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Cobotron wrote:I'll be curled up in a ball in the corner, in a cold sweat, quietly muttering, "please be real....please be real"


... if anybody is looking for me, that is.

I see you, and I'm with you, and we will have a Megatron party on Skype!!

I like what I'm seeing so far. Show me him next to MP-10 and if the scale is right, I'll have the buyers in to see my spare kidney post haste.

The swappable faces are inclining me to think this might be real.

Oh, great. Customs Wars 2...

Thats a nice looking figure, and I see definaymte imorovement, but. I've seen this movie already.

itscramtastic wrote:then again, I could just keep him in alt-mode!

Yeah that sounds better. Just have the new onf in robot mode and appolyon in alt mode.

Anyone else wondering why it says gun cannot be straight? Was that what they had to compromise to be able to make another one?

Those prototypes look promising, except for the crooked gun barrel part. Definitely hoping this is real though.

Powermaster Swag wrote:Anyone else wondering why it says gun cannot be straight? Was that what they had to compromise to be able to make another one?

These are exchanges within the department. "Gun not being straight" sounds more like a remark to point out a problem that should be fixed before production begins.

itscramtastic wrote:it's like they combined the best of Mightron and Despotron!!

That's what I said Takara needed to do when trying to decide. My Mightron preorder is one official announcement away from being cancelled.

Tyrannacon wrote:Those prototypes look promising, except for the crooked gun barrel part. Definitely hoping this is real though.

Megatron is not happy to see you.

Interesting, be cool to if this pans out. Won't be getting it though, but, nice to know it's there nonetheless

looks good if it were real.. been ogling the 3rd party variants out and between the fact there's too much official product i need to buy still and the fact that it seems that taker come round to releasing the toys I want anyways...

I would like takara to give like a 20 $ off discount to whoever owns the original mp megs due to all its problems.

Looks good but I think Despotron edges ahead. Maybe...

If this is genuine I hope he's the exact same height as MP-10, like, optics to optics. Been waiting for this one.

itscramtastic wrote:JUST when I was about to make a decision on Despotron or Mightron, this is teased. Just like MP Shockwave appeared around the re-release of Quakewave and the appearance of Quakeblast (around this time last year right?).. I'm glad I waited, and I guess I'll be selling off Apollyon. Kibble free legs, multiple faces, compact cannon, it's like they combined the best of Mightron and Despotron!!

I don't understand why the 3P make "MP" of characters that Takara is very likely to make. And somehow all the 3P companies always seem to work on the same characters at the same time. It doesn't bother me I just find it curious. (I'm surprised Takara doesn't do anything about it though. Some of those 3P figures look pretty convincing lately.) And yet none of them attempt to redo Red Alert.

While I understand this is till somewhat speculative; a new MP Megs would be great if redone.
Really hope this happens to balance out my MP shelf.

Cyberpath wrote:I don't understand why the 3P make "MP" of characters that Takara is very likely to make. And somehow all the 3P companies always seem to work on the same characters at the same time. It doesn't bother me I just find it curious.

I once talked about this with a friend of mine who has an interest in 3rd party MPs. From his point of view, the 3rd party MP market is beneficial to MP collectors who want to have as complete a MP collection as possible and as fast as possible. While Takara's official MPs might be superior in the long run, the rate at which Takara releases them is much slower compared to how fast the 3rd parties seem to churn out there's. This gives collectors the opportunity to collect more characters in MP form at a quicker rate, allowing them to complete their MP collections more efficiently. While one could simply be patient and wait for Takara to make their own, the Transformers fandom that grew up on G1 in the 80's is getting older and older as the years go by, and some people want to be able to complete their MP character collection sooner than later because they want to do so while they still have time. Takara's MP line could last forever and ever if it wanted to, but we as mortal human beings have but one life to live, a life that itself has a limit. 3rd parties might not do MPs as good as Takara does, but because they do them faster, they can help collectors get the characters they want sooner within their lifetime. Some fans just don't want to end up with an incomplete MP character roster before their time is up.

william-james88 wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:then again, I could just keep him in alt-mode!

Yeah that sounds better. Just have the new onf in robot mode and appolyon in alt mode.

Totes McGotes!!

zodconvoy wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:it's like they combined the best of Mightron and Despotron!!

That's what I said Takara needed to do when trying to decide. My Mightron preorder is one official announcement away from being cancelled.

I never "said" it, but I sure as heck HOPED it I really don't see Takara messing this one up.

Cyberpath wrote:If this is genuine I hope he's the exact same height as MP-10, like, optics to optics. Been waiting for this one.

itscramtastic wrote:JUST when I was about to make a decision on Despotron or Mightron, this is teased. Just like MP Shockwave appeared around the re-release of Quakewave and the appearance of Quakeblast (around this time last year right?).. I'm glad I waited, and I guess I'll be selling off Apollyon. Kibble free legs, multiple faces, compact cannon, it's like they combined the best of Mightron and Despotron!!

I don't understand why the 3P make "MP" of characters that Takara is very likely to make. And somehow all the 3P companies always seem to work on the same characters at the same time. It doesn't bother me I just find it curious. (I'm surprised Takara doesn't do anything about it though. Some of those 3P figures look pretty convincing lately.) And yet none of them attempt to redo Red Alert.

I hope it is the same proportions as well! It would be awesome. If anyone can do it, Takara can. Probably Also! I know I've had that thought too, especially when multiple 3P companies start making the same figure. So I still think we are waiting for a MP Hound, Sunstreaker, Trailbreaker and Reflector announcement from Takara

Sabrblade wrote:the Transformers fandom that grew up on G1 in the 80's is getting older and older as the years go by, and some people want to be able to complete their MP character collection sooner than later because they want to do so while they still have time.

Still have time?! Early to mid 40s is hardly the end. I hope!
Patience is a virtue. The 3P companies prey on the unvirtuous. ...

Cobs

Sabr, does your friend ever regert it later? Like when Takara came with the ladder/crane black magic?

More options are great for the fans but I was thinking more from the 3P standpoint -- the risk that they take, spending time and money on developing an MP-wannabe only to wake up one morning to see an official announcement from Takara.

Well, maybe they enjoy the process and do it mainly for themselves.


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itscramtastic wrote:Also! I know I've had that thought too, especially when multiple 3P companies start making the same figure. So I still think we are waiting for a MP Hound, Sunstreaker, Trailbreaker and Reflector announcement from Takara

Dude! I need time to truly appreciate all those recent and upcoming figures before Takara unloads a bunch of new ones on us.

Cyberpath wrote:I don't understand why the 3P make "MP" of characters that Takara is very likely to make. And somehow all the 3P companies always seem to work on the same characters at the same time.

It's been speculated that the Takara engineers behind these freelance. Maybe they do dry runs for figures with the 3P companies. Certainly explains how Takara pipped Soundwave. Just after reruns of Quakewave and the like appear, TakaraTomy announces Shockwave. Hellfire and another not-Inferno is shown/released, Inferno and now Grapple are announced. We have two Megatrons coming. Now we might be seeing TTs Megs.

It might be true. It might not. Who knows?!?

Cyberpath wrote:Sabr, does your friend ever regret it later? Like when Takara came with the ladder/crane black magic?

Can't speak for anyone else but personally, I do not regret Hellfire. Not one bit. However, I ain't picked up Wrestle yet and I DO like the look of TTs Grapple so I'll buy him to have one of his mold.

Cyberpath wrote:Sabr, does your friend ever regert it later? Like when Takara came with the ladder/crane black magic?

If he does, he could just sell off the 3rd party version to pay for the less expensive official version.

Cyberpath wrote:More options are great for the fans but I was thinking more from the 3P standpoint -- the risk that they take, spending time and money on developing an MP-wannabe only to wake up one morning to see an official announcement from Takara.

Maybe the 3rd parties feel content about their work even when compared to Takara's work like how Hasbro feels content about their CW Computron even when compared to Takara's UW Computron. And there's also the feeling of "we did it first" that usually feels good in general.

Sabrblade wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Sabr, does your friend ever regert it later? Like when Takara came with the ladder/crane black magic?

If he does, he could just sell off the 3rd party version to pay for the less expensive official version.

Problem is that with the MP scale, the 3ps are around the same price as the officials, give or take. Appolyon was 150. And do secnd hand 3p toys that have other options really sell for a decent amount on the secondary market?

Big Grim wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Sabr, does your friend ever regret it later? Like when Takara came with the ladder/crane black magic?

Can't speak for anyone else but personally, I do not regret Hellfire. Not one bit. However, I ain't picked up Wrestle yet and I DO like the look of TTs Grapple so I'll buy him to have one of his mold.

I kinda regret some 3ps but not in light of the other options. I regret them for the simple fact that some are a pain to transform.

william-james88 wrote:I kinda regret some 3ps but not in light of the other options. I regret them for the simple fact that some are a pain to transform.

Only 3Ps I regret are the iGear Coneheads. Not great quality but they'll do. I kinda regret Badcubes Wardog (Warpath) as while it's a feat of engineering and a great Warpath, it is needlessly complex and when his shoulder connector broke, it took me damn near a year to get a replacement from them. Not touched Badcube since. Even though I wanted their Sunstreaker.

The FanToys Dinobots (all 4 thus far released) and Perceptor are sublime. The Maketoys Protectobots and Inferno are great! The more G1 Hexatron (I forget the Company behind him) is a great figure.

I really hope that this ends up being legit and official and real, because I love it when the "That will/can never, ever happen!!!" crowd is confronted by another example of their being wrong about some Transformer thing that can or will never be able to happen.

Dagon wrote:I really hope that this ends up being legit and official and real, because I love it when the "That will/can never, ever happen!!!" crowd is confronted by another example of their being wrong about some Transformer thing that can or will never be able to happen.

When did anyone say this would never happen? I thought it was just that Hasbro wouldnt release a realistic gun megatron in the US. That will never ever happen.