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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Mkall wrote:Honestly, I think the previous one was more complete. That one had all the paint apps and individual robot/vehicle accessories, missing only Menasor's head. This one is missing alot of those bits, missing a bunch of vehicle-mode paint apps, but comes with a G1 Menasor head to make it look more complete and a decent story behind it though.
Hard to say if it'll do better or worse than the last, and it's my understanding the previous one's buyer suffered remorse and asked for a refund from the seller, claiming it was mis-advertised.
Really? Did the buyer get the refund? I'm really curious as to how many of these are out there.
Mkall wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Mkall wrote:Honestly, I think the previous one was more complete. That one had all the paint apps and individual robot/vehicle accessories, missing only Menasor's head. This one is missing alot of those bits, missing a bunch of vehicle-mode paint apps, but comes with a G1 Menasor head to make it look more complete and a decent story behind it though.
Hard to say if it'll do better or worse than the last, and it's my understanding the previous one's buyer suffered remorse and asked for a refund from the seller, claiming it was mis-advertised.
Really? Did the buyer get the refund? I'm really curious as to how many of these are out there.
Dunno actually, I saw the story play out on TFW where the buyer bought it as it was advertised as a nearly one of a kind holy grail type item, only afterwards to be notified by the 'really really high end collectors' that we TF fans barely know exist and was told that in their circles the G2 prototypes aren't that rare, and there were a few that were actually complete. I don't recall if the buyer said if he got his refund.
Still, these things are pretty neat to look at when they surface.
Double posting easier on mobile than editing and pasting in another quote, sorry for this in advance.chuckdawg1999 wrote:
It's funny you mention those collectors. I always hear stories about them here and there but like you said, they don't make themselves known. I wonder if they're ashamed of the rest of us.
ScottyP wrote:Double posting easier on mobile than editing and pasting in another quote, sorry for this in advance.chuckdawg1999 wrote:
It's funny you mention those collectors. I always hear stories about them here and there but like you said, they don't make themselves known. I wonder if they're ashamed of the rest of us.
Anyhow, the couple of folks I've met that can afford to be at the true high end of collecting Transformers are often too busy making the money that allows them to make that part of their lifestyle to be super actively involved with the fan community at large.
ScottyP wrote:(What follows is speculation and rumor, not thinly veiled fact presented as such.)
I heard rumor this past Botcon that there are a couple dozen more-or-less complete ones being hoarded and slowly trickled out. That feels a little too tin-foil hat for me, but I'd still caution folks against thinking these are as scarce as once believed.
Super rare, yes, but I think it's closer to the Lucky Draw realm quantity wise than the "once in a lifetime" one.
Bounti76 wrote:Only ended up going for $10,700. Almost a full $10,000 less than the last set seen. I think the difference was that the previous set had stickers applied, and was bagged.
I still wonder why I've never seen a G2 Defensor up for auction on eBay. I've been back into collecting for almost a decade and have seen less than a handful of individual G2 Protectobots up for auction.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Bounti76 wrote:Only ended up going for $10,700. Almost a full $10,000 less than the last set seen. I think the difference was that the previous set had stickers applied, and was bagged.
I still wonder why I've never seen a G2 Defensor up for auction on eBay. I've been back into collecting for almost a decade and have seen less than a handful of individual G2 Protectobots up for auction.
Probably has to do with what Scotty said, there's more G2 Stunticons out there than we first thought.
Bounti76 wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Bounti76 wrote:Only ended up going for $10,700. Almost a full $10,000 less than the last set seen. I think the difference was that the previous set had stickers applied, and was bagged.
I still wonder why I've never seen a G2 Defensor up for auction on eBay. I've been back into collecting for almost a decade and have seen less than a handful of individual G2 Protectobots up for auction.
Probably has to do with what Scotty said, there's more G2 Stunticons out there than we first thought.
There may very well be many more G2 Stunticon sets than first thought. But that still doesn't explain my main question: Why are the G2 Protectobots so rare as to be almost nonexistent? I've seen a G2 Blades or two, a G2 Streetwise or two, and one G2 Groove, and that's IT. Never a G2 Hot Spot or G2 First Aid up. And never as a complete set.
My secondary questions are: Would Hasbro ever reissue/produce the G2 Stunticons and Protectobots in G2 colors? And beast combiners aside, we have gotten EVERY single G1 combiner ever released and then some (G2 Menasor and Liokaiser) in Combiner Wars, so why not G2 Defensor? Not even a PEEP about him ever being planned or thought about.
I feel G2 Defensor will not happen due to the fact most stores can't give away their G2 box sets.
Yep. Liokaiser's probably it for those sets.chuckdawg1999 wrote:The Stunticons were probably further along so more prototypes were made, or people liked cars more. I feel G2 Defensor will not happen due to the fact most stores can't give away their G2 box sets.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
I could see the consistency argument working against that suggestion as well, since the other three G2 Collection Packs weren't Platinum Editions, they'd probably want a G2 Defensor set to follow in suit as a non-Platinum set rather than be the only CW G2 combiner to get the Platinum release treatment (especially considering how Platinums tend to have more exclusivity in their venues of release compared to the more wider-than-Platinum distribution that the non-Platinum CW Collection Packs have gotten).ScottyP wrote:^ That's all a logical line of thinking, but why couldn't they just throw it in Platinum with a random new weapon/Arms Micron/whatever like they did with Liokaiser?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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