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News Credits: 1 · by **guardianprime** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:52 pm

im a fan of the new paint job but im not gonna get him again. i liked the green too. dont know why people had such a problem with it. and giant arm blades sorta make up for it (and the non moving head) in my opinion

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:53 pm

Gobot Homages? Oh dear heavens, it's the Apocalypse!

News Credits: 3597 · by **Seibertron** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:38 pm

Blurrz wrote:Gobot Homages? Oh dear heavens, it's the Apocalypse!

i think there's around ten or so now.

News Credits: 609 · by **Razorclaw0000** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:08 pm

Seibertron wrote:
Blurrz wrote:Gobot Homages? Oh dear heavens, it's the Apocalypse!

i think there's around ten or so now.

The eHobby Minibots, Crasher, Spoons, Bug Bite, ROTF The Fallen. Am I missing anyone?

by **Valandar** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:26 pm

Razorclaw0000 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
Blurrz wrote:Gobot Homages? Oh dear heavens, it's the Apocalypse!

i think there's around ten or so now.

The eHobby Minibots, Crasher, Spoons, Bug Bite, ROTF The Fallen. Am I missing anyone?

The Fallen only in design. The name and character are an homage to a dead comic company.

News Credits: 3597 · by **Seibertron** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:54 pm

Valandar wrote:
Razorclaw0000 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
Blurrz wrote:Gobot Homages? Oh dear heavens, it's the Apocalypse!

i think there's around ten or so now.

The eHobby Minibots, Crasher, Spoons, Bug Bite, ROTF The Fallen. Am I missing anyone?

The Fallen only in design. The name and character are an homage to a dead comic company.

I would totally not include the Fallen in that list. He's about the furthest thing away from an homage unless all black alien jets from this day forward are going to be considered an homage. I don't think he looks like an homage to the Gobots figure I've heard some mention. If there are any similarities, I think it's merely coincidence.

The rest are all supposed to be direct homages.

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:08 pm

Well, I guess you learn something new everyday. Didn't expect there to be so many Gobot homages already. I guess there were Transformers fans a couple years ago freaking out like I just did.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:39 am

Blurrz wrote:Gobot Homages? Oh dear heavens, it's the Apocalypse!

2012:Return of The Go-Bots franchise!

News Credits: 609 · by **Razorclaw0000** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:39 am

Seibertron wrote:
Valandar wrote:
Razorclaw0000 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
Blurrz wrote:Gobot Homages? Oh dear heavens, it's the Apocalypse!

i think there's around ten or so now.

The eHobby Minibots, Crasher, Spoons, Bug Bite, ROTF The Fallen. Am I missing anyone?

The Fallen only in design. The name and character are an homage to a dead comic company.

I would totally not include the Fallen in that list. He's about the furthest thing away from an homage unless all black alien jets from this day forward are going to be considered an homage. I don't think he looks like an homage to the Gobots figure I've heard some mention. If there are any similarities, I think it's merely coincidence.

The rest are all supposed to be direct homages.

I think the Fallen just screams "Vamp". However, I think the eHobby stuff failed miserably because none of the colors really matched. They just used the names.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:55 pm

Razorclaw0000 wrote:I think the Fallen just screams "Vamp". However, I think the eHobby stuff failed miserably because none of the colors really matched. They just used the names.

Correction: Takara wanted too. But they decided against it since the names referred to Bandai products, their main competitor. While the chances of it actually infringing copyright is minimal, Takara decided to play it safe. All the e-Hobby G1 Gobots ever got were individual designation numbers, no official names.

News Credits: 2 · by **Stockade** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:54 pm

WOW! this screams buy me!! which i will and i have GOBOTS too! this will make a nice touch along with the other scouts and GOBOTS alike!!

News Credits: 9 · by **Editor** » Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:44 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Razorclaw0000 wrote:I think the Fallen just screams "Vamp". However, I think the eHobby stuff failed miserably because none of the colors really matched. They just used the names.

Correction: Takara wanted too. But they decided against it since the names referred to Bandai products, their main competitor. While the chances of it actually infringing copyright is minimal, Takara decided to play it safe. All the e-Hobby G1 Gobots ever got were individual designation numbers, no official names.

While the official toy release failed to give them proper designations, Takara did release them as the "G1 GoBots" Team and the bios included with them make it quite clear the they are the same characters as Pathfinder, Small Foot, Road Ranger, Treads, Bad Boy and Bug Bite. They were also added to NA G1 do to the BotCon BugBite release with the fiction showing that he is the upgraded version of the Takara release.

I find where the pack failed was A) that it wasn't that the colors didn't match the originals, It's that the colors were the original concepts for Powerglide, Warpath and Cosmos toys making it harder to match them to different characters, and B) where Hasbro acquired the old rights for GoBots, and many Fans have waited and expected these homages, the same doesn't exist for Takara, and even the toys which we think of as GoBots, were seen in a different light there, making the connection much more of a stretch.

For the record, from Hirofumi Ichikawa, Fan and Takara Employee. Regarding lack of Character knowledge and Takara/Bandai concerns:

Hirofumi Ichikawa wrote:"When e-Hobby first announced the G1 GoBots, hardly any Japanese fans understood their background info. When it was learned the character's names were 'American brand names for Machine Robos,' some people on the net apparently said that 'Takara has infringed on Bandai's copyrights.'

In Japan, brand name copyrights basically depend only on title (which in this case is just the 'G1 GoBots' part), so however Takara named the characters for the content, there shouldn't have been any conflict over questions of rights. From what I hear, though, a "well-informed" person said, 'Bandai's the kind of company for which there's no telling what they'll do if they get upset,' and he rather firmly recommended the use of the names be discontinued. As expected, even Takara had to reconsider, and as a result, the personal names of the GoBots were completely eliminated from the product. I think it was a pretty ridiculous idea, myself, but since I can't make a client bear risk, even if it's a one-in-a-million chance, I didn't really try to refute it.

(By the time I heard about the situation, it was already a done deal, so opposing it would've done squat-all anyway.)"

by **Dagon** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:48 pm

Dead Metal wrote:
Hard Hacker wrote:Must be one hell of a legal nightmare to get the trademark "Spoon".

Maybe Spoons the 2nd?

Or Decepticon Spoons, to go along with Decepticon Brawl, Autobot Jazz and Autobot Ratchet, and any other naming problem figures who just get their faction name attached to the front?

News Credits: 9 · by **Editor** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:57 pm

Dagon wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
Hard Hacker wrote:Must be one hell of a legal nightmare to get the trademark "Spoon".

Maybe Spoons the 2nd?

Or Decepticon Spoons, to go along with Decepticon Brawl, Autobot Jazz and Autobot Ratchet, and any other naming problem figures who just get their faction name attached to the front?

Be more accurate and he could be tagged as "Renegade Spoons". If they do, his Bio better make some cryptic reference to Withered Hope.