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I honestly would rather not have any Transformers comics than watch IDW move their bowels over G1 on a monthly basis. Hasbro is a desperate whore that will accompany any trick willing to put miserable creations like Alpha Bravo and Windblade into their books. IDW does a mere fraction in sales of what Dreamwave did. Failure is nothing to celebrate!

1984forever wrote:I honestly would rather not have any Transformers comics than watch IDW move their bowels over G1 on a monthly basis. Hasbro is a desperate whore that will accompany any trick willing to put miserable creations like Alpha Bravo and Windblade into their books. IDW does a mere fraction in sales of what Dreamwave did. Failure is nothing to celebrate!

Except that's not true and your just being sour over nothing.




And who the hell cares what Dreamwave does plus piracy is very common.


IDW at least did not go bankrupt.

1984forever wrote:IDW does a mere fraction in sales of what Dreamwave did. Failure is nothing to celebrate!

Can you back that up with facts? Because I'd really like you to back that up with facts.

Otherwise you just come off sounding like a whiney little child. You don't want to come off sounding like a whiney little child do you?

Burn wrote:

1984forever wrote:IDW does a mere fraction in sales of what Dreamwave did. Failure is nothing to celebrate!

Can you back that up with facts? Because I'd really like you to back that up with facts.

Otherwise you just come off sounding like a whiney little child. You don't want to come off sounding like a whiney little child do you?

His name Burn




LOOK AT HIS NAME!!!



it explains everything http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ruined_FOREVER

1984forever wrote:Failure is nothing to celebrate!

So.. Long Live Dreamwave!

Burn wrote:

1984forever wrote:IDW does a mere fraction in sales of what Dreamwave did. Failure is nothing to celebrate!

Can you back that up with facts? Because I'd really like you to back that up with facts.

Otherwise you just come off sounding like a whiney little child. You don't want to come off sounding like a whiney little child do you?

Well, here's a fact... real fans remember Dreamwave Transformers as being a #1 best seller right up there with Batman and all the excitement surrounding it. This is not ancient history, Burn.

IDW can never be what Dreamwave was because they do not respect the source material!

1984forever wrote:IDW can never be what Dreamwave was because they do not respect the source material!

Yeah. And they pay their creators. Shame on them.

1984forever wrote:

Burn wrote:

1984forever wrote:IDW does a mere fraction in sales of what Dreamwave did. Failure is nothing to celebrate!

Can you back that up with facts? Because I'd really like you to back that up with facts.

Otherwise you just come off sounding like a whiney little child. You don't want to come off sounding like a whiney little child do you?

Well, here's a fact... real fans remember Dreamwave Transformers as being a #1 best seller right up there with Batman and all the excitement surrounding it. This is not ancient history, Burn.

IDW can never be what Dreamwave was because they do not respect the source material!

Sorry, I asked for facts. You provided opinions. Go sit in the naughty corner.

Burn wrote:

1984forever wrote:

Burn wrote:

1984forever wrote:IDW does a mere fraction in sales of what Dreamwave did. Failure is nothing to celebrate!

Can you back that up with facts? Because I'd really like you to back that up with facts.

Otherwise you just come off sounding like a whiney little child. You don't want to come off sounding like a whiney little child do you?

Well, here's a fact... real fans remember Dreamwave Transformers as being a #1 best seller right up there with Batman and all the excitement surrounding it. This is not ancient history, Burn.

IDW can never be what Dreamwave was because they do not respect the source material!

Sorry, I asked for facts. You provided opinions. Go sit in the naughty corner.

Also: Never mind being one - Alpha Bravo has a real fan. In his tail.

1984, what about the new fans who find what IDW have done is the best G1, especially when they look back and see that the old g1 was just the bones of the franchise that needed improving and building on (especially for a toy line that needs to survive). I swear your version of G1 would of died within two-three years.

Can't you just be happy knowing that you can watch the G1 toon, read the marvel comics and your precious dreamwave comics over and over again while everyone else gets to enjoy all the fantastic and brilliant toys and comics

ZeroWolf wrote:1984, what about the new fans who find what IDW have done is the best G1, especially when they look back and see that the old g1 was just the bones of the franchise that needed improving and building on (especially for a toy line that needs to survive). I swear your version of G1 would of died within two-three years.

Can't you just be happy knowing that you can watch the G1 toon, read the marvel comics and your precious dreamwave comics over and over again while everyone else gets to enjoy all the fantastic and brilliant toys and comics

What IDW is doing is not an improvement. It is only liked because it is new material. Sort of how like kids today think that current music is the best ever, but the songs that came before are actually 10x better. Transformers has been ruined since 1985. That's not my opinion, that's an actual fact. You people can choose to be like Va'al and call propellers real fans, or like Burn and argue that IDW outsold Dreamwave but you can't change history.

1984forever wrote:but you can't change history.

Alpha Bravo can. He's that good.

I think we need alpha Bravo to get voted in the transformers hall of fame.

1984 why can't you understand opinion or is it just that you want to be a hipster. I mean you can't change my opinion. Plus Alpha Bravo is better than anything that the toy line put out in 84

ZeroWolf wrote:Plus Alpha Bravo is better than anything

Word.

ZeroWolf wrote:I think we need alpha Bravo to get voted in the transformers hall of fame.

1984 why can't you understand opinion or is it just that you want to be a hipster. I mean you can't change my opinion. Plus Alpha Bravo is better than anything that the toy line put out in 84

No sir, I am a true Brooklynite. I am not some hipster talking where the last word of every sentence is drawn out and it always sounds like they are asking a question instead of a statement.

Alpha Bravo isn't better than any 1984 release. No one is getting punched in the face or trampled on trying to acquire Aplha freakin' Bravo! I hope that bootleg Aerialbot turns out to be Vortex in disguise. The purple Air Warriors have more personality than that guy!

1984forever wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I think we need alpha Bravo to get voted in the transformers hall of fame.

1984 why can't you understand opinion or is it just that you want to be a hipster. I mean you can't change my opinion. Plus Alpha Bravo is better than anything that the toy line put out in 84

No sir, I am a true Brooklynite. I am not some hipster talking where the last word of every sentence is drawn out and it always sounds like they are asking a question instead of a statement.

Alpha Bravo isn't better than any 1984 release. No one is getting punched in the face or trampled on trying to acquire Aplha freakin' Bravo! I hope that bootleg Aerialbot turns out to be Vortex in disguise. The purple Air Warriors have more personality than that guy!

FACT: Alpha Bravo is better.

1984forever wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I think we need alpha Bravo to get voted in the transformers hall of fame.

1984 why can't you understand opinion or is it just that you want to be a hipster. I mean you can't change my opinion. Plus Alpha Bravo is better than anything that the toy line put out in 84

No sir, I am a true Brooklynite. I am not some hipster talking where the last word of every sentence is drawn out and it always sounds like they are asking a question instead of a statement.

Alpha Bravo isn't better than any 1984 release. No one is getting punched in the face or trampled on trying to acquire Aplha freakin' Bravo! I hope that bootleg Aerialbot turns out to be Vortex in disguise. The purple Air Warriors have more personality than that guy!

That's a good example of an opinion but I wish you would stop pushing it as fact...Unless you can read the mind of everyone who likes transformers (adult and child) and can prove your opinion. Which incidently you can't as I think the early years of the franchise need to be left in the history books.

The bottom line is many of you clicked on this story hoping to read comments about fans kissing the shoes and butts of Hasbro and IDW execs. But instead you got honest criticism from real true fans. True fans came for crappy characters like Alpha Bravo, Windblade and Bumble Prime!

Alpha Bravo is an Earth helicopter on Cybertron, but he claims to be a Cybertronian patriot. How stupid is that?

1984forever wrote:True fans came for crappy characters like Alpha Bravo

Does that make me a true fan, if I came here for Alpha Bravo?

1984forever wrote:The bottom line is many of you clicked on this story hoping to read comments about fans kissing the shoes and butts of Hasbro and IDW execs. But instead you got honest criticism from real true fans. True fans came for crappy characters like Alpha Bravo, Windblade and Bumble Prime!

Alpha Bravo is an Earth helicopter on Cybertron, but he claims to be a Cybertronian patriot. How stupid is that?

There is no such thing as a true fan and you can not say otherwise



Nothing has failed you think it needs things to be exactly like 1984 except it's 2015.

1984forever wrote:The bottom line is many of you clicked on this story hoping to read comments about fans kissing the shoes and butts of Hasbro and IDW execs. But instead you got honest criticism from real true fans. True fans came for crappy characters like Alpha Bravo, Windblade and Bumble Prime!

Alpha Bravo is an Earth helicopter on Cybertron, but he claims to be a Cybertronian patriot. How stupid is that?

1985 was a superior year anyways.

1984forever wrote:You people can choose to be like Va'al and call propellers real fans, or like Burn and argue that IDW outsold Dreamwave

Hey, child! Get back in the corner and come back out when you can produce facts.

Stop being immature, at no point have I said "IDW outsold Dreamwave". I asked YOU to provide evidence.

You're the one hiding behind his little computer sprouting off garbage like it's fact. So prove those facts or shut up. It's that simple.

I'm not arguing, I'm asking for evidence. Can you provide it? You've had plenty of opportunity to do so. I can therefore only assume you can't so your facts don't back up your juvenile little mouth.

Back to the naughty corner with you kiddo!

I rather know where he's getting his facts from as they are letting him down massively

Bumble Prime...How can he ne a prime if that rank doesn't exist anymore?

Also if A.B is a true fan, does that mean that all helicopter tfs are or just those that use fans like Windblade?

1984forever wrote:You people can choose to be like Va'al and call propellers real fans

I'm European.

Va'al wrote:
Also: Never mind being one - Alpha Bravo has a real fan. In his tail.

That's just molded detail. Windblade has two and they actually spin.