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This vinyl looks great; another one to add to the collection.

I was sort of thinking of getting this just to stick it in an LP frame, but the price is way higher than I expected. Amazon has it listed for $51.
http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Delu ... rack+vinyl

All you noobz with your vinyl records. WAX CYLINDERS OR BUST!


j/k, I'm fine with the CD I bought (along with the VHS copy of the movie which I still have around here somewhere) in the early to mid 90's (my first online purchase, via Prodigy, pre-internet).

Still cool they're doing this, even if it's not something I'd ever buy. Once I got a cassette playing Walkman, I never looked back to records. Guess I get no "cred", but whatever, if you want to deal with them, great, to me CD is the GOAT.

(I probably sound more negative than I intend, I really do think it's great that people that are into this sort of thing get to have it)

Optimum Supreme wrote:All you noobz with your vinyl records. WAX CYLINDERS OR BUST!


j/k, I'm fine with the CD I bought (along with the VHS copy of the movie which I still have around here somewhere) in the early to mid 90's (my first online purchase, via Prodigy, pre-internet).

Still cool they're doing this, even if it's not something I'd ever buy. Once I got a cassette playing Walkman, I never looked back to records. Guess I get no "cred", but whatever, if you want to deal with them, great, to me CD is the GOAT.

(I probably sound more negative than I intend, I really do think it's great that people that are into this sort of thing get to have it)

I keep my VCR hooked up just so I can watch My VHS of TF.
No retro cool, just to lazy to find it on DVD.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Will there some day be a retro rebirth of VHS?

Cobotron wrote:Will there some day be a retro rebirth of VHS?

Only in 1984forever's basement ...

Burn wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Will there some day be a retro rebirth of VHS?

Only in 1984forever's basement ...

Vinyl records sound SO much better than CDs or cassettes IMO. The sound quality is a lot deeper and almost larger than life when cranking some top notch produced albums.

I have a huge collection of 80's vinyl but never got into getting newer albums on vinyl but this is a must have!

Bumblevivisector wrote:Ah, but seriously, the vintage vinyl TF:TM soundtrack has been a holy grail of many a fan for many a decade,

really?

I had this thing on vinyl, twice over the years.
got rid of them both because of damage

xRotorstormx wrote:Vinyl records sound SO much better than CDs or cassettes IMO. The sound quality is a lot deeper and almost larger than life when cranking some top notch produced albums.

I have a huge collection of 80's vinyl but never got into getting newer albums on vinyl but this is a must have!

I need you to recommend me a record player. Got rid of my DJ turntables years ago and don't have a way to play vinyl at all since then.

ScottyP wrote:

xRotorstormx wrote:Vinyl records sound SO much better than CDs or cassettes IMO. The sound quality is a lot deeper and almost larger than life when cranking some top notch produced albums.

I have a huge collection of 80's vinyl but never got into getting newer albums on vinyl but this is a must have!

I need you to recommend me a record player. Got rid of my DJ turntables years ago and don't have a way to play vinyl at all since then.

Easiest thing would be a Vestax portable with some generic plug in speakers.
About $100 and you are there.

Recently, we reported on the Transformers The Movie soundtrack being rereleased on vinyl, and now we have an update.

Thanks to Seibertron staffer Rotorstorm finding the sales link over at Amazon, we now have a source from which to buy it. You can see the ordering page by clicking here: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00P8H2FGW/ref ... Iub0B8RJFJ

The price is $47.99 and the release date is December 23rd, so it won't get to you until after the holidays, but what a great way to start the new year!



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For $50 it better be more than just a reissue.

47$ for a single disc record press is absolutely ridiculous. It should be around 30$ max, even with a colored vinyl. A 47$+ asking price is for pressings with at least 2 discs. This is insane.

50 bucks ? What kind of crack are they smoking ? You could probably find the vintage record in a thrift store for a dollar. Or more likely in a vinyl store for under 20 bucks. I used to DJ. Even the rarest records could be bought for under 20 bucks once CD turntables were invented by Numark.

anger... over the price of a collectible... from US? after the money we spend on toys? you people are impossible.

whatever. wont stop me from buying my two copies.

Rated X wrote:50 bucks ? What kind of crack are they smoking ? You could probably find the vintage record in a thrift store for a dollar. Or more likely in a vinyl store for under 20 bucks. I used to DJ. Even the rarest records could be bought for under 20 bucks once CD turntables were invented by Numark.

Vinyl collector they buy it wouldnt think twice for someone like us who buys stuff like this http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK11788&mode=retail same person will say samething 80. For toy to keep in box not to be taken out or display on shelf to collect dust depends on person

shajaki wrote:anger... over the price of a collectible... from US? after the money we spend on toys? you people are impossible.

whatever. wont stop me from buying my two copies.

Based on the Amazon.com order page, there's nothing that justifies this price point. I'm not angry about it, and I'm just not buying it.

Records and toys are different in my mind. I'll happily spend up to $15 on an LP, maybe even $20 depending on what I'm buying and where. $50 doesn't even make sense. I've never seen a price tag that high for something brand new and for something not being sold in secondary markets like eBay.

It Is Him wrote:

shajaki wrote:anger... over the price of a collectible... from US? after the money we spend on toys? you people are impossible.

whatever. wont stop me from buying my two copies.

Based on the Amazon.com order page, there's nothing that justifies this price point. I'm not angry about it, and I'm just not buying it.

Records and toys are different in my mind. I'll happily spend up to $15 on an LP, maybe even $20 depending on what I'm buying and where. $50 doesn't even make sense. I've never seen a price tag that high for something brand new and for something not being sold in secondary markets like eBay.

Granted it's been ages since I've dealt with the music market but back when I was building up my Metallica music library, I wouldn't have (and often didn't) think twice about dropping that kind of change down for vinyl and that was back when most of you 'bots still had training wheels. If it wasn't for the fact that I still have my cassette and original CD of this soundtrack, I'd probably drop the 50 creds for the vinyl now but I just don't feel the need to have a version I can't even listen to.
Y'all should know better by now than to scoff at the prices of various collectibles. Audiophiles are even fussier and hungrier creatures than those folks dependent on their "plastic crack" addictions and the markets operate on two entirely different wavelengths.

Kind of a hefty pricetag. That Deathconsciousness reissue isn't even $30.

dragons wrote:

Rated X wrote:50 bucks ? What kind of crack are they smoking ? You could probably find the vintage record in a thrift store for a dollar. Or more likely in a vinyl store for under 20 bucks. I used to DJ. Even the rarest records could be bought for under 20 bucks once CD turntables were invented by Numark.

Vinyl collector they buy it wouldnt think twice for someone like us who buys stuff like this http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=TAK11788&mode=retail same person will say samething 80. For toy to keep in box not to be taken out or display on shelf to collect dust depends on person

I collect vintage hip hop and old school vinyl from the 70's and 80's. I am well aware of the collector's value of LP's. The price is unacceptable and a total joke. This is not a vintage Elvis or Beatles LP. I would place the value of the original vintage 1986 LP at around $10-15 in any used vinyl shop. Maybe $20-25 would be the retail "gotta have it" price. Theres a few of them on e-bay for over $40. But they are listed "buy it now" so that means nobody agrees with the sellers appraisal.

CrankyOldTruck wrote:

It Is Him wrote:

shajaki wrote:anger... over the price of a collectible... from US? after the money we spend on toys? you people are impossible.

whatever. wont stop me from buying my two copies.

Based on the Amazon.com order page, there's nothing that justifies this price point. I'm not angry about it, and I'm just not buying it.

Records and toys are different in my mind. I'll happily spend up to $15 on an LP, maybe even $20 depending on what I'm buying and where. $50 doesn't even make sense. I've never seen a price tag that high for something brand new and for something not being sold in secondary markets like eBay.

Granted it's been ages since I've dealt with the music market but back when I was building up my Metallica music library, I wouldn't have (and often didn't) think twice about dropping that kind of change down for vinyl and that was back when most of you 'bots still had training wheels. If it wasn't for the fact that I still have my cassette and original CD of this soundtrack, I'd probably drop the 50 creds for the vinyl now but I just don't feel the need to have a version I can't even listen to.
Y'all should know better by now than to scoff at the prices of various collectibles. Audiophiles are even fussier and hungrier creatures than those folks dependent on their "plastic crack" addictions and the markets operate on two entirely different wavelengths.

You missed the point entirely. You're comparing a $50 brand new LP to records found in a secondary market, which is not dictated by input costs or marketing costs.

X-Rated is right that this price point doesn't make sense.

If you go to CCmusic.com it is $32.63 with coupon code Nov1420

Hmm...$50 for an archaic (and in my opinion, extremely obsolete) format, or the price of $5 (or free if you have an Amazon Prime membership, as I do) for MP3.





And the TL,DR part about the whole vinyl thing from my perspective based on my admittedly limited experience with vinyl (I've listened to records plenty of times, even on 'high-end' stereo equipment, but I've never owned my own record player):

That 'warm' sound (a suspiciously frequently used term to describe the sound of vinyl by its proponents) is not worth 10X the price in my opinion. I've heard live bands, even bands recording in studios but and while I have heard some digital representations (CDs, lossless WMAs, MP3s, ATRAC3s etc.) that sounded pretty close to live, never have I heard a record player replicate anything close. It does give it a different quality to the sound, and I'm sure that many enjoy that quality, but in my opinion it's no closer to the real thing than a decent quality digital recording (isn't most music recorded directly to digital these days anyway? Though of course that probably wasn't the case back in the mid-80's when this was recorded). Reel-to-reel is supposed to be the 'real deal' when it comes to audio accuracy anyway, not vinyl. Besides, I think a decent set of speakers and well adjusted equalizer will have a far greater impact on sound quality than the medium used for playback. I mean naturally the bitrate needs to be decent, otherwise it can have that 'tinny' sound to it, but other than that there should be little to no impact unless there's some information I'm unaware of such as some sort of limitation of digital recordings and playback media with regards to the ranges/frequencies/whatever that they're capable of recording/playing back/replicating, but I've never heard of any such limitations; again, especially nowadays since most retail music is recorded digitally in the first place, which would make an analogue conversion a step down, while a high quality (e.g. 'lossless') digital copy would theoretically be flawless/the closest you could possibly get to the source.