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Optimus Prime returns?

Postby respawnhero » Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:19 pm

I know that Optimus Prime died in the movie but didn't they bring him back to life? I can't really remember because I was so young and have forgotten but now with a new found interest in Transformers. I don't know if it was during Generation 2 when they brought him back but I would really like to know. Thank You all. :???: :-?
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Postby Scatterlung » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:00 pm

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towards the end of G1, aired a two part episode called 'The Return Of Optimus Prime'. I'm sure Wikipedia will have more info, i'm too tired, sorry XD
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Postby respawnhero » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:31 pm

thanks for responding, i'm gonna go check this out on wikipedia.
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Postby Me_Grimlock_King » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:40 am

Before "Return of Optimus Prime", there was also "Dark Awakening"...which was just the meanest thing to do to us kids who had just seen Optimus die. They pretty much brought Prime back as an evil zombie to destroy the Autobots.
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Re: Optimus Prime returns?

Postby Repugnus » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:08 pm

respawnhero wrote:I know that Optimus Prime died in the movie but didn't they bring him back to life? I can't really remember because I was so young and have forgotten but now with a new found interest in Transformers. I don't know if it was during Generation 2 when they brought him back but I would really like to know. Thank You all. :???: :-?


As has already been mentioned, yes, Optimus Prime did indeed come back to life in the old G1 cartoon. First he appeared briefly as what was essentially a zombie in "Dark Awakening," but at the conclusion of the episode, it looked like that the spaceship he was on crashed into a star (or possibly some sort of planet as the animation was kind of inconsistent when they later referenced the episode, so it's hard to say for certain what it was). Then later, in the two part episode, "The Return of Optimus Prime," it was revealed that the human, Marissa Fairborne, rescued Prime's body from the ship before it crashed, and then Sky Linx convinced the Quintessons to restore Prime to life.

After that, the G1 cartoon didn't last long. It had a multi-part episode called "The Rebirth," which introduced the Headmasters, and which was intended to begin a fourth season, but the show was canceled at that point.

The Japanese continued the series (omitting Rebirth from the continuity), but one of the first things they did was kill Optimus Prime off again. After the Japanese series ran another three seasons (Headmasters, Masterforce, and Victory) and a special (Zone), it was canceled, with Prime still dead. But then in an official print story called Battlestars, which was set in the animated continuity, Prime came back to life again as Star Convoy ("Convoy" being the Japanese version of his name).

You also asked if Prime was brought back to life in G2, but as far as the cartoon was concerned, G2 was nothing more than reruns of the old G1 series with new, CGI bumps between some of the scenes. In the comics, however, G2 was a new continuation of the G1 comic series, but then again, the comics are a completely separate continuity from the cartoon, and in the comics, Prime died and was brought back to life multiple times.

So there's some more details on what had already been posted. I hope some of it helped.
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Re: Optimus Prime returns?

Postby Predaprince » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:23 pm

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Repugnus wrote:
respawnhero wrote:I know that Optimus Prime died in the movie but didn't they bring him back to life? I can't really remember because I was so young and have forgotten but now with a new found interest in Transformers. I don't know if it was during Generation 2 when they brought him back but I would really like to know. Thank You all. :???: :-?


As has already been mentioned, yes, Optimus Prime did indeed come back to life in the old G1 cartoon. First he appeared briefly as what was essentially a zombie in "Dark Awakening," but at the conclusion of the episode, it looked like that the spaceship he was on crashed into a star (or possibly some sort of planet as the animation was kind of inconsistent when they later referenced the episode, so it's hard to say for certain what it was). Then later, in the two part episode, "The Return of Optimus Prime," it was revealed that the human, Marissa Fairborne, rescued Prime's body from the ship before it crashed, and then Sky Linx convinced the Quintessons to restore Prime to life.

After that, the G1 cartoon didn't last long. It had a multi-part episode called "The Rebirth," which introduced the Headmasters, and which was intended to begin a fourth season, but the show was canceled at that point.

The Japanese continued the series (omitting Rebirth from the continuity), but one of the first things they did was kill Optimus Prime off again. After the Japanese series ran another three seasons (Headmasters, Masterforce, and Victory) and a special (Zone), it was canceled, with Prime still dead. But then in an official print story called Battlestars, which was set in the animated continuity, Prime came back to life again as Star Convoy ("Convoy" being the Japanese version of his name).

You also asked if Prime was brought back to life in G2, but as far as the cartoon was concerned, G2 was nothing more than reruns of the old G1 series with new, CGI bumps between some of the scenes. In the comics, however, G2 was a new continuation of the G1 comic series, but then again, the comics are a completely separate continuity from the cartoon, and in the comics, Prime died and was brought back to life multiple times.

So there's some more details on what had already been posted. I hope some of it helped.
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That is all correct except that it wasn't Marissa Fairborne who saved Optimus in "The Return of Optimus Prime". It was two scientists; one of which actually hates all TFs because we see a flashback where Optimus and Megs are fighting (pre-movie) and an explosion causes the man to become scarred and lose limbs.
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Postby MYoung23 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:00 pm

Little factoid.

Marissa Faireborn is the heavily implied daughter of Dashiell R. Faireborn AKA Flint from GI Joe.

In "Only Human" of Season 3 had Cobra Commander in it cementing that Transformers G-1 and GI Joe were in the same universe.
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Re: Optimus Prime returns?

Postby Repugnus » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:39 pm

Predaprince wrote:That is all correct except that it wasn't Marissa Fairborne who saved Optimus in "The Return of Optimus Prime". It was two scientists; one of which actually hates all TFs because we see a flashback where Optimus and Megs are fighting (pre-movie) and an explosion causes the man to become scarred and lose limbs.


Thanks for pointing that out. It's been a while since I've watched RoOP.
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Re: Optimus Prime returns?

Postby Loki120 » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:02 am

Repugnus wrote:
Predaprince wrote:That is all correct except that it wasn't Marissa Fairborne who saved Optimus in "The Return of Optimus Prime". It was two scientists; one of which actually hates all TFs because we see a flashback where Optimus and Megs are fighting (pre-movie) and an explosion causes the man to become scarred and lose limbs.


Thanks for pointing that out. It's been a while since I've watched RoOP.


Well, he didn't lose limbs. He was just scarred. And ala Victor Von Doom, had a mad on for TFs ever since.

Later, the girl was injured during a fight between the Technobots and Terrorcons, causing her father to hate TFs and thus, both of them unleashing the hate plague which had been found in space while retrieving Optimus' body. In the end, they both saw the light and apologized for nearly destroying the universe with the hate plague.
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Re: Optimus Prime returns?

Postby Raymond T. » Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:59 pm

Predaprince wrote:That is all correct except that it wasn't Marissa Fairborne who saved Optimus in "The Return of Optimus Prime". It was two scientists; one of which actually hates all TFs because we see a flashback where Optimus and Megs are fighting (pre-movie) and an explosion causes the man to become scarred and lose limbs.
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Postby Roddy P » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:35 pm

Me_Grimlock_King wrote:Before "Return of Optimus Prime", there was also "Dark Awakening"...which was just the meanest thing to do to us kids who had just seen Optimus die. They pretty much brought Prime back as an evil zombie to destroy the Autobots.


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