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bad guys get the Matrix of leadership

Postby General Magnus » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:16 am

Assuming that the Matrix makes them good and grants them an upgrade , how would certain bad guys be?

BW Rampage
BM Strike
BM Tankor
BM Obsidan

and others?
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Re: bad guys get the Matrix of leadership

Postby Raymond T. » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:26 am

General Magnus wrote:Assuming that the Matrix makes them good and grants them an upgrade , how would certain bad guys be?

BW Rampage
BM Strike
BM Tankor
BM Obsidan

and others?
The Matrix doesn't "make them good". Examples of that is when Scourge possessed the Matrix in the episode "Burden Hardest To Bear" and Thunderwing possessing the Matrix in Marvel's Matrix Quest saga in the original run of the comics.
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:04 am

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Well in the Marvel comics Thunderwing got the matrix and his evil started to corrupt it.
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Postby High Command » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:14 am

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Starscream on the other hand, got hold of the matrix in the G2 comics and it started to turn him good.
He used the matrix to bond with the Warworld and attack Megatron and Prime who were within it at the time. Unconsiously he helped save them from himself and eventually gave the matix back to Prime because he didn't want to be good...
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Postby Stormwolf » Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:35 am

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Cyber Bishop wrote:Well in the Marvel comics Thunderwing got the matrix and his evil started to corrupt it.


Wrong, the matrix was already corrupted before that point by the alien that was remade into the deathbringer.
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Postby Dr. Caelus » Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:52 am

I think it would actually make BW Rampage good.

I've seen a convincing argument that Rampage's evilness is the product of being severed from the Matrix (i.e. the afterlife) by his immortality. Connecting with the Matrix then might fill a void within him and make him sane/good.
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Postby Insurgent » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:21 pm

Rampage wasn't 'Evil'. He was mentally disturbed, who had a terrible life and was abused for the sole purpose of prooving he was indistructible. He was then forced into service of the Predacons by torture. If he got the Matrix, I reckon it would have balanced his mind and given him peace. No longer would he be a pshycotic. For some reason I think he would be a gifted scientist, on the same level of Rhinox if not for his insanity.

(yes, I'm a big Rampage fan. Troubled souls like that always draw my sympathies.)
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Postby Leonardo » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:23 pm

Insurgent wrote:Rampage wasn't 'Evil'. He was mentally disturbed, who had a terrible life and was abused for the sole purpose of prooving he was indistructible. He was then forced into service of the Predacons by torture. If he got the Matrix, I reckon it would have balanced his mind and given him peace. No longer would he be a pshycotic. For some reason I think he would be a gifted scientist, on the same level of Rhinox if not for his insanity.

(yes, I'm a big Rampage fan. Troubled souls like that always draw my sympathies.)


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