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JayDee wrote:This is great info, guys!
I can't wait to see the movie... now, you've talked about available (and future) character figures that are part of the movie and all the info fits great for us collectors' shopping needs, but I have a question: are there any movie characters that DO NOT HAVE as of now a toy representation? For example, if you watch the theatrical trailer at minute 1:46, in the scene where there's a battle at the desert, you can spot two decepticons that seem to be twins and that look a lot like the first movie version of Megatron, but they are definitely not him nor The Fallen... who are they? Skywarp and Thundercracker, or what? Will they have a toy version? Again, thanks for the info Blurzz!

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As already mentioned, a couple of Constructicons don't yet have seperate toys with bot modes (apart from the EZ collection versions) There's the third bike sister. There's a bunch of small Decepticon drones including a bird made of blades (who may or may not be Laserbeak), some tiny balls that turn into robots, some aborted fetus-bots, some brain slugs and a small mechanical mosquito. There's Alice. There's a load of household appliances that get Allsparked. There are the Ancient Primes (who mostly just look like the Fallen) and there a whole bunch of generics seen both in flashbacks and in the scene you mention. Alice, the mosquito, the generics, the fetuses and the Primes don't transform at all.

I don't know of any plans to make toys of these guys.

Aaaah, Ancient Primes!? Damn! They look cool.

hello everyone ı must say tomorrow is revenge day so sit tight and enjoy the film

D'ya recon if they have a refresh line, they'll make a canon or stealth cliffjumper? 'cos in that comic he was in, arcee and smokescreen seemed to die but they came back in rotf.
Sunstreaker would be cool too!

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everybodies is talking bout devastator and the constructicon toys and how they made seperate robot toys and then the non transforming devastator with only alt modes. although for anyone who seen the movie clearly the constructicon and devastator are seperate, notice how devi is seen with mudflap and skids, while long haul, scrapper, mixmaster and rampage are off finding sam and what not
in short i think the seprate toys and the non transformin dev. is accurate



btw
bonecrusher is in the movie he is seen in the last battle seen!yay!

Thanks for the list, this is just what I was looking for.

I noticed someone said the new ROTF Voyager Ratchet and Prime are actually less movie-accurate because of the repaints. Would there be any reason to get the ROTF Voyager Ratchet, Voyager Prime, Voyager Ironhide, or Preview Bumblebee if you already have the Premium versions of the originals? Were any improvements or major mold changes made to these new versions or are they either the same as the originals or even less accurate?

Am I correct that Cannon Bumblebee and Interrogator Barricade have had some significant mold changes from the previous Deluxe versions?

Am I correct that Smokescreen and Deep Desert Brawl are straight repaints of the original Deluxe versions? And it sounds like the upcoming Dead End, Swerve, Autobot Gears and Thrust are likewise just repaints of previous figures?

Finally, I'm not clear on the differences in Grindor or Stalker Scorponok. Are these just repaints of the first movie figures or will there be sculpt differences?

JediJones wrote:Would there be any reason to get the ROTF Voyager Ratchet, Voyager Prime, Voyager Ironhide, or Preview Bumblebee if you already have the Premium versions of the originals? Were any improvements or major mold changes made to these new versions or are they either the same as the originals or even less accurate?

Well, Bumblebee's head and arm cannon are more movie accurate. And Ironhide's head and arm cannons are more correct. But that's it.

JediJones wrote:Am I correct that Cannon Bumblebee and Interrogator Barricade have had some significant mold changes from the previous Deluxe versions?

Cannon BB has some significant mold changes. His entire upper torso and arms are completely new. His arms are more accurate, but they come with no hand weaponry at all. And his torso is less accurate.

As for Int. Barricade, there are zero changes to this figure. The only thing new is that claw accessory he comes with. He doesn't even have Frenzy anymore.

JediJones wrote:Am I correct that Smokescreen and Deep Desert Brawl are straight repaints of the original Deluxe versions? And it sounds like the upcoming Dead End, Swerve, Autobot Gears and Thrust are likewise just repaints of previous figures?

Deep Desert Brawl has his shoulders fixed, Dead End and Swerve have new headsculpts. Thrust is rumored to have a new head, but nothing has been confirmed. The rest are straight redecoes.

JediJones wrote:Finally, I'm not clear on the differences in Grindor or Stalker Scorponok. Are these just repaints of the first movie figures or will there be sculpt differences?

Both are straight redecoes (but Grindor was in the movie, so...).

JediJones wrote:Thanks for the list, this is just what I was looking for.

I noticed someone said the new ROTF Voyager Ratchet and Prime are actually less movie-accurate because of the repaints. Would there be any reason to get the ROTF Voyager Ratchet, Voyager Prime, Voyager Ironhide, or Preview Bumblebee if you already have the Premium versions of the originals? Were any improvements or major mold changes made to these new versions or are they either the same as the originals or even less accurate?

I'd say the Premium Versions are a bit better. Ratchet's Metallic Finish is superior to RotF, as well as Target's exclusive Voyager Prime. Voyager Ironhide's best rendition has to be the original 2007 Movie version. The Premium version is odd because it has snow detail on the windows. For the best Bumblebee, I guess the Premium Version would have to do. Really depends on your preference of having a Missile gun, or a Gun/Blade

JediJones wrote:Am I correct that Cannon Bumblebee and Interrogator Barricade have had some significant mold changes from the previous Deluxe versions?

Cannon Bumblebee has a completly altered chest, arms, etc. nterrogator Barricade has simple 'Light arms' added to the chest of the car, so it's really just the same mold.

JediJones wrote:Am I correct that Smokescreen and Deep Desert Brawl are straight repaints of the original Deluxe versions? And it sounds like the upcoming Dead End, Swerve, Autobot Gears and Thrust are likewise just repaints of previous figures?

Yes, Smokescreen and DD Brawl are straight repaints. Dead End, Swerve, and Thrust are repaints, however they have different head molds. Gears is a straight repaint.

JediJones wrote:Finally, I'm not clear on the differences in Grindor or Stalker Scorponok. Are these just repaints of the first movie figures or will there be sculpt differences?

There are no changes to these figures mold-wise, so it is correct to say they are straight repaints.

Deluxe Dead End's head looks like a M.A.S.K. homage to me