The Energon Pub

by **Jackpot_0881** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:47 am

Guys, I know you're very excited about the TF the movie toys from the delux to voyager and up to the mastergrade. But we all know that HASBRO should make more voyager editions of the TF toys i.e. Bonecrusher right. Good thing they made a Leaderclass of Brawl, and toylines looks like that thier onto a scale-type basis.

by **CloudBreaker22** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:23 am

your not alone, we all want a voyager Bonecrusher (some want a leader :shock:

) a leader class Screamer with hands, and a supreme class Blackout. I do think though that they should make a voyager class 08 Bumblebee and Barricade.

by **Jackpot_0881** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:45 am

CloudBreaker22 wrote:your not alone, we all want a voyager Bonecrusher (some want a leader ) a leader class Screamer with hands, and a supreme class Blackout. I do think though that they should make a voyager class 08 Bumblebee and Barricade.

Its almost to say that those toys are made according to scale and it looks good actually. The Autobots toys are cool but the Decepticons was a mistake. a voyager camaro concept and the saleem is a great one yeah you're right... and bonecrusher looks nasty when he's big :-P

by **ironhide001** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:12 am

Outside US, the price of a voyager is the price of a leader.
I am not even impressed with the voyager class toys personally. Mainly the difference between the voyager and a the deluxe is only size. I am paying more money for more chunks of plastic only?? Doesn't make sense to me.

by **CloudBreaker22** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:20 am

The voyagers also tend to have a couple more gimmicks, and a more complex transformation, seriously the frustration to transform Ironhide got very close to ALT/Binaltech level of frustration the first time I tried transforming him.

by **ironhide001** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:29 am

Cloudbreaker, I noticed that you are always after me!

Anyway, I am speaking from the point of view of a regular guy who just get started into collecting Transformers because of the movie. A hardcore completist Transformers collector may think of displaying sizes as 1st priority, this I can understand.
I got a bit jaded after the movie. Maybe my expectation became too high after I began to compare Deluxe 08BB with Voyager Starscream and Ratchet!
I mean they have put so much stuff into 08BB.

by **Raymond101** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:41 am

I would KILL for a Supreme Class Blackout. That and a PROPER Megatron figure.

If there was a decent Megs figure with a proper fusion cannon, and a Supreme Class Blackout, I would get them without a moment's hesitation. They would be on my Decepticon wishlist along with Leader Brawl (I hope he arrives soon!)

by **CloudBreaker22** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:44 am

Comparing any Transformer to 08 Bumblebee is just unfair Ironhide00, though you should really considering picking up your name sake it's an awesome toy, and for the recored I am not a hardcore completist, that just too expensive. I just want a bigger Bonecrusher and a Starscream that got hands

by **ironhide001** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:54 am

Yes, maybe it is unfair. But it also shows how much Hasbro can do to a toy like 08 BB under strict cost rule. ($9.99!)

I would also like to have a Leader Class Starscream. I like his design, but I think the designers can do more. Suggestions: Put Thrusters on his back, Let him have hands but maybe also hands which can turn into arm cannons by automorph. Also let his wings on the back able to MOVE like wings on a bird as I found that Voyager Starscream has stiff wings which does not do justice to his movie counterpart.

by **CloudBreaker22** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:11 am

Yes a Leader Starscream, that would be absolutely incredible.

News Credits: 4 · by **Briggs** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:19 am

Most parents wouldnt buy their kids these large toys.

by **Bigdaddymcqueen** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:00 am

but i think they'd sell none the less!!! i'd love more voyager class figures!! bumblebee, jazz and barricade off the top of my head would rock!! and i'm signed for a leader class starscream too!!!!

News Credits: 1 · by **Pontimax 01** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:29 am

I think all the sportscar bots should stay as Deluxes, but Bonecrusher and Brawl should have been Voyagers from the beginning. I have Bonecrusher sitting beside my 08 BB, and he's just patheticly small. Feel like flicking him with my finger like Megs did that human.

News Credits: 1 · by **softimus_prime** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:35 am

i saw a fast action battler brawl and it's taller and better than the deluxe type...

by **Spark Light** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:45 am

The size choices are the stupidest thing about the toyline. Bonecrusher and Brawl aren't in scale with anything, Blackout is at least kind of inscale with some of the LOCs.

Brawl should never have been a deluxe. He aleady has an FAB that's better. It's a waste. He should have been a Voyager. Nobody will buy the Leader over here except for Hardcore fans and the repaint is bound to shelf warm.

I initially thought Starscream should have been Leader Class until I saw the movie and realised much like the other decepticons, he wasn't a character or even a plot point.

Blackout really should have been Leader sized instead of Brawl. The scene in the trailer gives him a kind of iconic status.

This was a bad time to ditch the Ultra scaling. It would have been perfect for a lot of TFs that didn't have a big part in the movie but still need a big toy.