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I wish they would make a devastator. maybe they will make new Dinobots, I would love to see Swoop done by them .

I'm hoping for any of the companies, (hopefully FP), to do the Horrorcons. Apeface and Snapdragon are badass.

zodconvoy wrote:Does anyone else get the feeling that the Classics 3-Pack coming out a few months (hopefully) before the Protector might be Hasbro realizing the cross market sales? It seems like a mighty huge coincidence that they reissue a now 4 year old mold for no apparent reason at this time.

I don't think so at all. That three pack is to commemorate the movie, just like Takara's 2010 Campaign. It is a lucky break for those without a Rodimus mold, but Hasbro isn't going to do anything to work *with* a third party company. We're lucky they allow them to exist at all.

Hello to all,

I would like to know if the Protector Armour can be used with the Animated Rodimus or is it just for the Classics/Henkei?

Thanks

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just classics/henkei. the animated rodimus is an entirely different mold and the protector armor is made only for the classics mold

ok, thanks for the quick reply

has anyone notice the new "roller" sticking out from the bottom of the gun stand?

So is the Challenge At Cybertron 3 pack actually bieng slated for a us release, or should i just order online?

zodconvoy wrote:Does anyone else get the feeling that the Classics 3-Pack coming out a few months (hopefully) before the Protector might be Hasbro realizing the cross market sales? It seems like a mighty huge coincidence that they reissue a now 4 year old mold for no apparent reason at this time.

I hope so. Partially because it would mean there's a (slim) chance of a reissue of Ultra Magnus at some point. I wanted that guy BEFORE the CC came out, but back then a certain Seeker was driving up his price.

Razorclaw0000 wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:Does anyone else get the feeling that the Classics 3-Pack coming out a few months (hopefully) before the Protector might be Hasbro realizing the cross market sales? It seems like a mighty huge coincidence that they reissue a now 4 year old mold for no apparent reason at this time.

I don't think so at all. That three pack is to commemorate the movie, just like Takara's 2010 Campaign. It is a lucky break for those without a Rodimus mold, but Hasbro isn't going to do anything to work *with* a third party company. We're lucky they allow them to exist at all.

In all fairness, Zodconvoy isn't saying that Hasbro is actually working *with* FansProject. And he might be onto something.

Sure, Hasbro could give FP the smackdown if they really, really wanted to, but instead, why not exploit what FP's doing? Obviously, their products are driving up a demand for Hasbro/TakaraTomy product, and if they "reissue" the figures, people will buy them.

Some collectors buy multiples for various reasons, which is even more money in their pockets.

If I was running Hasbro and I wasn't seeking legal action against them, I'd most certainly find a way to make the situation work in my favor. I'd rerelease figures by the boatload so people could buy them up.

Here's food for thought: If I were running Hasbro and I decided to crush iGear, FansProject, Impossible Toys, etc into the ground, I'd be vilified by the fan community for taking away one of their most precious resources. However, instead of going to that kind of trouble, taking a chance on spending way too much money in legal battles, and alienating the fans... what if I could make a quick buck out of the situation? That would work out better in the long run, for all involved.

Hasbro's more about making the money, rather than protecting their IP, otherwise they'd have done so long before this. Now, I'll admit, the bootlegs (G1) and the iGear stuff such as Faith Leader are definitely crossing the line, in terms of legal matters (I'm not looking at it from a moral standpoint, have to say that before someone comes out and says I'm a hypocrite) but obviously they're not as serious about protecting IP as they claimed, otherwise we'd have heard about FP and the like getting cease and desist letters, etc.

They'd be crazy not to cash in on this. Hasbro's not in secret backdoor dealings with FP and other 3rd parties, but them exploiting it is certainly feasible and not impossible.

To say it is, doesn't make it so.

Autobot032 wrote:Sure, Hasbro could give FP the smackdown if they really, really wanted to, but instead, why not exploit what FP's doing? Obviously, their products are driving up a demand for Hasbro/TakaraTomy product, and if they "reissue" the figures, people will buy them.

It makes sense, but the one problem I see is Hasbro's distribution.

For them to put the figures out there they have to mass market it whereas FP really only online stores.

Has there been confirmation that the three pack will see a US release? If not, that might be part of their ploy. Western collectors will want the armour, and they'll want Rodimus to go with it. Release it in the Asian market then collectors will have to rely on importing and Hasbro won't need to worry about a western distribution.

heh ... it actually is quite a good ploy IF they were up to that.

turkishproverb wrote:

zodconvoy wrote:Does anyone else get the feeling that the Classics 3-Pack coming out a few months (hopefully) before the Protector might be Hasbro realizing the cross market sales? It seems like a mighty huge coincidence that they reissue a now 4 year old mold for no apparent reason at this time.

I hope so. Partially because it would mean there's a (slim) chance of a reissue of Ultra Magnus at some point. I wanted that guy BEFORE the CC came out, but back then a certain Seeker was driving up his price.

I doubt we'll see Classics' UM again. When it was initially released, the real selling point was Skywarp. The CC armour was an inevitable cause of UM star rising on ebay due to it's impending release. Even though the '86 movie had UM in it, he was released as a toy way before the movie. As I recall he came out with the Scramble City giftsets. In fact I know I saw him when I picked up Smokescreen in late '85 right before Christmas. I didn't see the other '86 Movie characters until 1986.