Low Man's Land (L3 and below)
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*Nudge*
.........
I mean *bump*
It's been asked a million times before, but if you have more courage than speed, does that affect how many times you can avoid? Let's say Mime has 4 spd, 6 crg, and 5 avoid. Will his avoid be affected by the higher crg and lower spd?
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I mean *bump*
It's been asked a million times before, but if you have more courage than speed, does that affect how many times you can avoid? Let's say Mime has 4 spd, 6 crg, and 5 avoid. Will his avoid be affected by the higher crg and lower spd?
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ZeroZero wrote:It's been asked a million times before, but if you have more courage than speed, does that affect how many times you can avoid? Let's say Mime has 4 spd, 6 crg, and 5 avoid. Will his avoid be affected by the higher crg and lower spd?
I don't know what the definative answer is but I tried out a bot with 5 speed & 5 avoid against 5 speed, 5 avoid & 1 courage and the no courage bot seemed to avoid more. Only checked over a few battles though but it was enough to make me re-plan my upgrades at that point.
Of course it could just have been coincidence. Never tried an avoid bot with more courage than speed though.
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Supercollider - Gestalt
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Supercollider wrote:ZeroZero wrote:It's been asked a million times before, but if you have more courage than speed, does that affect how many times you can avoid? Let's say Mime has 4 spd, 6 crg, and 5 avoid. Will his avoid be affected by the higher crg and lower spd?
I don't know what the definative answer is but I tried out a bot with 5 speed & 5 avoid against 5 speed, 5 avoid & 1 courage and the no courage bot seemed to avoid more. Only checked over a few battles though but it was enough to make me re-plan my upgrades at that point.
Of course it could just have been coincidence. Never tried an avoid bot with more courage than speen though.
Really? You should check out my team then! All my guys have more speed than courage.
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Avoid kicks in when (and only when) you are successfully hit. Then it gets the chance to activate and ignore all damage taken, so it really depends on your opponents courage.
Your courage means nothing to an Avoider in regard to its tactic use, its entirely reactionary.
Your courage means nothing to an Avoider in regard to its tactic use, its entirely reactionary.
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*Nitrox giggles* No, wait.....
*Mime chuckles* Nearly there.....
*ZeroZero laughs* That's my name!
I would've been still been Mime if I didn't lose my key for getting into Seibertron. But everything's cool now. My account's good! I'll stick with ZeroZero, I promise.
*Mime chuckles* Nearly there.....
*ZeroZero laughs* That's my name!
I would've been still been Mime if I didn't lose my key for getting into Seibertron. But everything's cool now. My account's good! I'll stick with ZeroZero, I promise.

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Ok, now with all of the xp and energon, I can upgrade to level 1 - the question is, how? Should I go by Glyph's website and upgrade through how he states you should with so much energon? Is there another gauge to go through?
I did go through the early steps of looking at speed and strength for upgrades at level 0, but now I am a little lost - any help is appreciated!
Thanks,
JF
I did go through the early steps of looking at speed and strength for upgrades at level 0, but now I am a little lost - any help is appreciated!
Thanks,
JF
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Jetfire2004 wrote:Ok, now with all of the xp and energon, I can upgrade to level 1 - the question is, how? Should I go by Glyph's website and upgrade through how he states you should with so much energon? Is there another gauge to go through?
I did go through the early steps of looking at speed and strength for upgrades at level 0, but now I am a little lost - any help is appreciated!
Thanks,
JF
All my best advise is kept here!
http://www.seibertron.com/forums/viewto ... =1478&sid=
As this version is only going to last a while I'd adgrade early and just remember that people can now donate if you need energon or that the reset button is always a good last resort.

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Psychout wrote:As an Autobot, all you need is Rank and Intelligence, the game does the rest for you.
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SC - thanks for the info - tons of help!
Now, I am freaking busy trying to upgrade and getting everyone setup - it is insane!
Now, I am freaking busy trying to upgrade and getting everyone setup - it is insane!
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So there are 30 pages ... a lot to read. Can anyone tell me Where or how to buy weapons, every time I click the link there is nothing to buy.
Best,
Iron Monkey
Best,
Iron Monkey
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Iron Monkey wrote:So there are 30 pages ... a lot to read. Can anyone tell me Where or how to buy weapons, every time I click the link there is nothing to buy.
Best,
Iron Monkey
That would indicate all the weapons you can equip are sold out.
At low levels though there are only a few weapons you might want to consider.
X-ray Laser and it's weaker cousin the Disruptor Rifle
then when you can get 2 upgrades in firepower
Dol Laser Rifle and it's weaker cousin the Double Barrelled Plasma Shotgun
Or 1 upgrade in Firepower and 1 in Skill for the Poisonous Paralyser FLuids.
I suspect all these are already sold out though.
Going unarmed and putting your first 4 upgrades into strength will beat several of those weapons I just listed and allow you to equip armour. That's really worth considering.

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Supercollider wrote:Iron Monkey wrote:So there are 30 pages ... a lot to read. Can anyone tell me Where or how to buy weapons, every time I click the link there is nothing to buy.
Best,
Iron Monkey
That would indicate all the weapons you can equip are sold out.
At low levels though there are only a few weapons you might want to consider.
X-ray Laser and it's weaker cousin the Disruptor Rifle
then when you can get 2 upgrades in firepower
Dol Laser Rifle and it's weaker cousin the Double Barrelled Plasma Shotgun
Or 1 upgrade in Firepower and 1 in Skill for the Poisonous Paralyser FLuids.
I suspect all these are already sold out though.
Going unarmed and putting your first 4 upgrades into strength will beat several of those weapons I just listed and allow you to equip armour. That's really worth considering.
Cool, thank you. I thiink you told me more there than I found out all day yesterday.
Best,
Iron Monkey
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Supercollider may be a weak willed autobot fool, but he's also pretty handy with the info and generally an all round decent bloke.
Hard to believe, but true
Hard to believe, but true

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RID_reborn wrote:iron monkey, try getting 3 firepower and Electric cannon
ya
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or a karma chameleon
BEAT L.A.
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WWWYKI!!!
BEAT THE PACERS DAMMIT THUNDER
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BEAT L.A.
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WWWYKI!!!
BEAT THE PACERS DAMMIT THUNDER
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I don't know if this is the right topic to post this, but meh.
If 5 semi-decent con's join this 10 vs. 10, we can win. The 10 'bots have 17 tech points, the 5 'cons have 9.
I don't know if this is the right topic to post this, but meh.
If 5 semi-decent con's join this 10 vs. 10, we can win. The 10 'bots have 17 tech points, the 5 'cons have 9.
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Just an aside but Iron Monkey - I think your sig might be a little too big, I think the rules are pixel size 500x300.

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I wish people would learn to use the capslock correctly.
as for energon, you've got a private forum, go begging one of the higher ups for money.
level 1 is the first real tast of HMW, the economy is slsnted so that the cost of fixing your level 1 is the same as the energon your earn for killing another level one, so aslong as you're dealing more damage than you recieve you will make money.
i don't really see a point of a game where you make money for losing. Poker would be crap.
as for energon, you've got a private forum, go begging one of the higher ups for money.
level 1 is the first real tast of HMW, the economy is slsnted so that the cost of fixing your level 1 is the same as the energon your earn for killing another level one, so aslong as you're dealing more damage than you recieve you will make money.
i don't really see a point of a game where you make money for losing. Poker would be crap.

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