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First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:44 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Why are other countries getting figures that are US exclusives first? I remember a few years ago reading that Hasbro felt the Asian market was stronger and frankly bought Transformers more but is that still a thing? If Draculus is ready to go I really hope the ship date gets pushed up so some of us have it in hand by Halloween.


Where it is stated that there's any figures made to be specifically "US" exclusive? I don't think that was ever a thing.


I'm sorry I didn't make my post clearer. I meant figures that are exclusive to US stores and not part of mainline retail in the US. It appears that some figures, possibly Draculus are going to see a wide release and not be tied to one store internationally. I know Takara is doing that with some Kingdom figures.
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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby Burn » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:44 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Why are other countries getting figures that are US exclusives first? I remember a few years ago reading that Hasbro felt the Asian market was stronger and frankly bought Transformers more but is that still a thing? If Draculus is ready to go I really hope the ship date gets pushed up so some of us have it in hand by Halloween.


Where it is stated that there's any figures made to be specifically "US" exclusive? I don't think that was ever a thing.


I'm sorry I didn't make my post clearer. I meant figures that are exclusive to US stores and not part of mainline retail in the US. It appears that some figures, possibly Draculus are going to see a wide release and not be tied to one store internationally. I know Takara is doing that with some Kingdom figures.

Being exclusive to a particular store in the US doesn't mean it's not going to go elsewhere in the world. A lot of Selects figures are only available in Australia via EB Games/Zing (there are other online retailers who stock them but they don't get them directly from Hasbro).

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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

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Same thing in Canada. Only figures that are truly "'MERICA, FOK YEAH!" exclusives are Hasbro Pulse exclusives. Sure's there's Pulse UK, but the fact that most people in the world must import those exclusives at extremely high cost is a dealbreaker for most figures.
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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:23 am

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King Kong is more preferably made from Optimus Primal.


Hmm, what makes you think that?

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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:57 am

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Why are other countries getting figures that are US exclusives first? I remember a few years ago reading that Hasbro felt the Asian market was stronger and frankly bought Transformers more but is that still a thing? If Draculus is ready to go I really hope the ship date gets pushed up so some of us have it in hand by Halloween.


Where it is stated that there's any figures made to be specifically "US" exclusive? I don't think that was ever a thing.


I'm sorry I didn't make my post clearer. I meant figures that are exclusive to US stores and not part of mainline retail in the US. It appears that some figures, possibly Draculus are going to see a wide release and not be tied to one store internationally. I know Takara is doing that with some Kingdom figures.

Being exclusive to a particular store in the US doesn't mean it's not going to go elsewhere in the world. A lot of Selects figures are only available in Australia via EB Games/Zing (there are other online retailers who stock them but they don't get them directly from Hasbro).

Plus ... it's kinda fun to watch some Yankee Fanboys cry tears of entitlement. Image


No tears here, I just think if it's a store exclusive here that we have to wait months for and pre-order to get, we should be able to get the first crack before anybody else. Like I said if the figure is ready to go then I don't see why we can't have it in time for Halloween, makes more sense than November.
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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:06 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Distribution is a chaotic beast and it's different from countries to countries. No matter if in some country it's an exclusive or not.


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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby jtanimator » Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:33 pm

The prices on these crossover exclusives are getting out. of. hand. I hear lots of people complaining about Hasbro’s prices, but generally I find them fair compared to other toy competitors. Whereas these are just another world. LEADER price for a mold that originally cost $17??! You freaking kidding? Even with licensing, this sucker should not be more than $30-$35. Seems they’re taking advantage of our lack of understanding for what the licensing is costing them. That way they can excuse any price on that reason. Pretty low.
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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:57 pm

jtanimator wrote:The prices on these crossover exclusives are getting out. of. hand. I hear lots of people complaining about Hasbro’s prices, but generally I find them fair compared to other toy competitors. Whereas these are just another world. LEADER price for a mold that originally cost $17??! You freaking kidding? Even with licensing, this sucker should not be more than $30-$35. Seems they’re taking advantage of our lack of understanding for what the licensing is costing them. That way they can excuse any price on that reason. Pretty low.


Um, Target has him at $31.50, right about where you indicated it should be. Did you get crossed up with the prices in Canada? Those are ooof, our friends up north get really hosed on these.

Edit: unless you are also up north, in which case, my condolences on having to experience the exchange rate game.
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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:15 pm

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jtanimator wrote:The prices on these crossover exclusives are getting out. of. hand. I hear lots of people complaining about Hasbro’s prices, but generally I find them fair compared to other toy competitors. Whereas these are just another world. LEADER price for a mold that originally cost $17??! You freaking kidding? Even with licensing, this sucker should not be more than $30-$35. Seems they’re taking advantage of our lack of understanding for what the licensing is costing them. That way they can excuse any price on that reason. Pretty low.


Um, Target has him at $31.50, right about where you indicated it should be. Did you get crossed up with the prices in Canada? Those are ooof, our friends up north get really hosed on these.

Edit: unless you are also up north, in which case, my condolences on having to experience the exchange rate game.



It's more than "exchange rate". That MSRP of Drac is 70$CAN plus taxes. Meaning 55$US. A leader is typically 52$US I think. so yeah, there's a layer of bullshiit for the X-Over figures in Canada and I don't know what it is.

At least, we Canadians get our "revenge" with the Masters of the Universe toys whose prices are the same in $CAN as in $US... or even cheaper!
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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:56 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
jtanimator wrote:The prices on these crossover exclusives are getting out. of. hand. I hear lots of people complaining about Hasbro’s prices, but generally I find them fair compared to other toy competitors. Whereas these are just another world. LEADER price for a mold that originally cost $17??! You freaking kidding? Even with licensing, this sucker should not be more than $30-$35. Seems they’re taking advantage of our lack of understanding for what the licensing is costing them. That way they can excuse any price on that reason. Pretty low.


Um, Target has him at $31.50, right about where you indicated it should be. Did you get crossed up with the prices in Canada? Those are ooof, our friends up north get really hosed on these.

Edit: unless you are also up north, in which case, my condolences on having to experience the exchange rate game.



It's more than "exchange rate". That MSRP of Drac is 70$CAN plus taxes. Meaning 55$US. A leader is typically 52$US I think. so yeah, there's a layer of bullshiit for the X-Over figures in Canada and I don't know what it is.

At least, we Canadians get our "revenge" with the Masters of the Universe toys whose prices are the same in $CAN as in $US... or even cheaper!


That's why I called it the exchange rate game. Hasbro is playing some type of games with those rates, and the fans in Canada are not the ones winning.
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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

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That's why I called it the exchange rate game. Hasbro is playing some type of games with those rates, and the fans in Canada are not the ones winning.


Oddly enough, the prices of the regular figures follow the rates roughly.

Leader in USA: 53$US (67$CAN)
Canadian price of a leader: 70/72$CAN

Voyager in USA: 30/32$US (38/40$CAN)
Canadian price for a voyager: 40$/45$CAN

Deluxe in USA: 22$US (28$CAN)
Canadian price for a deluxe: 30/33$CAN.

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That in mind, the Xover figures are absurdly priced in Canada because reasons.

Voyager Ectotron 1.0: 60$CAN (47$US)
Deluxe Gigawatt: 60$CAN (47$US)
Voyager Top Gun Maverick ???$CAN
Voyager Ectotron 2.0: 95$CAN (75$US)
Leader X-Men thing: 95$CAN (75$US)
Deluxe Dracula: 70$CAN (55$US)

I don't know the original American prices of these X-Over figures, but I bet these are NOT the equivalent like the regular releases on top of my post.
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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:41 pm

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That in mind, the Xover figures are absurdly priced in Canada because reasons.

(snip)

I don't know the original American prices of these X-Over figures, but I bet these are NOT the equivalent like the regular releases on top of my post.
So it means that these X-Over figures in particular are specifically surcharged for some reasons.


You are right, I've added what I remember the original price being.

Voyager Ectotron 1.0: 60$CAN (47$US) - US $40 (after initial Pulse mistake price of $30)
Deluxe Gigawatt: 60$CAN (47$US) - US $30
Voyager Top Gun Maverick ???$CAN - US $50
Voyager Ectotron 2.0: 95$CAN (75$US) - US $60
Leader X-Men thing: 95$CAN (75$US)- US $65
Deluxe Dracula: 70$CAN (55$US) - US $31.50

I really don't get Dracula's pricing. Gigawatt required a bunch of new mold parts while most of Mindwipe is being kept for Dracula, yet Dracula gets an even higher markup. He just gets a fancier box and the cape. That cape better be velvet.
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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby Burn » Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:46 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:I just think if it's a store exclusive here that we have to wait months for and pre-order to get, we should be able to get the first crack before anybody else.

Well ... no. Store exclusive =/= country exclusive.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Like I said if the figure is ready to go then I don't see why we can't have it in time for Halloween, makes more sense than November.

It does make sense. But given the state of the world it wouldn't surprise me if they couldn't pull it off in time. Who knows, there's probably a lot of factors in play that we'll never know about.
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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:49 pm

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:I just think if it's a store exclusive here that we have to wait months for and pre-order to get, we should be able to get the first crack before anybody else.

Well ... no. Store exclusive =/= country exclusive.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Like I said if the figure is ready to go then I don't see why we can't have it in time for Halloween, makes more sense than November.

It does make sense. But given the state of the world it wouldn't surprise me if they couldn't pull it off in time. Who knows, there's probably a lot of factors in play that we'll never know about.


Bigger point. My Battle Across time set was due in November, then September 16th, then the 14th, then I got it on the 13th. Might ship early, who knows.

Yes I realize being a store exclusive doesn't mean country exclusive but there just has to be a better way than PO a figure one day and somebody finding it in a store in another country the next. It would be nice for Hasbro to tell us, "Hey just so you know, other countries are going to get this sooner and more widely distributed than you, just wanted to let you know." Yeah I know, pipe dream.
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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby william-james88 » Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:17 am

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yes I realize being a store exclusive doesn't mean country exclusive but there just has to be a better way than PO a figure one day and somebody finding it in a store in another country the next. It would be nice for Hasbro to tell us, "Hey just so you know, other countries are going to get this sooner and more widely distributed than you, just wanted to let you know." Yeah I know, pipe dream.


How would anyone know when something is more widely distributed when those factors are unrelated to hasbro? For instance Hasbro shipped all of Walgreen's order for Kingdom Red Alert months ago but Walgreens has chosen not to put them in stores until later.

Also, most figures should be found closer to where they are manufactured before being found in the US. By logic, the US being at the other end of the world from manufacturing and being a country with such a spaced out population, it's more logical that it would be the last place to get wide distribution for a product. it's maybe because it's this obvious that Hasbro wouldn't release a statement, you aren't getting the product first.

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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:29 am

I would also say that there might be some issues just getting product into the US right now. I read an article yesterday indicating there are a record 56 container ships stuck off the coast of California waiting their turn to unload due to worker shortages and covid shutdowns at the ports.

It very well could be that the plan was to have Draculus available for Halloween, but they are all stuck on a ship right now, and unlikely to make it on time.

If that is the case then I would never expect Hasbro or any of the retailers to announce that to the public, especially when much of the public doesn't understand the incredible pain in the ass international shipping can be.
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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

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Transformers Draculus Found at Toysrus Canada for $72 + In hand Images

Postby william-james88 » Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:27 pm

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Toysrus stores in canada are now stocking the Transformers Dracula crossover Draculus figure. The MSRP is $72.99 CAD, which is in line with all other crossover figures being much more expensive than they are in the US after conversion. The sighting comes from Anemis who posted that on Cybertron.ca. While we are speaking of Draculus, here are some pictures from TF fan Banshee who had found the figure the day it was revealed. In the images we can see how well the cape can work in both modes.

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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby jtanimator » Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:18 pm

Nice, that was fast.
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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:34 am

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That Dracula is absolutely magnificent.
But that price is absolutely bonkers.

I know they will have a ton in their inventory, like X-Panse, Ectotron, and Gigawatt. They all going to be on clearance sooner or later. That will be the only time to buy.
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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby whacko » Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:27 am

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It looks like the face on this version of the mold is not made out of rubber, which is something I was worried about given that Titans Return Mindwipe had a rubber head. That speaks better for the potential longevity of this unique collectible.
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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

Postby mcfmullen » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:19 pm

which is in line with all other crossover figures being much more expensive than they are in the US after conversion.


which is in line with EVERYTHING being much more expensive than they are in the US after conversion.


Fixed.
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Re: First Images of Dracula x Transformers crossover Draculus Figure

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