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HasLab have an awesome mouth gimmick, but the cost was that backpack. With the ridiculous size the HasLab is, they could have hidden ALL the panels and forgo that backpack. Zeta did what HasLab didn't. No regret getting out of my backing.

As for what is "definitive", it's a moot point. Official or not, NOTHING is "definitive". Ever. The MP line is proof enough.

I've seen the pictures of the Zeta-cron, and he is pretty... lame.

He has so little detail and he is really boring looking. Unicron needs greeble, and that one does not have it.

He's also small, which Unicron should not be. God class. not CW (non-titan) combiner class.

He'll be cheaper, but smaller and insignificant.

And it doesn’t have the crunching planet mouth or munching robot mouth it’s those features that make this so cool. And now they’re kind of luring away backers for the Haslab Unicron? Man, you can call that competition but I see it as a gallon of weak sauce in a pint glass. It couldn’t do it on its own it has to piggyback this legit fan backed project. Weak.

Zeta toys are for Zeta fans. I respect that.

I’ll stick with the Alpha dogs

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:He has so little detail and he is really boring looking.

He is G1, after all. You're also describing the MP Anime+ line.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:He's also small, which Unicron should not be.

In comparison to WHO? I'd like someone to put some real thought into this answer. Because all this talk of size, of scaling Unicron to anyone just sounds weird and nonsensical.

I'm not just comparing Zeta to HasLab, either. What size should the only active Planet Bot (in most fiction, barring UT) be? He is incomparable to the rest of the toyline, by design.

He doesn't simply stand above the rest, he stands apart from them. <- This should be the ethos of Unicron design.



Are people seriously thinking along these lines? Or the sensible and sane option: a figure you can comfortably hold in your hands?

Stargrave wrote:Zeta toys are for Zeta fans. I respect that.

I’ll stick with the Alpha dogs

Zeta fans? But they don't make toys based on Zeta Gundam or the Zeta Project... I'll see myself out...

I think the best option for an aptly scaled Unicron would be to make a Unicron costume to wear.

That actually sounds fun!

I AM UNICRON!!

Cobotron wrote:I think the best option for an aptly scaled Unicron would be to make a Unicron costume to wear.

That actually sounds fun!

I AM UNICRON!!

Transforming could be an issue mind.
"For a time, I considered sparing your wretched little planet of Cybertron...but now, you shall witness- OH CHRIST MY SPINE JUST DISCONNECTED SOMEONE CALL A DOCTOR"

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:He's also small, which Unicron should not be.

In comparison to WHO? I'd like someone to put some real thought into this answer. Because all this talk of size, of scaling Unicron to anyone just sounds weird and nonsensical.

I'm not just comparing Zeta to HasLab, either. What size should the only active Planet Bot (in most fiction, barring UT) be? He is incomparable to the rest of the toyline, by design.

By that logic, you ought to be questioning why they even made Armada Unicron bigger than the rest of the Armada line instead of just making him the same size as Super-Base Optimus and Tidal Wave.

Black Hat wrote:

Cobotron wrote:I think the best option for an aptly scaled Unicron would be to make a Unicron costume to wear.

That actually sounds fun!

I AM UNICRON!!

Transforming could be an issue mind.
"For a time, I considered sparing your wretched little planet of Cybertron...but now, you shall witness- OH CHRIST MY SPINE JUST DISCONNECTED SOMEONE CALL A DOCTOR"

Cobotron wrote:

Black Hat wrote:

Cobotron wrote:I think the best option for an aptly scaled Unicron would be to make a Unicron costume to wear.

That actually sounds fun!

I AM UNICRON!!

Transforming could be an issue mind.
"For a time, I considered sparing your wretched little planet of Cybertron...but now, you shall witness- OH CHRIST MY SPINE JUST DISCONNECTED SOMEONE CALL A DOCTOR"

You guys are killin me

Someone sure buys those 3ft tall Supermen and Batmen and John Cenas

Huge toys are fun they don’t have to be hand holdable necessarily.

Stargrave wrote:Someone sure buys those 3ft tall Supermen and Batmen and John Cenas

Huge toys are fun they don’t have to be hand holdable necessarily.

Plus no one is talking about scale, all D-Max said was that unicron should be big, bigger then the rest, not for scale purposes but because its Unicron, the Chaos Bringer.

The zorb comparison is hilarious.

It's actually embarrassing for Hasbro they have been so outclassed in this product. Watching the zeta offering ACTUALLY TRANSFORM to make the chest and arms etc is magical compared to the Haslab "lift up the 3 shell sections over his head and full body and stack them on his back.

Here's a thought: if you like Haslab Unicron, back it! Hope for the best.

If you like Zeta Unicron, buy it!

Having options is ALWAYS good. Stop bickering at each other for the crime of having different opinions on toys.

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:He's also small, which Unicron should not be.

In comparison to WHO? I'd like someone to put some real thought into this answer. Because all this talk of size, of scaling Unicron to anyone just sounds weird and nonsensical.

I'm not just comparing Zeta to HasLab, either. What size should the only active Planet Bot (in most fiction, barring UT) be? He is incomparable to the rest of the toyline, by design.

By that logic, you ought to be questioning why they even made Armada Unicron bigger than the rest of the Armada line instead of just making him the same size as Super-Base Optimus and Tidal Wave.

No, because I said he should stand apart from the rest.

Cobotron wrote:I think the best option for an aptly scaled Unicron would be to make a Unicron costume to wear.

That actually sounds fun!

I AM UNICRON!!

Oddly enough, back in the "Hasbro will never make" thread, I think I even said then some people would only be happy with a Unicron that is the size equivalent of cosplay

ZeroWolf wrote:Plus no one is talking about scale, all D-Max said was that unicron should be big, bigger then the rest, not for scale purposes but because its Unicron, the Chaos Bringer.

Other than those decrying the Zeta one as being "too small"
But this was the whole point of the question I asked, what is this optimal size people are envisioning him to be?

At the end of the day, Transformers (from base lines, to 3P, to MP) are still supposed to be practical transforming figures. Too big it's a statue on the floor, bigger than that is cosplay.

Ironhidensh wrote:Here's a thought: if you like Haslab Unicron, back it! Hope for the best.

If you like Zeta Unicron, buy it!

Having options is ALWAYS good. Stop bickering at each other for the crime of having different opinions on toys.

Instead of trying to shut down conversation with a dismissive comment on its perceived value, I think someone could benefit from a little fun in a Zorb...

Ironhidensh wrote:Here's a thought: if you like Haslab Unicron, back it! Hope for the best.

If you like Zeta Unicron, buy it!

Having options is ALWAYS good. Stop bickering at each other for the crime of having different opinions on toys.

Well actually Haslab cant be bothered to sell to UK fans so saying "just buy it if you like it" isnt actually applicable.

Ironhidensh wrote:Here's a thought: if you like Haslab Unicron, back it! Hope for the best.

If you like Zeta Unicron, buy it!

Having options is ALWAYS good. Stop bickering at each other for the crime of having different opinions on toys.

This is pretty much my take on it. I think Zeta is the better toy (though I'll only buy him if something happens to my beloved Armada 'cron) but I really hope they both get made so some madman can buy both and compare them.

PadForce wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Here's a thought: if you like Haslab Unicron, back it! Hope for the best.

If you like Zeta Unicron, buy it!

Having options is ALWAYS good. Stop bickering at each other for the crime of having different opinions on toys.

Well actually Haslab cant be bothered to sell to UK fans so saying "just buy it if you like it" isnt actually applicable.

HasLab can't be bothered selling outside of the US and Canada. You think you're the only country that has it rough?

Australia got incredibly lucky with our deal, but we know the rest of the world has been screwed over. HasLab have shot themselves in the feet by not trying to work with local retailers to get Unicron out to as many as possible.

Problem is I can't think of any British retailers (other then Kapow and In Demand Toys) that would have gone along with this, and they're may have been issues as to why the aforementioned Web retailers werent approached directly that we're just not privy to

Doesn't the UK have a chain store/franchise that would specialise in pop culture collectables?

Thought Australia had a partnered distributor,EB games wasnt it? My bad if not.

No pop culture chains that I know of. There is a distributor that is offering an order but the orders they say they have are 3x their balance sheet - I'm just not putting down £600 eith someone who when they see all that cash in their account would have the temptation to shut up shop and leave.. equally if anything happens to them over the next 18 months or 2 years what happens to your preorder?

All this just because Haslab cant be bothered