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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:27 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:In fact, I'm surprised there aren't that many here who think that Beast Wars is overrated (I don't).


Because it isn't. It really is a great series. Actually, the best.
While I agree with you that it is the best, there are others who would disagree and say that either G1 or Animated is the best.


I've never seen Animated, (can't stand the way they're drawn) G1 might be better than BW out of nostalgia only. And maybe toys. The BW show had better writing, better voicing, and better animation. G1 was really, as a lot of others pointd out, a 22 minute toy commercial. BW was actually a story that happened to have some toys accompany it.
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:57 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:In fact, I'm surprised there aren't that many here who think that Beast Wars is overrated (I don't).


Because it isn't. It really is a great series. Actually, the best.
While I agree with you that it is the best, there are others who would disagree and say that either G1 or Animated is the best.


I've never seen Animated, (can't stand the way they're drawn) G1 might be better than BW out of nostalgia only. And maybe toys. The BW show had better writing, better voicing, and better animation. G1 was really, as a lot of others pointd out, a 22 minute toy commercial. BW was actually a story that happened to have some toys accompany it.
Animated is basically the Beast Wars of today. It's almost on (if not directly on) par with Beast Wars in terms of writing, voicing, plot, characters, and storytelling. While on it's outward appearance, it may seem like a childish look, but underneath is a serious and fun story that at times would get light and comical, and at other times would get dark and critical.
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby TulioDude » Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:10 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
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Sabrblade wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:In fact, I'm surprised there aren't that many here who think that Beast Wars is overrated (I don't).


Because it isn't. It really is a great series. Actually, the best.
While I agree with you that it is the best, there are others who would disagree and say that either G1 or Animated is the best.


I've never seen Animated, (can't stand the way they're drawn) G1 might be better than BW out of nostalgia only. And maybe toys. The BW show had better writing, better voicing, and better animation. G1 was really, as a lot of others pointd out, a 22 minute toy commercial. BW was actually a story that happened to have some toys accompany it.
Animated is basically the Beast Wars of today. It's almost on (if not directly on) par with Beast Wars in terms of writing, voicing, plot, characters, and storytelling. While on it's outward appearance, it may seem like a childish look, but underneath is a serious and fun story that at times would get light and comical, and at other times would get dark and critical.


Yes,check out animated,one of best shows. :D
The only that i was against when announced,was that it was right after the movie and and i wasnt very happy with ties-ins(Spider-man 2003 series).
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby Convotron » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:06 pm

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I had similar doubts about TFA before I began watching it but as already stated, it is a a more complex story than its visuals imply at a glance.

G1 was a big toy commercial, no doubt. Check out Scramble City to see a commercial episode that I think was done with a bit of cleverness. The way that the concept of interchangeable combiner figures was woven into the fight seen between Superion and Menasor is something I think is clever for a late 80s cartoon.
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:59 am

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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby vectorA3 » Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:29 am

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that's it, i wanna see every Beast Wars episode right now!!!!
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby TulioDude » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:27 pm

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vectorA3 wrote:that's it, i wanna see every Beast Wars episode right now!!!!

I did that once. :D
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby Tirade » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:29 pm

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Convotron wrote:I had similar doubts about TFA before I began watching it but as already stated, it is a a more complex story than its visuals imply at a glance.

G1 was a big toy commercial, no doubt. Check out Scramble City to see a commercial episode that I think was done with a bit of cleverness. The way that the concept of interchangeable combiner figures was woven into the fight seen between Superion and Menasor is something I think is clever for a late 80s cartoon.


Then it is a pity the visuals can't match the story. Contrary to some, I factor in the animation quality when deciding to watch a show. I want my robots to look like robots. That's one reason why I'll gladly take Cybertron or Energon over Animated (or G1 for that matter).
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby Convotron » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:12 pm

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Tirade wrote:Then it is a pity the visuals can't match the story. Contrary to some, I factor in the animation quality when deciding to watch a show. I want my robots to look like robots. That's one reason why I'll gladly take Cybertron or Energon over Animated (or G1 for that matter).


The quality of the animation is fine, it's the art direction/style that people are put off by. The animation quality is actually consistent throughout all 3 seasons.

My first thought when seeing TFA was that it was pretty squashy/stretchy, which is something I'd prefer not to have in a Transformers cartoon. It's better for primarily humourous cartoons like Looney Tunes or Spongebob. However, while there is still the usual visual cheating for transformation sequences TFA, it's relatively minimal. The big cheater is Sentinel Prime because his visual design in robot mode is very organic. Ironically, I like his toy because it shows vehicle kibble in robot mode, making him look more like a "proper" Transformer.

I dare to hope that the writing of TFA would someday be combined with the art direction of artists like Don Figueroa or Guido Guidi to create a Transformers cartoon series.
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby Name_Violation » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:03 am

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vectorA3 wrote:part of this might be the nostalgia factor.

G1 ----- rated just right B-)

This do not justify saying that the others are bad.

Every one has it own nostalgia,and none is better than other.

In my opinion,i dont why people hate Armada and leaves R.I.D. alone,but once again thats my opinion. :D


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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:58 am

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vectorA3 wrote:that's it, i wanna see every Beast Wars episode right now!!!!

I did that once. :D


I've done that lots of times. Beast Wars is 1337.
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby vectorA3 » Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:47 am

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would someone lend me their BW discs? I'd take immaculate care of them. Plmk! :-B B-)
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby TulioDude » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:03 pm

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vectorA3 wrote:would someone lend me their BW discs? I'd take immaculate care of them. Plmk! :-B B-)

I couldnt find any disc of beast wars,just beast machines so watch on Youtube.(if you feel like it)
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby mcart01y327 » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:42 pm

Ah youtube, the wonderful place where I watched all of Beast Wars and Beast Machines...and Transformers: Animated for that matter.
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:44 pm

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mcart01y327 wrote:Ah youtube, the wonderful place where I watched all of Beast Wars and Beast Machines...and Transformers: Animated for that matter.
For me, it was YouTube that let me see all of RiD. Ah, happy days, indeed.
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby vectorA3 » Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:48 am

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ok, if i watch on youtube - are there 4 seasons? And how many episodes per season?? I wanna watch in order. thx
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby mcart01y327 » Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:03 am

First Season: 26 episodes

Second Season: 13 episodes

Third Season: 13 episodes

Sorry, there are only three seasons, but you get an extra 13 episodes in the first season! :D

If you want the name of each episode go to tv.com and look up Beast Wars.

Enjoy BW! It's a good series!
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:28 am

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mcart01y327 wrote:First Season: 26 episodes

Second Season: 13 episodes

Third Season: 13 episodes

Sorry, there are only three seasons, but you get an extra 13 episodes in the first season! :D

If you want the name of each episode go to tv.com and look up Beast Wars.

Enjoy BW! It's a good series!
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby vectorA3 » Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:26 am

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thanx guys. I appreciate that - rather than looking it up on my own and potentially getting wrong info, I'm glad people who have seen it all are tellin me this. Now i just need time to watch em! (if i can find em on utube)
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby baku » Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:53 am

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... B29EF930A5
I'm pretty sure that playlist is all of season 1
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby Name_Violation » Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:03 am

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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby cybercat » Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:57 pm

TulioDude wrote:
vectorA3 wrote:would someone lend me their BW discs? I'd take immaculate care of them. Plmk! :-B B-)

I couldnt find any disc of beast wars,just beast machines so watch on Youtube.(if you feel like it)
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Netflix, my friend, Netflix. Get Beast Wars and Beast Machines back to back if you want your head to explode from the transition.

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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby vectorA3 » Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:35 am

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thx baku!! :)
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:56 am

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Netflix??? Beast Machines is on Netflix??? I. Must. Order!
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Re: G1 Overrated

Postby TulioDude » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:23 pm

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vectorA3 wrote:thanx guys. I appreciate that - rather than looking it up on my own and potentially getting wrong info, I'm glad people who have seen it all are tellin me this. Now i just need time to watch em! (if i can find em on utube)


http://www.youtube.com/user/TheUltimateOne81
This guy has all Beast Wars and Beast Machines episodes.How is your beast wars watching?



I want to say that Beast Wars and Animated are the best Transformers series,but it is my opinion and i would be no better than GeeWunners.






Just to ask,should i bother putting Geewunners examples?
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