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BenSimmonsTF wrote:I hope them make a change about Leo's arms hanging at the backpack of Victory Saber. Just do a flip that the fist can transform into a thruster or something.

It has already been done and shown at a convention. The color renders they are showing now were done on early test prototypes that have Victory Leo slightly mistransformed for the combination. Later displays at the conventions have shown the arms to be transformed slightly different to hide the hands.

I was originally going to back this but no matter how hard I try, I just don't like it. That spaceship design is awful. I tried talking myself into it but it's so bad I can't overlook all the flaws. I really like the robot mode but it's just not something I NEED.

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:I was originally going to back this but no matter how hard I try.

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Nemesis Reformatted wrote:I was originally going to back this but no matter how hard I try, I just don't like it. That spaceship design is awful. I tried talking myself into it but it's so bad I can't overlook all the flaws. I really like the robot mode but it's just not something I NEED.

You could always back it anyway then sell it for a profit later on

william-james88 wrote:Anyone else thinking of buying a second one to make an easy buck?

The way I see it, everybody wins. One more gets ordered, adding to what's needed to reach a tier and unlike Scalping, you buying more does not limit anyone from getting one. Then, since we know this item is limited, can only be bought once, and won't be available at retail, it is certain that not everyone who might be interested in this cool toy one day is ordering one now. So there's a nice opportunity to sell this toy at a markup later.

As with all toys that were once easy to get but now are not.

Yes. I'm getting two. Easy money.

Two weeks left and still no Japanese orders yet. Either they simply aren't going to take orders or Hasbro is going to have to extend it just to give Takara Tomy Mall time to work out the logistics.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Two weeks left and still no Japanese orders yet. Either they simply aren't going to take orders or Hasbro is going to have to extend it just to give Takara Tomy Mall time to work out the logistics.

Emerje

They also could just buy a certain amount to sell to Japan. That said, I'm thinking that Takara might not take orders because someone on TFW pointed out that Robot Kingdom is able to sell to Victory Saber in Japan, but they weren't allowed to do that with Unicron. So if that's true, then Takara might not be taking the orders and just assume that Japanese fans will go through that until they decide to add orders

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Emerje wrote:Two weeks left and still no Japanese orders yet. Either they simply aren't going to take orders or Hasbro is going to have to extend it just to give Takara Tomy Mall time to work out the logistics.

Emerje

They also could just buy a certain amount to sell to Japan. That said, I'm thinking that Takara might not take orders because someone on TFW pointed out that Robot Kingdom is able to sell to Victory Saber in Japan, but they weren't allowed to do that with Unicron. So if that's true, then Takara might not be taking the orders and just assume that Japanese fans will go through that until they decide to add orders

It would be very ironic if the figures that Hasbro keeps telling us is so Japanese is sold nearly everywhere in the world except for Japan.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Emerje wrote:Two weeks left and still no Japanese orders yet. Either they simply aren't going to take orders or Hasbro is going to have to extend it just to give Takara Tomy Mall time to work out the logistics.

Emerje

They also could just buy a certain amount to sell to Japan. That said, I'm thinking that Takara might not take orders because someone on TFW pointed out that Robot Kingdom is able to sell to Victory Saber in Japan, but they weren't allowed to do that with Unicron. So if that's true, then Takara might not be taking the orders and just assume that Japanese fans will go through that until they decide to add orders

It would be very ironic if the figures that Hasbro keeps telling us is so Japanese is sold nearly everywhere in the world except for Japan.

Emerje

I just think it would suck for Japanese fans who actually grew up with this character.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Emerje wrote:Two weeks left and still no Japanese orders yet. Either they simply aren't going to take orders or Hasbro is going to have to extend it just to give Takara Tomy Mall time to work out the logistics.

Emerje

They also could just buy a certain amount to sell to Japan. That said, I'm thinking that Takara might not take orders because someone on TFW pointed out that Robot Kingdom is able to sell to Victory Saber in Japan, but they weren't allowed to do that with Unicron. So if that's true, then Takara might not be taking the orders and just assume that Japanese fans will go through that until they decide to add orders

That would be quite the backstab to the fans there: "You're resourceful, you figure it out, who cares if it would cost you more because of import duties".

The reveal of the colors this week looked really nice. I think Victory Leo, specifically in the face, could benefit from some more paint apps or slight adjustments, but overall it looks nice. Looking forward to seeing where we end up

Well, Takara just acknowledged that they will be releasing Victory Saber as a TTM exclusive funding option. More details are going to be coming later on, but at least now we have confirmation that Takara's not just going to tell Japanese fans to figure it out

It was odd that Takara had been silent on Star Saber and Victory Leo being offered in Japan since that was the audience that grew up with these characters and would have the most nostalgia for it. But they finally tweeted out that it would be coming and details will be posted soon. There are less than 2 weeks left so not much time for Japan. However preorder windows for TTMall exclusives have been narrow in the past as well and this will be offered through TTMall.

Here was the tweet:

Information will be lifted soon! / Hasbro crowdfunding products. Victory Saver Hasbro's second Transformers crowdfunding product, "Victory Saver," will be announced at TAKARATOMY MALL in the near future.

william-james88 wrote:FYI, the stand we are seeing is the final version, it will not be painted.

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I've heard some fans on other sites say that fans in Japan don't need a lot of time to make a decision on whether to back this or not. I'm not in total agreement. I mean sure there are cultural differences among everyone around the world, but when it comes to spending what is the equivalent of about $200 USD on a toy (and for most countries the price is higher), I'm sure it's not something everyone can just make a snap decision on. We may decide we want or don't want it relatively soon, but the reality of being able to do so may take time.

I still reference back to Legends Grand Max. That was also a short window, just 2 weeks, and ONLY through TT Mall. They got 2000+ backers (we don't know the final number), but it was less than 3000 to include the stretch goal. If the window to order it had been longer, it might have reached that amount.

I mean I'm not going to complain. 2 weeks is better than them not having an opportunity at all, and I'm sure it will fund now. As for stretch goals, I'm not fully convinced, but we shall see, I hope I am wrong.

King Kuuga wrote:

william-james88 wrote:FYI, the stand we are seeing is the final version, it will not be painted.

Posts that did not age well.

and that's a good thing.
Turns out I misinterpreted what Hasbro said. They said a clear stand. I guess it indeed still is.

o.supreme wrote: just 2 weeks, and ONLY through TT Mall. They got 2000+ backers (we don't know the final number), but it was less than 3000 to include the stretch goal. If the window to order it had been longer, it might have reached that amount.

Don't know, but yeah Takara does like to do short order windows. I forget what the windows for other TTMal exclusives were but I remember them being short too. I think that's what online people mean when they say Japanese people don't need long preorder windows. It's more them commenting on the norm there rather than how a Japanese fan lives their life.

huh... I had assumed that this was already up for backing in Japan. Guess that's what I get for thinking Hopefully this means that we will see a big jump in the backing numbers, and that we will get all three tiers.

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote: just 2 weeks, and ONLY through TT Mall. They got 2000+ backers (we don't know the final number), but it was less than 3000 to include the stretch goal. If the window to order it had been longer, it might have reached that amount.

Don't know, but yeah Takara does like to do short order windows. I forget what the windows for other TTMal exclusives were but I remember them being short too. I think that's what online people mean when they say Japanese people don't need long preorder windows. It's more them commenting on the norm there rather than how a Japanese fan lives their life.

In Japan payday is the 25th of every month everywhere, the majority aren't paid weekly or biweekly like we are in the west. This is why big ticket items like Masterpiece figures tend to be released towards the end of the month there. This is also when people are more likely to make impulse purchases so it makes some sense that they would give a short window to give them less time to think about it. When Unicron was up for order they didn't allow cancellations and I'm guessing the same will be true this time, too.

Emerje

That is interesting. Thanks for sharing. I would have thought that in a country where there are untold numbers of private and public companies, (same as in many other places) that paydates would be all over the place, as in the west. Man, I bet shopping is a pain around those times, well it kind of is here also (1st of the month), but if you plan ahead, you can avoid the crowds. Of course we've been having our groceries delivered, or been doing pickup, but obviously not everyone can do that.

Immortal Starscream wrote:huh... I had assumed that this was already up for backing in Japan. Guess that's what I get for thinking Hopefully this means that we will see a big jump in the backing numbers, and that we will get all three tiers.

I think at bare minimum this seals the deal on 11,000. Not that I had much doubt on that part, but still a good feeling!

o.supreme wrote:That is interesting. Thanks for sharing. I would have thought that in a country where there are untold numbers of private and public companies, (same as in many other places) that paydates would be all over the place, as in the west. Man, I bet shopping is a pain around those times, well it kind of is here also (1st of the month), but if you plan ahead, you can avoid the crowds. Of course we've been having our groceries delivered, or been doing pickup, but obviously not everyone can do that.

Anime would have me believe that asking for a cash advance from your employer when funds get tight isn't entirely unheard of. In fact when doublechecking my understanding of this I found that they take a month to calculate wages and wages from the 25th to the end of the month are calculated as a cash advance that gets corrected on the next payday if needed.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Takara tweet SILHOUETTES instead of the full color renders that are available on Pulse for days.

Why?

Same Takara that regularly shows gray model prototypes at live events (while Hasbro rarely shows anything that isn't at least hand painted). It's like they and Hasbro switched places for this.

Emerje

With this long overdue news, I fully expect my original backer count of 20,000 to be met