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SlyTF1 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Really? This is Drift? This is insulting to our intelligence. Does Bay really think it is plausible that an HIGHLY advanced alien is going to take the physical form of a 1000 year old warrior from a lesser civilization who fights with a sword? Oh come on now. That is just outright stupid, let alone the actual look of this thing. It looks like the Japanese robot in Real Steel. Fine for that movie. Ridiculous for this one......
No one complained when Bludgeon was a samurai. No one complained when Prowl was a samurai in Animated. Why complain now that Bay decides to make a samurai TF? Your logic is flawed.
EagleTron wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:EagleTron wrote:The last drift figure was a samurai and the last Bludgeon figure was a samurai and Prowl is a ninja which is totally different from a Samurai. These live action movie/bay haters should just imo say their comments/ hate opinions and leave out trying to say facts. Because those two things don't mix. And if you think that the Dinobots will be safe from Mr. Bay and company take on what they want transformers figure to be like, U R wrong
Everybody but you knows that Prowl was Ninja and that pic is with him with just samurai armor. If I put on samurai armor would that make me a Dedicated serve or parish Samurai, No.
shockblast2 wrote:njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Really? This is Drift? This is insulting to our intelligence. Does Bay really think it is plausible that an HIGHLY advanced alien is going to take the physical form of a 1000 year old warrior from a lesser civilization who fights with a sword? Oh come on now. That is just outright stupid, let alone the actual look of this thing. It looks like the Japanese robot in Real Steel. Fine for that movie. Ridiculous for this one......
Is Hound going to be decked out in swat gear too? Is he going to use bullets rather than lazer tech against metal robots? This is almost comical if not sad that Bay and co are yet again dumbing down the TF franchise.
Surely he didn't screw up the Dinobots, the only thing I am buying from this toyline. From the way it is going, Grimlock is going to be the cybertronian representation of Barney.
Have you ever watched or read any Transformers media? It's about a group of beings who mimic things. I'm thinking you really haven't watched any of the movies, all of them have projectile weapons used by Cybertronains(even the 80's animated movie).
The movies are the only media that incorporates bullets being used by TF's and that is one of the reasons why the movies are ridiculous. Eye candy, but still totally unrealistic, even for a story about transforming robots from a planet far away.
Again, the reason this pic looks so organic is because it is a Halloween costume.MINDVVIPE wrote:Now, we get Drift who looks EXTREMLY samurai to the point where its almost organic, which is bays style. Its just too Samurai.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Again, the reason this pic looks so organic is because it is a Halloween costume.MINDVVIPE wrote:Now, we get Drift who looks EXTREMLY samurai to the point where its almost organic, which is bays style. Its just too Samurai.
Compare this:
To this:
njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Really? This is Drift? This is insulting to our intelligence. Does Bay really think it is plausible that an HIGHLY advanced alien is going to take the physical form of a 1000 year old warrior from a lesser civilization who fights with a sword? Oh come on now. That is just outright stupid, let alone the actual look of this thing. It looks like the Japanese robot in Real Steel. Fine for that movie. Ridiculous for this one......
Is Hound going to be decked out in swat gear too? Is he going to use bullets rather than lazer tech against metal robots? This is almost comical if not sad that Bay and co are yet again dumbing down the TF franchise.
Surely he didn't screw up the Dinobots, the only thing I am buying from this toyline. From the way it is going, Grimlock is going to be the cybertronian representation of Barney.
Have you ever watched or read any Transformers media? It's about a group of beings who mimic things. I'm thinking you really haven't watched any of the movies, all of them have projectile weapons used by Cybertronains(even the 80's animated movie).
The movies are the only media that incorporates bullets being used by TF's and that is one of the reasons why the movies are ridiculous. Eye candy, but still totally unrealistic, even for a story about transforming robots from a planet far away.
Why is it "unrealistic"?
Sabreblade wrote:This pic is of a Halloween costume.Optimizzy wrote:If it actually changes into an alt mode I will be impressed with it. It looks like its just an action figure though.
shockblast2 wrote:njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Really? This is Drift? This is insulting to our intelligence. Does Bay really think it is plausible that an HIGHLY advanced alien is going to take the physical form of a 1000 year old warrior from a lesser civilization who fights with a sword? Oh come on now. That is just outright stupid, let alone the actual look of this thing. It looks like the Japanese robot in Real Steel. Fine for that movie. Ridiculous for this one......
Is Hound going to be decked out in swat gear too? Is he going to use bullets rather than lazer tech against metal robots? This is almost comical if not sad that Bay and co are yet again dumbing down the TF franchise.
Surely he didn't screw up the Dinobots, the only thing I am buying from this toyline. From the way it is going, Grimlock is going to be the cybertronian representation of Barney.
Have you ever watched or read any Transformers media? It's about a group of beings who mimic things. I'm thinking you really haven't watched any of the movies, all of them have projectile weapons used by Cybertronains(even the 80's animated movie).
The movies are the only media that incorporates bullets being used by TF's and that is one of the reasons why the movies are ridiculous. Eye candy, but still totally unrealistic, even for a story about transforming robots from a planet far away.
Why is it "unrealistic"?
For obvious reasons. That is like someone trying to make a bullet out of meat and use it against you. Think about it.
njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Really? This is Drift? This is insulting to our intelligence. Does Bay really think it is plausible that an HIGHLY advanced alien is going to take the physical form of a 1000 year old warrior from a lesser civilization who fights with a sword? Oh come on now. That is just outright stupid, let alone the actual look of this thing. It looks like the Japanese robot in Real Steel. Fine for that movie. Ridiculous for this one......
Is Hound going to be decked out in swat gear too? Is he going to use bullets rather than lazer tech against metal robots? This is almost comical if not sad that Bay and co are yet again dumbing down the TF franchise.
Surely he didn't screw up the Dinobots, the only thing I am buying from this toyline. From the way it is going, Grimlock is going to be the cybertronian representation of Barney.
Have you ever watched or read any Transformers media? It's about a group of beings who mimic things. I'm thinking you really haven't watched any of the movies, all of them have projectile weapons used by Cybertronains(even the 80's animated movie).
The movies are the only media that incorporates bullets being used by TF's and that is one of the reasons why the movies are ridiculous. Eye candy, but still totally unrealistic, even for a story about transforming robots from a planet far away.
Why is it "unrealistic"?
For obvious reasons. That is like someone trying to make a bullet out of meat and use it against you. Think about it.
For starters that's asinine, you can't make a bullet out of meat. if metal can't harm metal why do we arm tanks, planes, and ships with guns? If like can't hurt like why do martial arts exist?
Optimizzy wrote:njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Really? This is Drift? This is insulting to our intelligence. Does Bay really think it is plausible that an HIGHLY advanced alien is going to take the physical form of a 1000 year old warrior from a lesser civilization who fights with a sword? Oh come on now. That is just outright stupid, let alone the actual look of this thing. It looks like the Japanese robot in Real Steel. Fine for that movie. Ridiculous for this one......
Is Hound going to be decked out in swat gear too? Is he going to use bullets rather than lazer tech against metal robots? This is almost comical if not sad that Bay and co are yet again dumbing down the TF franchise.
Surely he didn't screw up the Dinobots, the only thing I am buying from this toyline. From the way it is going, Grimlock is going to be the cybertronian representation of Barney.
Have you ever watched or read any Transformers media? It's about a group of beings who mimic things. I'm thinking you really haven't watched any of the movies, all of them have projectile weapons used by Cybertronains(even the 80's animated movie).
The movies are the only media that incorporates bullets being used by TF's and that is one of the reasons why the movies are ridiculous. Eye candy, but still totally unrealistic, even for a story about transforming robots from a planet far away.
Why is it "unrealistic"?
For obvious reasons. That is like someone trying to make a bullet out of meat and use it against you. Think about it.
For starters that's asinine, you can't make a bullet out of meat. if metal can't harm metal why do we arm tanks, planes, and ships with guns? If like can't hurt like why do martial arts exist?
Since many of the movie transformers have guns that actually grow out of them, the ammo is likely to also be a part of them. That seems a little strange to me and it did when I watched the movies. If they carried weapons with them it makes more sense...but yeah. That kinda is like hurling loogies at each other. It doesn't make sense in that regard.
However, I think kinetic damage is far more effective than thermal damage, especially to metal. So I'd say that projectile weapons would probably be realistic, but only on weapons carried and not "grown."
njb902 wrote:Optimizzy wrote:njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Really? This is Drift? This is insulting to our intelligence. Does Bay really think it is plausible that an HIGHLY advanced alien is going to take the physical form of a 1000 year old warrior from a lesser civilization who fights with a sword? Oh come on now. That is just outright stupid, let alone the actual look of this thing. It looks like the Japanese robot in Real Steel. Fine for that movie. Ridiculous for this one......
Is Hound going to be decked out in swat gear too? Is he going to use bullets rather than lazer tech against metal robots? This is almost comical if not sad that Bay and co are yet again dumbing down the TF franchise.
Surely he didn't screw up the Dinobots, the only thing I am buying from this toyline. From the way it is going, Grimlock is going to be the cybertronian representation of Barney.
Have you ever watched or read any Transformers media? It's about a group of beings who mimic things. I'm thinking you really haven't watched any of the movies, all of them have projectile weapons used by Cybertronains(even the 80's animated movie).
The movies are the only media that incorporates bullets being used by TF's and that is one of the reasons why the movies are ridiculous. Eye candy, but still totally unrealistic, even for a story about transforming robots from a planet far away.
Why is it "unrealistic"?
For obvious reasons. That is like someone trying to make a bullet out of meat and use it against you. Think about it.
For starters that's asinine, you can't make a bullet out of meat. if metal can't harm metal why do we arm tanks, planes, and ships with guns? If like can't hurt like why do martial arts exist?
Since many of the movie transformers have guns that actually grow out of them, the ammo is likely to also be a part of them. That seems a little strange to me and it did when I watched the movies. If they carried weapons with them it makes more sense...but yeah. That kinda is like hurling loogies at each other. It doesn't make sense in that regard.
However, I think kinetic damage is far more effective than thermal damage, especially to metal. So I'd say that projectile weapons would probably be realistic, but only on weapons carried and not "grown."
Well take Bumblebee's plasma cannon. If it does indeed fire plasma of some kind, I would imagine it would be very effective at damaging metal. Just look up what a tank round actually does when it hits something.
It's posts like this that make me wish we had a "Like!" for each post on this forum.njb902 wrote:Kinda looks like a yellow guyver.
They already did a Bludgeon in the ROTF toyline.partholon wrote:missed opertunity to do bludgeon IMO.
You can tell what his face looks like through all that fuzzy pixelation?MaverickPrime wrote:While I've always had issues with the directing and story of Bayformers, I've always liked the designs(some more, some less) but this...I absolutely HATE the face! Not the head, the helmet is ok, but the FACE! It's extremely human looking! I don't have anything against the samurai look, I love Drift, Bludgeon and TFA Prowl and how they pulled it off(even with samurai helmets like this one) but Prowl still had a cybertronian face, and while Bludgeon had a very organic-looking skull, he was a Pretender, he WAS meant to! Since the first movie, they've given us the "They look weird because they're aliens" bullshit and yet they keep humanizing them! I hate that kind of inconsistency. So far, I must say that I don't like the new designs, they've taken the Bay designs up to eleven and I don't like the way this is headed, because they don't look transformable anymore, which will make the toys suffer, they'll either be very inaccurate, or have very cheaty transformations or be extreme shellformers, just like Optimus looks so far.
I really, really hope they make me eat my words, I really do.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Really? This is Drift? This is insulting to our intelligence. Does Bay really think it is plausible that an HIGHLY advanced alien is going to take the physical form of a 1000 year old warrior from a lesser civilization who fights with a sword? Oh come on now. That is just outright stupid, let alone the actual look of this thing. It looks like the Japanese robot in Real Steel. Fine for that movie. Ridiculous for this one......
Is Hound going to be decked out in swat gear too? Is he going to use bullets rather than lazer tech against metal robots? This is almost comical if not sad that Bay and co are yet again dumbing down the TF franchise.
Surely he didn't screw up the Dinobots, the only thing I am buying from this toyline. From the way it is going, Grimlock is going to be the cybertronian representation of Barney.
Have you ever watched or read any Transformers media? It's about a group of beings who mimic things. I'm thinking you really haven't watched any of the movies, all of them have projectile weapons used by Cybertronains(even the 80's animated movie).
The movies are the only media that incorporates bullets being used by TF's and that is one of the reasons why the movies are ridiculous. Eye candy, but still totally unrealistic, even for a story about transforming robots from a planet far away.
Why is it "unrealistic"?
For obvious reasons. That is like someone trying to make a bullet out of meat and use it against you. Think about it.
For starters that's asinine, you can't make a bullet out of meat. if metal can't harm metal why do we arm tanks, planes, and ships with guns? If like can't hurt like why do martial arts exist?
Burn wrote:Well it was human projectile weapons that did to damage in the first movie ...
shockblast2 wrote:njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:njb902 wrote:shockblast2 wrote:Really? This is Drift? This is insulting to our intelligence. Does Bay really think it is plausible that an HIGHLY advanced alien is going to take the physical form of a 1000 year old warrior from a lesser civilization who fights with a sword? Oh come on now. That is just outright stupid, let alone the actual look of this thing. It looks like the Japanese robot in Real Steel. Fine for that movie. Ridiculous for this one......
Is Hound going to be decked out in swat gear too? Is he going to use bullets rather than lazer tech against metal robots? This is almost comical if not sad that Bay and co are yet again dumbing down the TF franchise.
Surely he didn't screw up the Dinobots, the only thing I am buying from this toyline. From the way it is going, Grimlock is going to be the cybertronian representation of Barney.
Have you ever watched or read any Transformers media? It's about a group of beings who mimic things. I'm thinking you really haven't watched any of the movies, all of them have projectile weapons used by Cybertronains(even the 80's animated movie).
The movies are the only media that incorporates bullets being used by TF's and that is one of the reasons why the movies are ridiculous. Eye candy, but still totally unrealistic, even for a story about transforming robots from a planet far away.
Why is it "unrealistic"?
For obvious reasons. That is like someone trying to make a bullet out of meat and use it against you. Think about it.
For starters that's asinine, you can't make a bullet out of meat. if metal can't harm metal why do we arm tanks, planes, and ships with guns? If like can't hurt like why do martial arts exist?
Yes, but you are comparing apples to oranges. Metal is far more durable than flesh. So far that it is almost comical that I actually have to explain this. And yes, you very well could make a bullet out of meat if you were so inclined. But why do it because it would be pointless. Kinda like metal robots shooting each other with metal bullets. Furthermore, if you have the tech to make plasma and laser weapons why would you resort to a lesser tech? Don't bring a gun to an energy weapon fight. Especially when your enemy is made of the very metal you are using as a weapon. Now do you get it?
shockblast2 wrote:Burn wrote:Well it was human projectile weapons that did to damage in the first movie ...
Noone shooting a beretta at a transformers is going to do it much damage, let alone put it down. Unless it was the toaster bot or something. You can't use the movies to prove out something that is the point of the debate? The movies are the whole reason why I am even talking about this. Only in a Bay movie would these things happen. Hell, even the humans were using energy weapons in the G1 series.....
But again, these are the movies, where devastator had balls. I am surprised they didn't kill Megatron with a pellet gun the way things were going.....
Sabrblade wrote:A ninja wearing the armor of a Samurai does not a true Samurai make.SlyTF1 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:A ninja wearing the armor of a Samurai does not a true Samurai make.SlyTF1 wrote:
The armor is all that matters. I didn't see anyone complain because there existed samurai-like armor on Cybertron BEFORE they even discovered Earth. So, why the hell are people mad now that Bay has a design similar to a samurai?
Sabrblade wrote:Again, the reason this pic looks so organic is because it is a Halloween costume.MINDVVIPE wrote:Now, we get Drift who looks EXTREMLY samurai to the point where its almost organic, which is bays style. Its just too Samurai.
Ultra Markus wrote:if they are going with the samurai theme that must make prime a shogun
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