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by **MINDVVIPE** » Wed May 23, 2012 9:08 am

Naaailed it. Damn is that old mp Prime huge compared to the newer.

News Credits: 1 · by **AutobotMR2** » Wed May 23, 2012 9:16 am

I am praying to EVERY diety that exists that this get a domestic release. Please for the love of all that is holy!

News Credits: 1 · by **Lord Onixprime** » Wed May 23, 2012 9:23 am

MINDVVIPE wrote:I'd say alternator is about right, if not a little bit bigger even. Although the pic below might be of the older MP optimus that was slightly larger

That's definitely MP-10. Using Grimlock as a reference, yeah, so not Alternity sized, but kind of a short Alternator. Definitely not taller than an Alt though.

News Credits: 2 · by **Banjo-Tron** » Wed May 23, 2012 9:25 am

Damn it, too big for inclusion as a 'classics' figure, I was hoping for smaller.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed May 23, 2012 9:27 am

The image I posted IS of MP-10.

by **MINDVVIPE** » Wed May 23, 2012 9:27 am

But if you look at Sabrblades post, it shows the shorter mp prime with an alternator, and that matches up pretty much the exact same as the picture of Sideswipe, and what looks to be the same mp prime.

News Credits: 2 · by **Banjo-Tron** » Wed May 23, 2012 9:31 am

Sabrblade wrote:The image I posted IS of MP-10.

yeah sorry, my bad. I have amended my post. No hope for 'classicsverse' inclusion then. :-(

News Credits: 1 · by **Lord Onixprime** » Wed May 23, 2012 9:33 am

Sabrblade wrote:The image I posted IS of MP-10.

Was working on my post before you posted

Yeah, I came to the same conclusion that he is about Alternator Smokescreen size, if ever so slightly shorter, and less girth.

News Credits: 10 · by **Trikeboy** » Wed May 23, 2012 9:36 am

Sideswipe is looking better and better but I'm gonna wait for an official pricing before jumping on him. If it comes in under $80 I'll buy it, if not, I'll wait for a Hasbro release.

As for the silhouette, if it is Soundwave, they really should show it and put an end to the third party toy.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed May 23, 2012 9:44 am

Though, a downside to him being Voyager sized means that he cannot fit into MP-10's trailer.

Hm, oh well.

News Credits: 2 · by **Banjo-Tron** » Wed May 23, 2012 9:50 am

Sabrblade wrote:Though, a downside to him being Voyager sized means that he cannot fit into MP-10's trailer.

Hm, oh well.

True. It seems that the scale will be pretty arbitrary then. Does Rodimus look too big compared to MP-10 in vehicle mode?

I concur that MP-13 is probably Soundwave, if you look above the right shoulder of the silhouette you can see what looks like his launcher thingy. That would be awesome.

News Credits: 2 · by **Convotron** » Wed May 23, 2012 9:50 am

My gut reaction to the prototype images of MP-12 is that "It's awfully blocky.". I know that is accurate to the design but seeing as MP-10 was moving towards a more dynamic bot mode for an animated stylized look, MP-12 seems to be going back a step towards MP-01's blocky goodness.

I like MP-12 as it looks in the photos. I'm just wondering how its aesthetics would match up with MP-10's in bot mode.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed May 23, 2012 9:57 am

Looking at this MP-12 design, it seems to be a sort of halfway compromise between the character models of both Sideswipe and Red Alert, so as to make it work for both. It's a little more boxy than Sideswipe, while also not quite as boxy as Red Alert.

by **SJ21** » Wed May 23, 2012 10:27 am

I guess I am done buying MP's now. The figure looks great. But, I am not going to spend $160 on a figure that is (at best) the same size as an Alternator. If they decide to do a domestic release of it I will think about it. Otherwise I just can't justify that price.

by **Xephon0930** » Wed May 23, 2012 10:30 am

Although it is nice to have a Side Swipe type of Transformer for an MP slot,I would much rather have gone Ironhide,Ratchet,Prowl,Cliffjumper and maybe Hound before this "Lambor". That is in terms of average ranking Transformers. In terms of huge leaders/first lieutenants like Soundwave,Ultra Magnus(Not ANOTHER freaking repaint!!!!)and Galvatron,the sizable MP-10 scale works for that figure. Now after this Transformer for the MP line is done,I want Takara and Hasbro to finally get around to doing the more requested Transformers and maybe the first MP Citybot.

Website · by **DMSL** » Wed May 23, 2012 10:52 am

If it's alternator sized and not too expensive i might get it.

by **NamelessOne** » Wed May 23, 2012 11:35 am

All I can say is... GIMMEE!!!!

by **Hypershock** » Wed May 23, 2012 11:49 am

Can i ask why people are expressing doubt over Breakdown being released in the US?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed May 23, 2012 12:02 pm

Hypershock wrote:Can i ask why people are expressing doubt over Breakdown being released in the US?

He hasn't been announced for the US yet, or at least his wave number isn't known yet.

by **Hypershock** » Wed May 23, 2012 12:24 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Hypershock wrote:Can i ask why people are expressing doubt over Breakdown being released in the US?

He hasn't been announced for the US yet, or at least his wave number isn't known yet.

True, but at Botcon when they did the Prime reveals, the Voyager wave four had Thundertron and two figures they didnt say yet, i have a sneaking suspicion that one of them is Breakdown

by **Hotrodimust** » Wed May 23, 2012 12:43 pm

El Duque wrote:A better version of the MP-12 Lambor image has surfaced on ACToys! This version is clearer and shows the figure from the back and in vehicle mode. The MP-13 teaser is present as well. Check it out below.

Not for nothing but this is titled as a mp but the transformation looks pretty standard they couldn't make the wheels on the legs fold in some how. It looks like you pull down on the legs and just split them apart then flip the feet out like a standard deluxe figure. I really hope this isn't a glorified classics figure it better have gimmicks out asstronaut if its gonna cost over $50 for a deluxe class figure and that's to much looks like we are gonna be paying for the name and packaging with this mp.

by **Hotrodimust** » Wed May 23, 2012 12:48 pm

So if anyone cares I looked at the pic of mp-12 standing next to mp-10 and he just makes it to the silver stripe on his rib section. So I took a couple of my figures and stood them next to my mp-10 and voyager dotm prime seems to be the exact height of mp-12. At least he's not deluxe but he's a small voyager god older voyager are so much bigger lol

by **Valandar** » Wed May 23, 2012 1:14 pm

Hotrodimust wrote:Not for nothing but this is titled as a mp but the transformation looks pretty standard they couldn't make the wheels on the legs fold in some how. It looks like you pull down on the legs and just split them apart then flip the feet out like a standard deluxe figure. I really hope this isn't a glorified classics figure it better have gimmicks out asstronaut if its gonna cost over $50 for a deluxe class figure and that's to much looks like we are gonna be paying for the name and packaging with this mp.

Take a better look at the back of the calves. That is not just a "'pull down the legs" transform, it's a bit more complex than it looks on the surface.

Remember, Masterpiece Grimlock has BASICALLY the same transform as G1, but it has a good bit more to it as well. Odds are the same is at work here.

by **Hotrodimust** » Wed May 23, 2012 1:29 pm

Valandar wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:Not for nothing but this is titled as a mp but the transformation looks pretty standard they couldn't make the wheels on the legs fold in some how. It looks like you pull down on the legs and just split them apart then flip the feet out like a standard deluxe figure. I really hope this isn't a glorified classics figure it better have gimmicks out asstronaut if its gonna cost over $50 for a deluxe class figure and that's to much looks like we are gonna be paying for the name and packaging with this mp.

Take a better look at the back of the calves. That is not just a "'pull down the legs" transform, it's a bit more complex than it looks on the surface.

Remember, Masterpiece Grimlock has BADSICALLY the same transform as G1, but it has a good bit more to it as well. Odds are the same is at work here.

Ya I seen the caves look like they do a little more but the wheels just sit there. Most newer figures that part swings around so the wheels are facing towards the back at least and looks like a leg in the front not just the bottom of a car. And I still like the figure I'm not saying its bad but the lower legs just look blah. And as for Grimlock ya it's just like g1 but there is nothing wrong with it IMO great detail vibrant colors just the right amout of diecast in the right places that figure is what got me started on MP line