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Personally I'm glad they focused on Victory Saber's height, otherwise Star Saber himself would be rather too big for my tastes and make his fellow 'Bots seem puny. Maybe I'm also a sucker for how adorably small the Brain of Courage figure is, but I do like how Saber becomes the big and powerful Supreme Commander with the size Star Saber has. Even Victory Leo being smaller to compensate for Victory Saber's scale doesn't really feel that out of place.

Then again, I'm not a big fan of toys being big for the sake of being big. That's also probably why.

I s'pose my similar "Fine by me" attitude could apply to Deathsaurus who is also scaled towards Victory Saber would mean we'd get a Deathy toy that'd rival Scorponok in height if it were bigger(!) which I'm definitely not interested in.

SpaceEagle wrote:I s'pose my similar "Fine by me" attitude could apply to Deathsaurus who is also scaled towards Victory Saber would mean we'd get a Deathy toy that'd rival Scorponok in height if it were bigger(!) which I'm definitely not interested in.

Deathsaurus is actually supposed to be shorter than Victory Saber, more equal to Star Saber's height. This makes his HasLab toy correctly scaled, CHUG-wise, like MP Star Saber.

Had HasLab Star Saber been correctly scaled to be as tall as the MP, his Victory Saber form would have probably been approximately as tall as, say, Armada Unicron, which is adequately taller than a CW combiner, but still way smaller than the smallest of the Titan class figures.

SpaceEagle wrote:Personally I'm glad they focused on Victory Saber's height, otherwise Star Saber himself would be rather too big for my tastes and make his fellow 'Bots seem puny. Maybe I'm also a sucker for how adorably small the Brain of Courage figure is, but I do like how Saber becomes the big and powerful Supreme Commander with the size Star Saber has. Even Victory Leo being smaller to compensate for Victory Saber's scale doesn't really feel that out of place.

Then again, I'm not a big fan of toys being big for the sake of being big. That's also probably why.

I s'pose my similar "Fine by me" attitude could apply to Deathsaurus who is also scaled towards Victory Saber would mean we'd get a Deathy toy that'd rival Scorponok in height if it were bigger(!) which I'm definitely not interested in.

This is how I feel as well.

Sabrblade wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:I s'pose my similar "Fine by me" attitude could apply to Deathsaurus who is also scaled towards Victory Saber would mean we'd get a Deathy toy that'd rival Scorponok in height if it were bigger(!) which I'm definitely not interested in.

Deathsaurus is actually supposed to be shorter than Victory Saber, more equal to Star Saber's height. This makes his HasLab toy correctly scaled, CHUG-wise, like MP Star Saber.

Had HasLab Star Saber been correctly scaled to be as tall as the MP, his Victory Saber form would have probably been approximately as tall as, say, Armada Unicron, which is adequately taller than a CW combiner, but still way smaller than the smallest of the Titan class figures.

Good comparison; just looking at my display (I have my set next to my Titan class figures), Star Saber seems perfectly sized to me, and if he were bigger it'd make the Titans look really wonky scale-wise.

Mp Star Saber is amazing and scales perfectly with the Generations crew. I highly recommend getting it.

I dug out my Gen Selects Star Convoy figure (not sure why I put it away, I love the figure) and having him side by side with Star Saber looks amazing.

I'm happy with the height. Maybe it's because I can't put him in my main display right now, maybe it's because I never saw Victory but bought him because of how cool he is and some small nostalgia for the KO and beat up G1 I got early in collecting.

I've never been as militant about scale as some others. So I guess there's that too.

Gotta take some time to check out the Japanese TV shows sometime. Get a proper appreciation for those characters.

I'm satisfied with the height as well, I'm not too stringent on how big Victory made him

So both my StarSabres have one of the two holes filled where the red jet's nosecone attaches so I wrote to Hasbro Pulse. Not super happy with what's happening now since I'm just getting info that my messages are being forwarded. And they recomend I write to them if I want. I thought there was dedicated support for the product. I don't doubt the issue will be resolved, but I'd rather they figure it out on their end rather than invite me to play telephone.

william-james88 wrote:So both my StarSabres have one of the two holes filled where the red jet's nosecone attaches so I wrote to Hasbro Pulse. Not super happy with what's happening now since I'm just getting info that my messages are being forwarded. And they recomend I write to them if I want. I thought there was dedicated support for the product. I don't doubt the issue will be resolved, but I'd rather they figure it out on their end rather than invite me to play telephone.

Can you share a picture of that specific defect? Because I can't picture it.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:So both my StarSabres have one of the two holes filled where the red jet's nosecone attaches so I wrote to Hasbro Pulse. Not super happy with what's happening now since I'm just getting info that my messages are being forwarded. And they recomend I write to them if I want. I thought there was dedicated support for the product. I don't doubt the issue will be resolved, but I'd rather they figure it out on their end rather than invite me to play telephone.

Can you share a picture of that specific defect? Because I can't picture it.

This is the most common defect reported thus far.

I'm not sure but it's that, right?



If yes, it's at least fixable but still unforgivable for such an high-end collectible.

I wonder what I should do with my second set? Open it and transform everything to make sure there is no defects but in doing so removing its "sealed" status, or leaving it sealed and warn in a future listing that the thing was not inspected and may come with defects?

Saying it wasn't inspected and warning the buyer is probably the best bet. At least for a truly MISB type deal!

SpaceEagle wrote:Saying it wasn't inspected and warning the buyer is probably the best bet. At least for a truly MISB type deal!

I'll go that route. It will even be DOUBLE SEALED, meaning the main shipping box not even open.
This will save me trouble.

I do wonder. Should I consider myself "lucky" that the VS I opened was perfect without defects? Because despite all the reports, there's over 25K units out there so even if 100 reported defects on the net, there's still over 25K units that are either without defects (assumingly). So the overall % of defective units should be basically insignificant.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:Saying it wasn't inspected and warning the buyer is probably the best bet. At least for a truly MISB type deal!

I'll go that route. It will even be DOUBLE SEALED, meaning the main shipping box not even open.
This will save me trouble.

I do wonder. Should I consider myself "lucky" that the VS I opened was perfect without defects? Because despite all the reports, there's over 25K units out there so even if 100 reported defects on the net, there's still over 25K units that are either without defects (assumingly). So the overall % of defective units should be basically insignificant.

Double sealed will probably make it a lot better to protect you from any unhappy comments, you did warn them accordingly!

I'm also very lucky that my copy had zero defects and feels great, and other people I've seen that made reviews of it also seemed to have good copies. Maybe some of them were from a bad batch, sadly.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm not sure but it's that, right?



If yes, it's at least fixable but still unforgivable for such an high-end collectible.

I wonder what I should do with my second set? Open it and transform everything to make sure there is no defects but in doing so removing its "sealed" status, or leaving it sealed and warn in a future listing that the thing was not inspected and may come with defects?

It's gonna be tough to fix, since the entire hole is filled

A small drill and a sharp cutter knife will do the job.

So I'm still waiting for my set, tracking says it hasn't even left california

Opened one of my two and aside from everything falling out because the slip cover stayed in the box and I was holding it on end, everything seems to be perfectly fine. No obvious broken parts, no missing parts, chrome is clear, overpaint is minimal. I took them through all forms but the bot combination. Had a small scare when I was changing one of the rear lion legs and heard a tiny piece of plastic fall into the box, I thought I had sheered something off, but it was just some plastic flashing that didn't get cleaned off. Some of the joints are concerningly stiff, especially Leo's wrists and the changing pivot, but nothing broke. Really a fun set of figures, it blows away anything we've gotten in Commander class and for the price it should.

The Micromasters, though, are suffering from mold degeneration, especially their hips that keep popping off worse than their mold mates from WFC which were already pretty bad. They'll be mainly staying in bot mode so it isn't a big deal.

Emerje

So frustrating...my VS still hasn't arrived. Today is day 3 of it actually being on a FedEx Truck for Delivery. The past 2 days, they haven't been able to deliver because of "weather delays", which is a blatant lie. There has been no inclement weather. Its been totally clear. I've read online that this is a generic fill-in for "we had too many packages to deliver and just didn't get to you"....

I've tried all different ways to contact FedEx directly, but their automated system wont let you talk to a human; its total BS. I may reach out to Hasbro and have them launch a complaint against FedEx.

SpaceEagle wrote:Not to flex my brain matter, but I just assumed since this had the same designer that also made the MP version of Sabey, he'd probably have storage for the sword in the same spot! Then I checked the figure itself and voila, I was right.

Wait, there's a way to store the sword in a slot on the back, like on the show?

I got mine today and I did the cursory check for visible QC issues and so far so good. I could even see that both holes for the cockpit to peg in are there. Looking forward to busting it out later.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:Not to flex my brain matter, but I just assumed since this had the same designer that also made the MP version of Sabey, he'd probably have storage for the sword in the same spot! Then I checked the figure itself and voila, I was right.

Wait, there's a way to store the sword in a slot on the back, like on the show?

I got mine today and I did the cursory check for visible QC issues and so far so good. I could even see that both holes for the cockpit to peg in are there. Looking forward to busting it out later.

Oh, I was referring to the leg slot, it fits nicely into a cavity sculpted into either forearm when transforming into vehicle mode. I think the full Saber Blade can peg into his back but I don't think I've made sure!

william-james88 wrote:So both my StarSabres have one of the two holes filled where the red jet's nosecone attaches so I wrote to Hasbro Pulse. Not super happy with what's happening now since I'm just getting info that my messages are being forwarded. And they recomend I write to them if I want. I thought there was dedicated support for the product. I don't doubt the issue will be resolved, but I'd rather they figure it out on their end rather than invite me to play telephone.

That is the issue with mine as well. I am unhappy with that, seems like a silly thing to have wrong

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Because of that this set has a leg up since we're getting Victory Leo.

Are you saying that MP Victory Leo will finally be a thing? I never heard it announced from anywhere.

I think he means this set has a leg up on ole MP 24 Because it is Victory Star Saber.

I do wonder why Takara never followed through with Victory Leo, did MP24 not sell well?

Even though it was the best selling toy the first week it was released, it quickly dropped off and is the worst selling MP in history.

To be fair I kind of understand that. Aside from being a relatively obsure character, the MP is imho underwhelming. It does not so much transform, rather it lies down and pulls up his legs. Aside from the leg catch which I missed, I did not need the instructions at all.

Yes the first MP Megatron was worse but he had a lot more to achieve.

As for this set, I honestly cannot say if it is overpriced or not but QC issues on a set like this? Unacceptable. This is Unicron (with the mismatched lower jaw and blue maw all over again.

I hope people can get their detective sets replaced.

Got an email this morning from FedEx. Apparently my Victory Saber is out for delivery today. Hopefully I can return home in time to sign for it.