I still like him cause he looks pretty sweet in both modes but its just very disappointing for a $105 figure from Fansproject. Transformation is simple as hell to.. what are they doing trying to imitate Hasbro's simplify transformations? I'm jumping off because I don't really like their slag and swoop anyway. I need to see reviews from people that aren't sponsored. These guys are terrible and just an over glorified commercial these days. I remember the days when I can trust these guys to tell me what they really think or at least point out some real issues. I don't blame them though, they are in a sweet situation shouldn't expect them jeopardize that with a bad review.

mooncake623 wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:So, it's missing an eye or something? Mine has red translucent eyes. Was it supposed to be something else?

I'm discovering that there appears to be some variance in the tightness of the joints. Mine is just fine. Not overly tight, to be sure. Some playing around and they will likely loosen up quickly. But everything on the one I have is good. Maybe the only complaint I have is the fist hiding panel on the forearm doesn't lock in as nicely as I would like. Overall I am very happy with my Columpio....

Yea it is missing the red translucent eyes.

oh yea I forgot about the forarm panels that doesn't lock in place!! Also he can't hold his weapons tightly? am I doing something wrong?
I sure some will have tighter ones than the one have.. but Really Ball Joints on a pretty heavy figure? Even on the tighter ones out there it will be a floppy mess over time.

Sounds like you got a dud. My Sludge has nice tight dino legs and both red translucent eyes. Im very happy with this line so far as I await Slag. Hope ypu bought from BBTS, don't hesitate to ask for an exchange. They have great customer service and will take care of you.

Rated X wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:So, it's missing an eye or something? Mine has red translucent eyes. Was it supposed to be something else?

I'm discovering that there appears to be some variance in the tightness of the joints. Mine is just fine. Not overly tight, to be sure. Some playing around and they will likely loosen up quickly. But everything on the one I have is good. Maybe the only complaint I have is the fist hiding panel on the forearm doesn't lock in as nicely as I would like. Overall I am very happy with my Columpio....

Yea it is missing the red translucent eyes.

oh yea I forgot about the forarm panels that doesn't lock in place!! Also he can't hold his weapons tightly? am I doing something wrong?
I sure some will have tighter ones than the one have.. but Really Ball Joints on a pretty heavy figure? Even on the tighter ones out there it will be a floppy mess over time.

Sounds like you got a dud. My Sludge has nice tight dino legs and both red translucent eyes. Im very happy with this line so far as I await Slag. Hope ypu bought from BBTS, don't hesitate to ask for an exchange. They have great customer service and will take care of you.

I did get it from BBTS. I was just going to ask for a new Dino head since i thought they will all have the same loose joints. But if I'm the only one I'll ask for a replacement.

Mine has some looseness in the joints, but not so bad as to warrant me sending it back.

But I agree, I do expect better QC from FP.
Also the weapon guy was lame with the handle sticking off his back.

But my overall experience was very good.
I love the design and size. It was good enough that I cancelled the PX version of Sludge and preordered the FP Slag.

I don't think a more complicated transformation would be beneficial. What could be gained from making it complicated just for the sake of making it complicated? The tail HAS to form the legs, the front dino legs HAVE to form the robot arms ... sometimes a look defined what can be done with a transformation.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I don't think a more complicated transformation would be beneficial. What could be gained from making it complicated just for the sake of making it complicated? The tail HAS to form the legs, the front dino legs HAVE to form the robot arms ... sometimes a look defined what can be done with a transformation.

I'm not asking for a more complicated transformation. I'm asking for a more "satisfying?" Transformation? Not sure what or if anything can be done but it felt meh, Dino tail could have been articulated. Something about this reminds me of the Igear upsize minibots.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I don't think a more complicated transformation would be beneficial. What could be gained from making it complicated just for the sake of making it complicated? The tail HAS to form the legs, the front dino legs HAVE to form the robot arms ... sometimes a look defined what can be done with a transformation.

Agreed. Besides the lame ax minicon, my only isssue is that the gun handle is a bit thin and holds very loosly. They should have just went with the standard peg. Lately, alot of 3rd party wealons with non standard handles have either been too loose or too tight. But the figure itself is awesome.

mooncake623 wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I don't think a more complicated transformation would be beneficial. What could be gained from making it complicated just for the sake of making it complicated? The tail HAS to form the legs, the front dino legs HAVE to form the robot arms ... sometimes a look defined what can be done with a transformation.

I'm not asking for a more complicated transformation. I'm asking for a more "satisfying?" Transformation? Not sure what or if anything can be done but it felt meh, Dino tail could have been articulated. Something about this reminds me of the Igear upsize minibots.

Could the dino tail have been articulated? Really? I honestly don't see how it could have been, and I'm not sure it would have been worth whatever the added cost was.

I can sorta see what you mean. It's straight forward and very close to the G1 transformation. But, as opposed to what? And to what effect? The proportions are all there and it has the right look (no need for cheats). Unless there's a point a complicated transformation can become a detriment.

From what I've seen, the weapon mini-con isn't amazing, but he's passable. More weapons is always good, and mini-cons don't really need to do much.

The toy looks amazing, but I'll reserve judgement until I see more reviews. Vangelus and Peaugh did pretty good reviews (and neither of their samples seemed to have loose joints- it's not like they could fake that **** after all, especially not with Vangelus's legendary "Tetra-Jet Test") but they had the Diaclone figures with metallic paint and chrome. The reason I bring this up is because paint and chrome, even very thin amounts, can heavily change joint tolerances, often resulting in a much too tight figure (see the KO chromed Seekers). Thus FP might have adjusted the mold with the chrome and paint in mind, then when it came to the "normal" figure the adjustments resulted in a floppy figure.

But hey, that's just a theory- a toy theory!