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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:05 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I finally backed, still not enthusiastically, but sort of contently

That's actually an apt and relatively accurate description for me as well. Like, "I'm not a huge fan but it looks kinda cool and it's a combiner so why not?"

Yeah, like I am not blown away, it looks very adequate, and will probably be pretty solid and is a nice size.

Contentment is what I feel I guess.
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Dino-Snarl » Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:05 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I finally backed, still not enthusiastically, but sort of contently

That's actually an apt and relatively accurate description for me as well. Like, "I'm not a huge fan but it looks kinda cool and it's a combiner so why not?"

Yeah, like I am not blown away, it looks very adequate, and will probably be pretty solid and is a nice size.

Contentment is what I feel I guess.


A little FOMO maybe too? Understandable.
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Brokebot » Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:16 am

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Dino-Snarl wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I finally backed, still not enthusiastically, but sort of contently

That's actually an apt and relatively accurate description for me as well. Like, "I'm not a huge fan but it looks kinda cool and it's a combiner so why not?"

Yeah, like I am not blown away, it looks very adequate, and will probably be pretty solid and is a nice size.

Contentment is what I feel I guess.


A little FOMO maybe too? Understandable.


I regret I'm still on the fence. I'm pretty underwhelmed by it, but the knowledge that this is probably as good as it'll ever get with this group as an official HasTak release is nagging me to no end.

FOMO, indeed.
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Emerje » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:25 am

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I'm just glad it's a HasLab and not an over-engineered MPG.

Anyway, less than 1,000 for Deathcobra and Japanese TTM orders have now launched. We'll probably see their first addition Monday. Like the last couple the TTM backers are going to be added more frequently rather than in big jumps like the other countries so they wont be as noticeable, but the first couple should be big ones. We should easily hit tier 1 this week.

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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Dino-Snarl » Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:33 am

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Brokebot wrote:
Dino-Snarl wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I finally backed, still not enthusiastically, but sort of contently

That's actually an apt and relatively accurate description for me as well. Like, "I'm not a huge fan but it looks kinda cool and it's a combiner so why not?"

Yeah, like I am not blown away, it looks very adequate, and will probably be pretty solid and is a nice size.

Contentment is what I feel I guess.


A little FOMO maybe too? Understandable.


I regret I'm still on the fence. I'm pretty underwhelmed by it, but the knowledge that this is probably as good as it'll ever get with this group as an official HasTak release is nagging me to no end.

FOMO, indeed.


There with you. Pre-ordered already. Can always sell it.
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:38 am

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Brokebot wrote:
Dino-Snarl wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I finally backed, still not enthusiastically, but sort of contently

That's actually an apt and relatively accurate description for me as well. Like, "I'm not a huge fan but it looks kinda cool and it's a combiner so why not?"

Yeah, like I am not blown away, it looks very adequate, and will probably be pretty solid and is a nice size.

Contentment is what I feel I guess.


A little FOMO maybe too? Understandable.

I regret I'm still on the fence. I'm pretty underwhelmed by it, but the knowledge that this is probably as good as it'll ever get with this group as an official HasTak release is nagging me to no end.

FOMO, indeed.

Yes to both of these.
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This is what scares me. Takara lost all trust from me with combiners after Raiden. And I doubt that, as good as it looks and as much as I enjoy Ginrai, God Ginrai will help offset that.

As far as I am concerned, MP scale combiners (I have one official and one 3P) are off the table for me for now until someone instills trust again
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Emerje » Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:36 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:As far as I am concerned, MP scale combiners (I have one official and one 3P) are off the table for me for now until someone instills trust again

I've relegated Titans Devastator and Predaking to being MP combiners now.

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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Dino-Snarl » Tue Feb 25, 2025 10:42 pm

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Emerje wrote:I'm just glad it's a HasLab and not an over-engineered MPG.

Anyway, less than 1,000 for Deathcobra and Japanese TTM orders have now launched. We'll probably see their first addition Monday. Like the last couple the TTM backers are going to be added more frequently rather than in big jumps like the other countries so they wont be as noticeable, but the first couple should be big ones. We should easily hit tier 1 this week.

Emerje


We've heard the issues (combined) with MPG Raiden team and we're kind of happy we kept our sealed alongside the two that followed which were exclusives. We really love trains.
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:32 am

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Dino-Snarl wrote:
Emerje wrote:I'm just glad it's a HasLab and not an over-engineered MPG.

Anyway, less than 1,000 for Deathcobra and Japanese TTM orders have now launched. We'll probably see their first addition Monday. Like the last couple the TTM backers are going to be added more frequently rather than in big jumps like the other countries so they wont be as noticeable, but the first couple should be big ones. We should easily hit tier 1 this week.

Emerje


We've heard the issues (combined) with MPG Raiden team and we're kind of happy we kept our sealed alongside the two that followed which were exclusives. We really love trains.

Good call on your part. I love trains myself, which is the main reason I haven't gotten rid of the set. At the minimum, if they make a generations scaled one, I would disassembled the MPG to have a nice set of trains. And Kaen, because he is perfect as he is.
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Dino-Snarl » Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:09 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Dino-Snarl wrote:
Emerje wrote:I'm just glad it's a HasLab and not an over-engineered MPG.

Anyway, less than 1,000 for Deathcobra and Japanese TTM orders have now launched. We'll probably see their first addition Monday. Like the last couple the TTM backers are going to be added more frequently rather than in big jumps like the other countries so they wont be as noticeable, but the first couple should be big ones. We should easily hit tier 1 this week.

Emerje


We've heard the issues (combined) with MPG Raiden team and we're kind of happy we kept our sealed alongside the two that followed which were exclusives. We really love trains.

Good call on your part. I love trains myself, which is the main reason I haven't gotten rid of the set. At the minimum, if they make a generations scaled one, I would disassembled the MPG to have a nice set of trains. And Kaen, because he is perfect as he is.


Ain't that the truth. Kaen is the most beautiful one of the lot! Got him with the JPN exclusive box and extras!
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Haslab Liokaiser Update Video and First Tier Unlocked

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Feb 28, 2025 1:01 pm

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New video update for Liokaiser:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DGn03URuwwQ/

First Look: Transformers HasLab Liokaiser Gray Model Breakdown!

The Decepticons’ ultimate combiner is taking shape!

In this First Up look, Evan from the Transformers team breaks down the gray model of HasLab Liokaiser, giving fans a detailed look at each of the seven Bots in vehicle mode, robot mode, and combined form.
First seen at MegaCon, this is the most in-depth showcase yet! Plus, see Liokaiser next to the last successful Transformers: Victory HasLab—Deathsaurus!

With Tier 1: Deathcobra now unlocked, there’s still time to push for Tier 2 and Tier 3 before the campaign ends on March 24, 2025, at 11:59pm ET! Keep backing, and let’s bring Liokaiser to his ultimate form!

Back this HasLab exclusively on Hasbro Pulse in the U.S., UK, and EU by March 24th, 2025, at 11:59pm ET! See HasbroPulse.com for full terms and conditions.

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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Hero Alpha » Sat Mar 01, 2025 3:35 pm

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Have to say, after that video I am 95% in. Deathcobra was a big part of if I was gonna back it. Now its locked in and the cost feels a tiny bit better. Also I been watching Victory again and it is getting me pumped too. It is actually the only season I haven't fully watched, my mistake as I think I may like it better than Masterforce. Hasbro Pulse youtube channel should be running a live stream of it 24hrs a day like Transformers and G.I. Joe it already does. That just might sell it to a few more people who never watched it.
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 01, 2025 3:47 pm

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Hero Alpha wrote:Hasbro Pulse youtube channel should be running a live stream of it 24hrs a day like Transformers and G.I. Joe it already does. That just might sell it to a few more people who never watched it.
If they did, however, you just know they would use the Shout! Factory subtitled version that changed a bunch of things in the subtitle translation to make them more inaccurate to what is actually said in the Japanese dialogue. Not just name changes but cramming in references to TFTM, the Bay movies, Aligned, and IDW1 that otherwise do not belong in any 1980s Japanese anime translation.
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby cloudballoon » Sun Mar 02, 2025 3:16 pm

Why is Evan STILL NOT showing the individual bots with all of the "chest animals" off? I want to see how they'll look with the 5mm hole in the chest. Can't imagine they'd be great, but if there's enough details around to obscure the holes enough, I might bite and back it.
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Hero Alpha » Sun Mar 02, 2025 8:28 pm

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Hero Alpha wrote:Hasbro Pulse youtube channel should be running a live stream of it 24hrs a day like Transformers and G.I. Joe it already does. That just might sell it to a few more people who never watched it.
If they did, however, you just know they would use the Shout! Factory subtitled version that changed a bunch of things in the subtitle translation to make them more inaccurate to what is actually said in the Japanese dialogue. Not just name changes but cramming in references to TFTM, the Bay movies, Aligned, and IDW1 that otherwise do not belong in any 1980s Japanese anime translation.


That sounds blasphemous, glad I didn't start with that. Or they use the Omni dub :lol:
Actually I do kinda enjoy the Headmasters Omni dub every now and again. Checking in on Billy, Sparkle, Soundwave 2 and the gang.

I was sure I saw photos or a video of the chest animal-less figures somewhere, but can't seem to find them now. Thought it was the greyscale ones.
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Mar 06, 2025 11:19 am

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Only 85 more backers to go before unlocking the second tier.
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Bumblevivisector » Thu Mar 06, 2025 11:26 pm

...and it just unlocked the Electromagnetic Nunchaku tier.

Dawn, this Haslab's on track to blow so far past every bonus that they could make up some serious after-the-fact extras. Lyzack and the Rescue Force would probably be too much to hope for, but I never thought this would happen either.
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Mar 07, 2025 12:18 am

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Bumblevivisector wrote:...and it just unlocked the Electromagnetic Nunchaku tier.

Dawn, this Haslab's on track to blow so far past every bonus that they could make up some serious after-the-fact extras. Lyzack and the Rescue Force would probably be too much to hope for, but I never thought this would happen either.
Lizack isn't happening because Hasbro and Takara don't own the rights to her.
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Bumblevivisector » Fri Mar 07, 2025 3:35 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Bumblevivisector wrote:...and it just unlocked the Electromagnetic Nunchaku tier.

Dawn, this Haslab's on track to blow so far past every bonus that they could make up some serious after-the-fact extras. Lyzack and the Rescue Force would probably be too much to hope for, but I never thought this would happen either.
Lizack isn't happening because Hasbro and Takara don't own the rights to her.
Then they can do a toy of her newly-discovered identical triplet sister Lubuazack, who happens to look just like her, but somehow different from Leozack, and give her a bio card that encourages collectors to repurpose her, fudging the Botcon/Wings tradition just a tad.

As for Big Rescue Force's elusive arm bots, I keep picturing Deathcobra repainted into Rescue Bots Blades, somewhere in the future, in the strangest of places...
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:02 pm

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The display stands have just been unlocked!
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Emerje » Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:18 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:The display stands have just been unlocked!

Must have just happened, it was still under 17K a few hours ago after they sent the last email about G.I.Joe pre-orders.

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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Bumblevivisector » Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:34 am

If the extra-super-surprise tier continues the tradition of Victory Haslabs coming with 2 Micromasters, the first official toys of Riker and especially Clipper would be appropriate with the first official Deathcobra, since she was framed for killing the elusive Crocohind before he could merge into his rightful place. They'd be easy retools of Siege Blackjack and Hyperdrive too, much less work than Boater and Pipo.
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Bumblevivisector » Fri Mar 21, 2025 2:09 am

And it just broke 20,000!

Have they still not added Japan's backers?
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Re: Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser Discussion

Postby Emerje » Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:49 am

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Bumblevivisector wrote:And it just broke 20,000!

Have they still not added Japan's backers?

Pretty sure Takara Tomy Mall orders have been rolled in regularly since Deathsaurus instead of occasional lumps like with Unicron and Victory Saber.

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Haslab LioKaiser Surpasses 20,000 And Gets a New Video Highlighting Improvements

Postby Emerje » Fri Mar 21, 2025 9:31 am

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Emily and Evan have posted a new video today announcing Haslab Transformers Victory LioKaiser reaching and surpassing its fully funded goal, currently at over 20,000 sets backed. That means all announced tiers have been reached with a little time left for project backing. The campaign ends at 11:59PM ET on March 24, 2025, this coming Monday.

The video also highlights changes that have been recently made to the figures still in their early stage.

Leozak - Panels added to hide his head in jet mode and the screws in LioKaisers chest.
Gaihawk and Ellbat - Their Chest Animals have been altered so the peg no longer sticks out in bot mode. Also the intakes have been changed on their shoulders to fold back instead of forward so they don't get in the way of the combined mode.
Jaruga - The combiner parts that connect to the top of him have been modified to look like missile pods.
Drillhorn and Killbison - They now have wheels hidden in their tracks so they can roll.
Deathcobra - Thigh rotation has been added and in canon mode all of the Chest Animals can be connected to him.



With just over 3 days remaining we're hitting that now or never point. Let us know in the Seibertron Energon Pub forums if any of the changes were enough to get you on board or not.
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