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ZeroWolf wrote:megatronus wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Easy, because this is all hasbro, thus all proceeds go to Hasbro. Masterpieces are Takara's baby.
Factually incorrect. Takara gets a cut of ALL transforming toys Hasbro makes.
True, but I'd imagine more proceeds would go into Tamara's pocket of they were reissuing then simply going this route where takara will be getting the bare minimum owed.
First-Aid wrote:megatronus wrote:It's exasperating when folks zero in on the "it HAS to be THIS way" flavor of critique. It risks coming off as entitled, and misses the forest for the trees.
I think Transfans rank second only to Star Wars fans for whiny-ness if things aren't EXACTLY the way they should be...aka not G1 enough.
I agree. This looks like it's going to be a fun figure. And honestly, the price point isn't that far off based on its size. One figure is pretty much Commander class sized and the other is Leader class sized...PLUS you get a small deluxe. So Commander at $80, Leader at $55, and deluxe at $25. The total is is $160 and we invested $190. That's perfect...the extra is for custom packaging.
What about Sonic fans? Or Thomas fans?sol magnus wrote:First-Aid wrote:megatronus wrote:It's exasperating when folks zero in on the "it HAS to be THIS way" flavor of critique. It risks coming off as entitled, and misses the forest for the trees.
I think Transfans rank second only to Star Wars fans for whiny-ness if things aren't EXACTLY the way they should be...aka not G1 enough.
I agree. This looks like it's going to be a fun figure. And honestly, the price point isn't that far off based on its size. One figure is pretty much Commander class sized and the other is Leader class sized...PLUS you get a small deluxe. So Commander at $80, Leader at $55, and deluxe at $25. The total is is $160 and we invested $190. That's perfect...the extra is for custom packaging.
Nope. Third. G.I. Joe fans are far worse than Transformers fans, and it makes sense to a degree. Marvel Legends fans are probably about even.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:What about Sonic fans? Or Thomas fans?sol magnus wrote:First-Aid wrote:megatronus wrote:It's exasperating when folks zero in on the "it HAS to be THIS way" flavor of critique. It risks coming off as entitled, and misses the forest for the trees.
I think Transfans rank second only to Star Wars fans for whiny-ness if things aren't EXACTLY the way they should be...aka not G1 enough.
I agree. This looks like it's going to be a fun figure. And honestly, the price point isn't that far off based on its size. One figure is pretty much Commander class sized and the other is Leader class sized...PLUS you get a small deluxe. So Commander at $80, Leader at $55, and deluxe at $25. The total is is $160 and we invested $190. That's perfect...the extra is for custom packaging.
Nope. Third. G.I. Joe fans are far worse than Transformers fans, and it makes sense to a degree. Marvel Legends fans are probably about even.![]()
(Though, the latter's constant complaints are arguably justified.)
sol magnus wrote:First-Aid wrote:megatronus wrote:It's exasperating when folks zero in on the "it HAS to be THIS way" flavor of critique. It risks coming off as entitled, and misses the forest for the trees.
I think Transfans rank second only to Star Wars fans for whiny-ness if things aren't EXACTLY the way they should be...aka not G1 enough.
I agree. This looks like it's going to be a fun figure. And honestly, the price point isn't that far off based on its size. One figure is pretty much Commander class sized and the other is Leader class sized...PLUS you get a small deluxe. So Commander at $80, Leader at $55, and deluxe at $25. The total is is $160 and we invested $190. That's perfect...the extra is for custom packaging.
Nope. Third. G.I. Joe fans are far worse than Transformers fans, and it makes sense to a degree. Marvel Legends fans are probably about even.
GrangerPerry wrote:sol magnus wrote:First-Aid wrote:megatronus wrote:It's exasperating when folks zero in on the "it HAS to be THIS way" flavor of critique. It risks coming off as entitled, and misses the forest for the trees.
I think Transfans rank second only to Star Wars fans for whiny-ness if things aren't EXACTLY the way they should be...aka not G1 enough.
I agree. This looks like it's going to be a fun figure. And honestly, the price point isn't that far off based on its size. One figure is pretty much Commander class sized and the other is Leader class sized...PLUS you get a small deluxe. So Commander at $80, Leader at $55, and deluxe at $25. The total is is $160 and we invested $190. That's perfect...the extra is for custom packaging.
Nope. Third. G.I. Joe fans are far worse than Transformers fans, and it makes sense to a degree. Marvel Legends fans are probably about even.
I find it interesting all these franchises believed to have toxic fans are all Hasbro… Is it the fans or are the fans on to something? I like the Victory Saber figure I just hope if they were doing something exclusive in the future they pick something a bit more niche for collectors. MP Star Saber was on sale for 170 for a few years so cheaper than this guy and Hasbro released first Masterpiece Firebolt the weapon master for hot rod that Takara later re released. I like when transforming joints can be used as articulation so the butterfly joint is nice. I just hope they don’t change the color scheme on everyone that paid for him already like they did Unicron
GrangerPerry wrote:sol magnus wrote:First-Aid wrote:megatronus wrote:It's exasperating when folks zero in on the "it HAS to be THIS way" flavor of critique. It risks coming off as entitled, and misses the forest for the trees.
I think Transfans rank second only to Star Wars fans for whiny-ness if things aren't EXACTLY the way they should be...aka not G1 enough.
I agree. This looks like it's going to be a fun figure. And honestly, the price point isn't that far off based on its size. One figure is pretty much Commander class sized and the other is Leader class sized...PLUS you get a small deluxe. So Commander at $80, Leader at $55, and deluxe at $25. The total is is $160 and we invested $190. That's perfect...the extra is for custom packaging.
Nope. Third. G.I. Joe fans are far worse than Transformers fans, and it makes sense to a degree. Marvel Legends fans are probably about even.
I find it interesting all these franchises believed to have toxic fans are all Hasbro… Is it the fans or are the fans on to something? I like the Victory Saber figure I just hope if they were doing something exclusive in the future they pick something a bit more niche for collectors. MP Star Saber was on sale for 170 for a few years so cheaper than this guy and Hasbro released first Masterpiece Firebolt the weapon master for hot rod that Takara later re released. I like when transforming joints can be used as articulation so the butterfly joint is nice. I just hope they don’t change the color scheme on everyone that paid for him already like they did Unicron
william-james88 wrote:I hope you don't mind me messing with you writing Tamara, Zerowolf. I did have an ex called Tamara so seeing that autocorrect always makes me chuckle.
Oh, a number of things over the years: the Magic Railroad movie (it's mainly the non-US fans who dislike it the most) the HiT Era, the Miller Era, the BWBA Era, the BWBA movie, "Misty Island Rescue", "Day of the Diesels", the 1998 rerelease of the Railway Series books by Egmont that edited all of the artwork for the worse, the era of Mattel toys that used little-to-no paint at all on the wooden toys, Mattel's overall mistreatment of the property in general, and most recently and most notably of all: the "All Engines Go!" reboot series.ZeroWolf wrote:I'm morbidly curious as to what the Thomas fans would even complain about...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Oh, a number of things over the years: the Magic Railroad movie (it's mainly the non-US fans who dislike it the most) the HiT Era, the Miller Era, the BWBA Era, the BWBA movie, "Misty Island Rescue", "Day of the Diesels", the 1998 rerelease of the Railway Series books by Egmont that edited all of the artwork for the worse, the era of Mattel toys that used little-to-no paint at all on the wooden toys, Mattel's overall mistreatment of the property in general, and most recently and most notably of all: the "All Engines Go!" reboot series.ZeroWolf wrote:I'm morbidly curious as to what the Thomas fans would even complain about...
He is probably referring to when the show used live-action models on realistic sets instead of being all CGI-animated, or instead of the current reboot series "All Engines Go!" that looks like... this.sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Oh, a number of things over the years: the Magic Railroad movie (it's mainly the non-US fans who dislike it the most) the HiT Era, the Miller Era, the BWBA Era, the BWBA movie, "Misty Island Rescue", "Day of the Diesels", the 1998 rerelease of the Railway Series books by Egmont that edited all of the artwork for the worse, the era of Mattel toys that used little-to-no paint at all on the wooden toys, Mattel's overall mistreatment of the property in general, and most recently and most notably of all: the "All Engines Go!" reboot series.ZeroWolf wrote:I'm morbidly curious as to what the Thomas fans would even complain about...
My son , 9, mentions often how he likes "Classic Thomas" over "the new Thomas" whatever that means.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
First-Aid wrote:I agree. This looks like it's going to be a fun figure. And honestly, the price point isn't that far off based on its size. One figure is pretty much Commander class sized and the other is Leader class sized...PLUS you get a small deluxe. So Commander at $80, Leader at $55, and deluxe at $25. The total is is $160 and we invested $190. That's perfect...the extra is for custom packaging.
Sabrblade wrote:He is probably referring to when the show used live-action models on realistic sets instead of being all CGI-animated, or instead of the current reboot series "All Engines Go!" that looks like... this.sol magnus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Oh, a number of things over the years: the Magic Railroad movie (it's mainly the non-US fans who dislike it the most) the HiT Era, the Miller Era, the BWBA Era, the BWBA movie, "Misty Island Rescue", "Day of the Diesels", the 1998 rerelease of the Railway Series books by Egmont that edited all of the artwork for the worse, the era of Mattel toys that used little-to-no paint at all on the wooden toys, Mattel's overall mistreatment of the property in general, and most recently and most notably of all: the "All Engines Go!" reboot series.ZeroWolf wrote:I'm morbidly curious as to what the Thomas fans would even complain about...
My son , 9, mentions often how he likes "Classic Thomas" over "the new Thomas" whatever that means.
In a nutshell, the series started off being as realistic as possible with intelligent writing (taken straight from the books the show was based on) and quality narration (especially from Ringo Starr, George Carlin, Michael Angelis, Alec Baldwin, and even Pierce Brosnan for one of the movies) to gradually becoming dumber and dumber over time (barring a notable resurgence in quality during the middle of the CGI series--known as the "Brenner Era"--but which fell back down to dumbness afterward), until finally becoming as mind-numbingly bad as any run-of-the-mill children' series with next to no real substance at all.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
o.supreme wrote:This is appreciated. I watched the video when it first came out on Friday, then when it was uploaded to YouTube Saturday, I commented that I'd like to see some more size comparisons. This is great. I mean ideally, it probably could have been slightly larger. If the brain master unit was the same size as a Titan Master, I'm not sure how much larger the whole thing would have been, but I'm satisfied with what we are getting.
As for God Ginrai. I have my TR Magnus Prime and Legends God Bomber so it works. I have ER Optimus, Kingdom Rodimus, TR Fort Max, and Legends Dai Atlas. So Star/ Victory Saber is the only one I'm missing ( well and Selects Star Convoy, which I may go back and try to get if a good deal comes along). I'm glad I pre ordered the Haslab, it's looking good so far.
Sabrblade wrote:What about Sonic fans? Or Thomas fans?sol magnus wrote:First-Aid wrote:megatronus wrote:It's exasperating when folks zero in on the "it HAS to be THIS way" flavor of critique. It risks coming off as entitled, and misses the forest for the trees.
I think Transfans rank second only to Star Wars fans for whiny-ness if things aren't EXACTLY the way they should be...aka not G1 enough.
I agree. This looks like it's going to be a fun figure. And honestly, the price point isn't that far off based on its size. One figure is pretty much Commander class sized and the other is Leader class sized...PLUS you get a small deluxe. So Commander at $80, Leader at $55, and deluxe at $25. The total is is $160 and we invested $190. That's perfect...the extra is for custom packaging.
Nope. Third. G.I. Joe fans are far worse than Transformers fans, and it makes sense to a degree. Marvel Legends fans are probably about even.![]()
(Though, the latter's constant complaints are arguably justified.)
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What about Sonic fans? Or Thomas fans?sol magnus wrote:First-Aid wrote:megatronus wrote:It's exasperating when folks zero in on the "it HAS to be THIS way" flavor of critique. It risks coming off as entitled, and misses the forest for the trees.
I think Transfans rank second only to Star Wars fans for whiny-ness if things aren't EXACTLY the way they should be...aka not G1 enough.
I agree. This looks like it's going to be a fun figure. And honestly, the price point isn't that far off based on its size. One figure is pretty much Commander class sized and the other is Leader class sized...PLUS you get a small deluxe. So Commander at $80, Leader at $55, and deluxe at $25. The total is is $160 and we invested $190. That's perfect...the extra is for custom packaging.
Nope. Third. G.I. Joe fans are far worse than Transformers fans, and it makes sense to a degree. Marvel Legends fans are probably about even.![]()
(Though, the latter's constant complaints are arguably justified.)
Hot Wheels and Nerf fans are the worst by a long, long mile.
One thing I forgot to mention is the leg storage for the blade reminded me of something, another toy that shared some design cues from Star Saber.
King Exkiser.
I can see Takara retooling Star Saber into a new modern King Exkiser.
ZeroWolf wrote:If you don't mind me asking, why didn't you use Legends Super Ginrai to go with Godbomber?
ZeroWolf wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:One thing I forgot to mention is the leg storage for the blade reminded me of something, another toy that shared some design cues from Star Saber.
King Exkiser.
I can see Takara retooling Star Saber into a new modern King Exkiser.
Can they though? Bandai owns the BRAVE series, I think they might have something to say about it
o.supreme wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:If you don't mind me asking, why didn't you use Legends Super Ginrai to go with Godbomber?
Absolutely a fair question. I was considering getting Legends Super Ginrai when I found out the TR PM Prime would not be compatible with God Bomber, but when I found out the Siege on Cybertron set was coming out, which had essentially the same toy, plus a few others I didn't mind owning, for a better deal overall, the choice was pretty simple. Even the special LGEX release of God Ginrai was more expensive to import than Legends God Bomber and TR Siege on Cybertron set altogether, or they were very close in price, and just getting the TR Siege set offered more toys for my money.
*edit* looking back at my purchases from BBTS in May of 2017 I ordered the Siege on Cybertron set for $100 (Legends Super Ginrai was almost this expensive on its own). Legends God Bomber was $70 to import as it was coming close to being out of stock.
I think when LGEX God Ginrai came out it was close to, if not more than $170 altogether to import...
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