>
shop.seibertron.com amazon.seibertron.com Facebook Twitter X YouTube Pinterest Instagram Myspace LinkedIn Patreon Podcast RSS
This page runs on affiliate links — your clicks may earn us a few Shanix. Want the full transmission? Roll out to our Affiliate Disclosure.

Can G1 Comic PM Prime be considered a clone?

Discuss anything about the Transformers cartoons and comics! You can discuss anything from G1 to Cybertron as well as the comics from Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW and more!

Can G1 Comic PM Prime be considered a clone?

Postby Deadpool. » Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:02 am

From what I gather, in the G1 comics, Powermaster Prime was just a duplicate of Optimus' personality downloaded into a new body, whereas the original body was sent to space.

So does that make PM Prime a clone?

If the original body was dead, that means that Optimus' spark was already in the Matrix. Which means that PM Prime is merely just a physical copy which thinks that he's the original one. (Sort of like how Ben Reily and Peter Parker both thought that they were the original ones).

Thoughts?
User avatar
Deadpool.
Guardian Of Seibertron
Posts: 5939
Joined: Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:49 pm

Postby Burn » Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:27 am

Motto: "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings to randomly click things in the Admin Panel to see what it breaks."
G1 comic didn't have sparks.

Beast Wars may have stated that G1 bots did have sparks, however that didn't apply when the comic was written.

You can't apply modern day mythology to the past like that.
Burn
Forum Admin
Posts: 28725
News Credits: 226
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2003 3:37 am

Postby Justicity » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:22 am

Burn wrote:G1 comic didn't have sparks.

Beast Wars may have stated that G1 bots did have sparks, however that didn't apply when the comic was written.

You can't apply modern day mythology to the past like that.

Seconded. Beast Wars invented Sparks, it was a retcon (is that the correct term?). While in Beast Wars you can say their ansestors (the G1 bots) had sparks, in G1 you can't say they had sparks.
Image
User avatar
Justicity
Godmaster
Posts: 1679
News Credits: 2
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:45 pm

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:06 am

Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
I dont think that the word "Clone" can aply to this situation.

First his body can not be concidered a clone....the new body for Prime was of a different design the his original body.It had the added feature of his Robot form [witch was designed different] being able to combine with his trailer to form a larger body.

No as for his mind,personality or spark [what ever you want to call it] I'm not really sure what you can call the prosses.What that kid did has always left me with a few questions.
Did he download Primes personality into the disk???Because then its not a clone or a copy.
Did he move move the file's or transfer them???? Because again then its not a clone.
Did he copy all the files and then plased them on the disk???Because then it might be considered a clone.
But again it might not from what I remember of my science class a duplicate of a raido or electric signal is exactly the same as the original.....and a clone...even those in comics [since you used Ben Reily and Peter Parker as an exsample] arent exactly the same as the original DNA doner.There is always the matter of a genetic drift with clones.
I dont think that there is a electric signal with copyed files from a computer.But I'm no expert on computers
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds

T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach

Image
sto_vo_kor_2000
Guardian Of Seibertron
Posts: 6888
News Credits: 1
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:01 am


Return to Transformers Cartoons and Comics Forum


[ Incoming message. Source unknown. ] No Signal - Please Stand By [ Click to attempt signal recovery... ]


Transformers and More @ The Seibertron Store

Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "Transformers Studio Series 86-29 Bumblebee Animated Movie Deluxe Hasbro 2024 New"
NEW!
Transformers Studi ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "Transformers The Last Knight Optimus Prime Titan Changer 4 Step Hasbro 250203A"
Transformers The L ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "Transformers Buzzworthy Bumblebee Legacy Silverstreak Deluxe Class 2022 New"
Transformers Buzzw ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "RAVAGE Transformers Studio Series Core Class Bumblebee Hasbro 2022 New"
NEW!
RAVAGE Transformer ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "World's Smallest Transformers BUMBLEBEE 1.25" Micro Action Figure Authentic New"
World's Smallest T ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "OPTIMUS PRIME Transformers Studio Series 112 Deluxe Transformers One Hasbro New"
OPTIMUS PRIME Tran ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "B-127 / BUMBLEBEE Transformers Studio Series Deluxe Transformers One Hasbro New"
B-127 / BUMBLEBEE ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "LASERBEAK Transformers Studio Series Core Class Pink Bumblebee Hasbro 2022 New"
LASERBEAK Transfor ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "Transformers Metal Earth Last Knight OPTIMUS PRIME Color Steel Model Kit New"
Transformers Metal ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "Rescan OPTIMUS PRIME Transformers Rescue Bots Academy Playskool Racing Truck New"
Rescan OPTIMUS PRI ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "SHOCKWAVE Transformers Studio Series Core Class Bumblebee Hasbro 2022 New"
SHOCKWAVE Transfor ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "Transformers Legacy United Optimus Prime Deluxe Class G1 Hasbro 2024 New"
Transformers Legac ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "LASER OPTIMUS PRIME Transformers Legacy United Leader G2 Universe 2024 New"
LASER OPTIMUS PRIM ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "BUMBLEBEE Transformers Studio Series 116 Deluxe One VW Beetle Hasbro 2025 New"
BUMBLEBEE Transfor ...
These are affiliate links. We may earn a commission.
Details subject to change. See listing for latest price and availability.

Featured Products on Amazon.com

Buy "Transformers Attacker 15 Bania Action Figure" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Authentics Megatron" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: Generations Power of The Primes Leader Evolution Rodimus Prime" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: Generations Power of The Primes Quintus Prime Prime Master" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: Generations Power of The Primes Deluxe Class Dinobot Swoop" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Power of The Primes Deluxe Terrorcon Rippersnapper" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Titans Return Titan Class Trypticon" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: Generations Power of The Primes Deluxe Class Dinobot Slug" on AMAZON
Buy "Hasbro Transformers Generations Titans Return Soundwave and Soundblaster" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: Bumblebee -- Energon Igniters Power Series Megatron" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Studio Series 05 Voyager Class Movie 2 Optimus Prime" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Masterpiece MP-21 Bumble Figure" on AMAZON
These are affiliate links. We may earn a commission.
Details subject to change. See listing for latest price and availability.