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Re: Transformers Renaissance Almost over

Postby SlyTF1 » Thu May 26, 2011 3:16 pm

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shamone wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
shamone wrote:
5150 Cruiser wrote:
shamone wrote: well he point im trying to make is that you have to respect others people and their sensitivities. i accept that what offends others wont specifically affect you, you should acknowledge and accept that what doesnt offend you, may offend others,rather than call them out all the time and tell them to get over it.


If they want to get offended by little things then fine. But i still feel that they need to be prepared to get called out on it. And if i feel someones over reacting to a said situation, then you bet i'll be the first to call them out.

The thing is racisim and stereo types are always going to exsist. This is a fact that i don't believe anyone can argue. Has it gotten better over the last 100yrs? Absolutely. Will it continue to get better over the years? Absolutely. Will it ever go away completely? Absolutely not. Personally, I think the key to getting away from racisim and stereotypes is not to call complain about every little mi-nute detail, but to..

1- Not bring so much attention to such small, and otherwise dismisabal so called "stereo types" and claims of rasicim and antisemitism. (the jewish deli coment and Isrel deal)

2- Prove to the world that said culture does not represent themselves in that manner (the twins). Do so, and people will less and less accociate that kind of behavior with a said race or ethnic group.

Speaking of the twins, now look what we have..
They are not in the 3rd movie due to all the negative light people have put on not only them, but Bay and Co. To the point where he (along with Paramount and Hasbro)go out of thier way to tell everyone they will not be in the 3rd movie. I liked the twins. But even if i didn't, i'd still want them in for continuty sake. Even if they die in the first battle. BUt we can't even get that.


you make some good points, however, what this movie does is reinforce stereotypes which were dying out. It dregresses, which is what i find distasteful;.

The cartoon depiction in coal black and the twins is scarily accurate, and i feel uneasy that in this day and age, hollywood deems it appropriate. But im not telling you you are wrong, jsut that i feel differently

just check out slytf's reply to see why there is still a need for worry


There's no freaking hint of worry in my post. Why the hell would I be racist against my own race? I just don't get offended by it.



plenty of people ar racist against their own race.

tyler perry for one :D


I doubt he is.
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Re: Transformers Renaissance Almost over

Postby Xithys » Fri May 27, 2011 1:20 am

SlyTF1 wrote:
shamone wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
shamone wrote:
5150 Cruiser wrote:
shamone wrote: well he point im trying to make is that you have to respect others people and their sensitivities. i accept that what offends others wont specifically affect you, you should acknowledge and accept that what doesnt offend you, may offend others,rather than call them out all the time and tell them to get over it.


If they want to get offended by little things then fine. But i still feel that they need to be prepared to get called out on it. And if i feel someones over reacting to a said situation, then you bet i'll be the first to call them out.

The thing is racisim and stereo types are always going to exsist. This is a fact that i don't believe anyone can argue. Has it gotten better over the last 100yrs? Absolutely. Will it continue to get better over the years? Absolutely. Will it ever go away completely? Absolutely not. Personally, I think the key to getting away from racisim and stereotypes is not to call complain about every little mi-nute detail, but to..

1- Not bring so much attention to such small, and otherwise dismisabal so called "stereo types" and claims of rasicim and antisemitism. (the jewish deli coment and Isrel deal)

2- Prove to the world that said culture does not represent themselves in that manner (the twins). Do so, and people will less and less accociate that kind of behavior with a said race or ethnic group.

Speaking of the twins, now look what we have..
They are not in the 3rd movie due to all the negative light people have put on not only them, but Bay and Co. To the point where he (along with Paramount and Hasbro)go out of thier way to tell everyone they will not be in the 3rd movie. I liked the twins. But even if i didn't, i'd still want them in for continuty sake. Even if they die in the first battle. BUt we can't even get that.


you make some good points, however, what this movie does is reinforce stereotypes which were dying out. It dregresses, which is what i find distasteful;.

The cartoon depiction in coal black and the twins is scarily accurate, and i feel uneasy that in this day and age, hollywood deems it appropriate. But im not telling you you are wrong, jsut that i feel differently

just check out slytf's reply to see why there is still a need for worry


There's no freaking hint of worry in my post. Why the hell would I be racist against my own race? I just don't get offended by it.



plenty of people ar racist against their own race.

tyler perry for one :D


I doubt he is.


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Re: Transformers Renaissance Almost over

Postby shamone » Fri May 27, 2011 11:40 am

SlyTF1 wrote:
shamone wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
shamone wrote:
5150 Cruiser wrote:
shamone wrote: well he point im trying to make is that you have to respect others people and their sensitivities. i accept that what offends others wont specifically affect you, you should acknowledge and accept that what doesnt offend you, may offend others,rather than call them out all the time and tell them to get over it.


If they want to get offended by little things then fine. But i still feel that they need to be prepared to get called out on it. And if i feel someones over reacting to a said situation, then you bet i'll be the first to call them out.

The thing is racisim and stereo types are always going to exsist. This is a fact that i don't believe anyone can argue. Has it gotten better over the last 100yrs? Absolutely. Will it continue to get better over the years? Absolutely. Will it ever go away completely? Absolutely not. Personally, I think the key to getting away from racisim and stereotypes is not to call complain about every little mi-nute detail, but to..

1- Not bring so much attention to such small, and otherwise dismisabal so called "stereo types" and claims of rasicim and antisemitism. (the jewish deli coment and Isrel deal)

2- Prove to the world that said culture does not represent themselves in that manner (the twins). Do so, and people will less and less accociate that kind of behavior with a said race or ethnic group.

Speaking of the twins, now look what we have..
They are not in the 3rd movie due to all the negative light people have put on not only them, but Bay and Co. To the point where he (along with Paramount and Hasbro)go out of thier way to tell everyone they will not be in the 3rd movie. I liked the twins. But even if i didn't, i'd still want them in for continuty sake. Even if they die in the first battle. BUt we can't even get that.


you make some good points, however, what this movie does is reinforce stereotypes which were dying out. It dregresses, which is what i find distasteful;.

The cartoon depiction in coal black and the twins is scarily accurate, and i feel uneasy that in this day and age, hollywood deems it appropriate. But im not telling you you are wrong, jsut that i feel differently

just check out slytf's reply to see why there is still a need for worry


There's no freaking hint of worry in my post. Why the hell would I be racist against my own race? I just don't get offended by it.



plenty of people ar racist against their own race.

tyler perry for one :D


I doubt he is.



i was being facetious


the smiley was the clue
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Re: Transformers Renaissance Almost over

Postby SamYarbrough77 » Fri May 27, 2011 11:09 pm

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The Twins were okay, Someone Is always going to be mad about something. I am hoping for a good movie. Did you know the guy from (The Transformer Episode) Of "PAWN STARS" called about buying my collection? Pretty Neat. Really liked what Dagon and Rodimus Prime said. Aint got no love for a geewunner hater who said "I am so sick of hearing this" when I asked for designs closer to G1. I wonder what incarnations of Transformers these fans are loyal to and wonder if they have a Pokemon poster on there wall as well. Oh Yeah, Micheal Bay must be a xbox fanboy, not a PS3 suckas(scene from part1 lol) Yea, keep it lighthearted.
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Re: Transformers Renaissance Almost over

Postby SlyTF1 » Fri May 27, 2011 11:15 pm

Motto: "If my first sacrifice wasn't enough, maybe you would prefer to pay with your funky blood."
Weapon: Sword
Xithys wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
shamone wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
shamone wrote:
5150 Cruiser wrote:
shamone wrote: well he point im trying to make is that you have to respect others people and their sensitivities. i accept that what offends others wont specifically affect you, you should acknowledge and accept that what doesnt offend you, may offend others,rather than call them out all the time and tell them to get over it.


If they want to get offended by little things then fine. But i still feel that they need to be prepared to get called out on it. And if i feel someones over reacting to a said situation, then you bet i'll be the first to call them out.

The thing is racisim and stereo types are always going to exsist. This is a fact that i don't believe anyone can argue. Has it gotten better over the last 100yrs? Absolutely. Will it continue to get better over the years? Absolutely. Will it ever go away completely? Absolutely not. Personally, I think the key to getting away from racisim and stereotypes is not to call complain about every little mi-nute detail, but to..

1- Not bring so much attention to such small, and otherwise dismisabal so called "stereo types" and claims of rasicim and antisemitism. (the jewish deli coment and Isrel deal)

2- Prove to the world that said culture does not represent themselves in that manner (the twins). Do so, and people will less and less accociate that kind of behavior with a said race or ethnic group.

Speaking of the twins, now look what we have..
They are not in the 3rd movie due to all the negative light people have put on not only them, but Bay and Co. To the point where he (along with Paramount and Hasbro)go out of thier way to tell everyone they will not be in the 3rd movie. I liked the twins. But even if i didn't, i'd still want them in for continuty sake. Even if they die in the first battle. BUt we can't even get that.


you make some good points, however, what this movie does is reinforce stereotypes which were dying out. It dregresses, which is what i find distasteful;.

The cartoon depiction in coal black and the twins is scarily accurate, and i feel uneasy that in this day and age, hollywood deems it appropriate. But im not telling you you are wrong, jsut that i feel differently

just check out slytf's reply to see why there is still a need for worry


There's no freaking hint of worry in my post. Why the hell would I be racist against my own race? I just don't get offended by it.



plenty of people ar racist against their own race.

tyler perry for one :D


I doubt he is.


Uncle Ruckus.


He's the first person that came to my mind! :D
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Re: Transformers Renaissance Almost over

Postby Lastjustice » Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:00 pm

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Aint got no love for a geewunner hater who said "I am so sick of hearing this" when I asked for designs closer to G1. I wonder what incarnations of Transformers these fans are loyal to and wonder if they have a Pokemon poster on there wall as well.


I view transformers same way Bruce Lee views martial arts. Take what works leave the rest. It's a constant evolution, rather than a carbon copy of the last. This applies to everything, as it's the black arts of staying relevant.

Comics literally did what you're asking of focusing on the older fans and the industry went bankrupt. While comic book characters have become profitable, I doubt we''ll ever see the paper media be as popular as it once was prior to the collapse in the 90s. (due to many factors.) They've proven this direction does not work. It doesn't help that many of the long time fans are becoming writers and editors and trying live their "versions" of characters now as everything is being reset to the silver age. (Spider man brand new day, DC is doign this on a wide scale, from the Flash, Green lantern, Atom and many others.)

I don't hate G1 by any means but I'm not looking to relive it as often as possible either. Certain characters I'd love to see have new appearances in the movies from G1. Particularly Silverbolt, as him and jetfire/Skyfire are among my favorite G1 flyers. I think it would be awesome to see them merge the best elements of Beast Wars and g1 Silverbolt into a brand new character.

I think Transformers being robotic organisms that adapt to blend into their surrounding is the one franchise that has the biggest excuse to regularly change their characters heh. Let Transformers transform.
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