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News Credits: 38 · by **Sunstar** » Sun May 20, 2007 7:39 am

*looks happy* I found the thread again!

I was thinking the "information" seemed rather... peculiar to me anyway.

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Sun May 20, 2007 7:46 am

Just a little bit more product placement for you tm theres porsche and vw

But yeah alot of what he has said is stuff we have seen or heard so I'm not taking too much stock in it, but in the end it may all be true.

by **Godzilla** » Sun May 20, 2007 10:24 am

I won't believe it! Jazz will live!

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sun May 20, 2007 10:30 am

ToosaMay wrote:Guys, I worked on a project with the Transformers license. I've seen the movie, and studied all the characters in detail. I can tell you this:

Jazz is a black sterotype, and he does die. He says, "Oh snap" and makes references to his "bangin' sound system" regularly. He is voiced by a black actor who was encouraged to sound "like Martin Lawrence." His feet were originally designed to resemble basketball sneakers, and there is even a portion of the film where he breakdances after a victory.

I spoke with an actor who portrayed Jazz in the production I worked on, not the same man as in the movie. One of his first going-into-battle lines was "Aww yeah, Jibby-Jazz up on the mike, y'all!"

There is no question in my mind that his character is overtly stereotypical, if not racist. I wish I was making this up.

And if anyone was wondering, the leaked script is completely accurate.

Jazz is a Black Stereotype?! I'd've never guessed it!

[/sarcasm]

Jazz has been the Token Black Bot for, oh, 23 years now. (I.e. Since the beginning) Of course, a bunch of Decepticons die first, so the whole "Black Guy Dies First" thing SORT OF isn't happening.

Of course, it makes Megatron look like a badass.

by **Godzilla** » Sun May 20, 2007 10:56 am

But all the characters have personalities so I was just joking about the stereotype. I just hope this is just joke!

by **Sentinel Pax** » Sun May 20, 2007 11:00 am

Central-Blast2 wrote:But all the characters have personalities so I was just joking about the stereotype. I just hope this is just joke!

Oh my GOD! We get that you were joking about the stereotype! I'm pretty sure that this thread has moved past that.

by **Godzilla** » Sun May 20, 2007 11:15 am

Apex Convoy wrote:
Central-Blast2 wrote:But all the characters have personalities so I was just joking about the stereotype. I just hope this is just joke!

Oh my GOD! We get that you were joking about the stereotype! I'm pretty sure that this thread has moved past that.

Oh, Ok then.

How come there are so few Autobots?

by **Sentinel Pax** » Sun May 20, 2007 11:19 am

My guess is they are more concerned with staying hidden, hence they would bring less soldiers. But that's just me.

by **Godzilla** » Sun May 20, 2007 11:21 am

THey should of had Prowl inthe movie!

by **Zinger** » Sun May 20, 2007 11:29 am

There are LOTS of characters that should've been in the movie.

by **primalVICTORY** » Sun May 20, 2007 11:32 am

we'll just have to wait for TF2 to see all the new guys. i wonder what the storyline will be in it though..

News Credits: 1 · by **tech348** » Sun May 20, 2007 4:05 pm

ToosaMay wrote:More stuff:

When Lennox calls AT&T, the operator is a young Indian man who picks his nose.

I had to laugh at this. I'm a serv tech for AT&T and that sounds like the truth.

News Credits: 3 · by **Bartrim** » Sun May 20, 2007 6:46 pm

Central-Blast2 wrote:
Apex Convoy wrote:
Central-Blast2 wrote:But all the characters have personalities so I was just joking about the stereotype. I just hope this is just joke!

Oh my GOD! We get that you were joking about the stereotype! I'm pretty sure that this thread has moved past that.

Oh, Ok then.

How come there are so few Autobots?

I believe the writers put less Autobots in the film to show that teamwork and trust can beat sheer mass and force. Like a whole moral thing.

by **Godzilla** » Sun May 20, 2007 6:59 pm

I thought that was Shockwave coming out of the pool, I didn't know it was Ironhide.

by **lkavadas** » Sun May 20, 2007 7:49 pm

Never mind. Someone beat me to it.

by **Godzilla** » Sun May 20, 2007 7:59 pm

lkavadas wrote:Never mind. Someone beat me to it.

What was it?

News Credits: 1 · by **Leonardo** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:09 am

Bottom Out wrote:is english accent the same as british accent?

Not exactly. An English accent would only come from England. A British accent could come from either England, Scotland or Wales. An English accent is a British accent but a British accent isn't necessarily an English accent.

The only thing from these spoilers that I haven't heard about was the dialogue where the President requests Ding Dongs. So, yes, I'll reserve judgement. Might be true, might not be.

ToosaMay wrote:Sorry.

That's really HOMOSEXUAL.

And this is poor form.

by **primalVICTORY** » Mon May 21, 2007 10:15 am

Central-Blast2 wrote:I thought that was Shockwave coming out of the pool, I didn't know it was Ironhide.

shockwave isnt in this movie. he might be in TF2, and hopefully he is. it is ironhide that comes out of the pool, but hes in his protoform. i wonder how he gets in there..cuz i doubt he lands in there when he comes to earth..

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Mon May 21, 2007 1:33 pm

XxDunexX wrote:
Central-Blast2 wrote:I thought that was Shockwave coming out of the pool, I didn't know it was Ironhide.

shockwave isnt in this movie. he might be in TF2, and hopefully he is. it is ironhide that comes out of the pool, but hes in his protoform. i wonder how he gets in there..cuz i doubt he lands in there when he comes to earth..

Well it must of been a hell of a ride geting to earth. So he that hem, let's take a bath.

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Mon May 21, 2007 1:53 pm

XxDunexX wrote:
Central-Blast2 wrote:I thought that was Shockwave coming out of the pool, I didn't know it was Ironhide.

shockwave isnt in this movie. he might be in TF2, and hopefully he is. it is ironhide that comes out of the pool, but hes in his protoform. i wonder how he gets in there..cuz i doubt he lands in there when he comes to earth..

Actually, yeah, that's exactly where he lands. Dead center of the pool.

Prime lands in a field (he's the protoform you seen opening in the new commercial. It's also part of the scene from the "Hidden" commercial where Prime turns into a truck after a real Freightliner passes by in the foreground.)

Ratchet lands outside of a diner. (One of the trailers or the commercials shows people jumping away from restaurant windows that are catching on fire.)

Jazz lands in the Baseball Field, along with totaling one of the Stadium walls.

by **Jawnee** » Mon May 21, 2007 3:51 pm

Shadowman wrote:Don't be a tool, we discourage that sort of thing.

This coming from the guy that prides himself on being a bit of an ass around here...

by **Optimus Prime 101** » Mon May 21, 2007 4:39 pm

Bottom Out wrote:Spoiler warning

per the leaked script, jazz does infact die.

end spoiler

oyyyyyyyyyyy........whata bout megs?

by **ScorpoMax** » Mon May 21, 2007 9:53 pm

Cyber Bishop wrote:I wonder if there is any possibility of megs returning in the next movie?
Do they detonate the nuke (if so then I guess my above questions answer would be no)..

It would be cool if the closing credits ended with a little teaser showing Megatron's lifeless body at the bottom of the ocean. We see a close up of Megatron's face. Suddenly his eyes light up and he bellows, "I will be....AVENGED!"

Something like that would be classic. I hope I gave Michael Bay one last minute idea if anyone involved in the production is reading this. :lol:

by **YouFearGalvatron** » Mon May 21, 2007 10:50 pm

Bombus distinguendus wrote:it wouldnt be a TF movie is someone didnt die lmao...

Sadly, I agree.

I mean, seriously. Look at the newest trailer, Jazz is trying to stop Megatron in jet mode, and as Megatron transforms, Jazz is thrown off, and his inertia carries further as Megatron uses one of his massive feet to stomp on him and land on the edge of a church. My first thought was like a bird of prey landing with it's prey. A very powerful image in my mind.

Anyway, look at Jazz, look at Megatron's size and mass in comparison.

Is there any doubt that he dies?

I mean I hate it if he dies, Jazz is very cool and has lots of charachter. I like to think of him as the "James Brown" of the TFs, but reality steps in. And if this film will be darker in tone than even the original, some robots must die.

by **YouFearGalvatron** » Mon May 21, 2007 11:13 pm

ToosaMay wrote:Again, that's not it.

You want to know? Alright. It's PRODUCT PLACEMENT.

Transformers is filled with shitloads of ads, and it makes me sick. There's a scene where the Allspark sends out a pulse of energy which transforms various machines in the vicinity. Among them:

An Xbox 360
An Ipod
A Scion car
An HP camera
And the entire contents of a Target (with a nice zoom up on the logo)

Why do you think the Autobots are all GM cars, and the Decepticons are all Ford vehicles (except Megatron)?

Bumblebee cannot speak, so he speaks with radio advetisements. One of the first things he says is a Yahoo ad, complete with the "YahoooOOOOoooo!" Then he does a Verizon Wireless "Can you hear me now?" bit.

On top of it, Sector Seven uses Macintosh computers exclusively.

It's sickening. I'm leaving before I get sued.

I knew this would be a huuuge commercial orgyfest for corporations and their products, but damn. That is overkill.

Anyway, Sector 7 using only Macs?! Ha! I was in the military and worked in a classified AFSC, and let me tell you, we stay far away from Macs. Lack of preformance, programs are harder to code for it, more expensive hardware/software...just a maze of problems. As much as many hate it, even the pentagon runs the Windows OS on PCs. If anything, it laughs at some semblamce of realism for the military/secret organizations.

*ends rant*

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