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Postby Malicron » Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:35 am

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Postby Deadpool. » Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:59 am

Whiner-tron wrote::)) LOL :))
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Behold... Trampitron! :P
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:34 am

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Postby Damolisher » Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:57 pm

*Projectial Vomits all over Ultimate Guide.*
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Postby Uniprimus » Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:20 pm

*worships guide*

I was dissopointed that there was no article on Primacron or the Oracle/Matrix/Primacron's assistant, cuz that episode left LOADS of stuff unanswered.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:28 pm

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Eradicator wrote:*worships guide*

I was dissopointed that there was no article on Primacron or the Oracle/Matrix/Primacron's assistant, cuz that episode left LOADS of stuff unanswered.


I know what you mean......but just incase you didnt know the "Primacron's assistant" looking like the Matrix of leadership thing was an animation error.But I still would have like to see how Furmen was going to try to explain it.......but he didnt even try :-?
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:39 pm

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Damolisher wrote:*Projectial Vomits all over Ultimate Guide.*


Pea soup green vomit?????????
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Postby Damolisher » Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:40 pm

Yeah, it's funny, since Furman pretty much bypassed anything that he didn't write.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:49 pm

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Damolisher wrote:Yeah, it's funny, since Furman pretty much bypassed anything that he didn't write.


or didnt like.
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Postby Damolisher » Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:01 pm

Yeah, that too. lol.
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Postby Uniprimus » Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:46 am

I hate retcons so much. Especially Furman's. He makes these huge retcons like "Hmmm...maybe we'll make TF's humans with metal skin."
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Postby Tekka » Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:56 am

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I've never really been into the comics, so I haven't really been subject to any of these retcons. It wasn't until recently I found out exactly what Primus was supposed to be. To be honest the concept of a Transformer god and Transformers 'growing' out of each other tends to bring up certain 'WTF' factors for me. From what I have seen of Simon Furman's work, it really isn't my style.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:39 pm

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Tekka wrote:I've never really been into the comics, so I haven't really been subject to any of these retcons. It wasn't until recently I found out exactly what Primus was supposed to be. To be honest the concept of a Transformer god and Transformers 'growing' out of each other tends to bring up certain 'WTF' factors for me. From what I have seen of Simon Furman's work, it really isn't my style.


His stories really arent all that bad.The problem is that he tries to tie all his story arc's to Transformers pre history.....so in-effect he's telling two stories at the same time and while telling the past portion of the story he's re-writting history.
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Postby Damolisher » Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:49 pm

Yeah, and Furman also tends to ignore anything he didn't do.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:04 pm

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Damolisher wrote:Yeah, and Furman also tends to ignore anything he didn't do.


or didnt like.............didnt we both say this before Damaisher????? :-?
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Postby Damolisher » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:31 am

Heh, it's a circular arugment :P
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:47 am

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Damolisher wrote:Heh, it's a circular arugment :P

Like that endless fighting with you know who :grin:
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Postby Deadpool. » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:50 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Damolisher wrote:Heh, it's a circular arugment :P

Like that endless fighting with you know who :grin:
You mean he-who-shalt-not-be-named?
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Postby Damolisher » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:56 am

Yeah, not Lady, but the hombre with Fleas.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:29 am

Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Damolisher wrote:Heh, it's a circular arugment :P

Like that endless fighting with you know who :grin:
You mean he-who-shalt-not-be-named?


Ssshhhhhhhhh.If you say his name 3 times he returns to bust a cap in your posts. :P
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Postby Deadpool. » Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:30 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Damolisher wrote:Heh, it's a circular arugment :P

Like that endless fighting with you know who :grin:
You mean he-who-shalt-not-be-named?


Ssshhhhhhhhh.If you say his name 3 times he returns to bust a cap in your posts. :P
Let him be.. He ain't returning anymore.

And i'll chop him to bits if he does. :P
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Postby Malicron » Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:37 am

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NOOOOOOOOO!!!

Please, don't even think of that hideous excuse for a Human being!
The mear thought of him returning is making me feel ill. :SICK:
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Postby Ramrider » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:25 am

Like Deadpool said, drop it.
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