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[Counterpunch]

DNA kit on him, with Reprolabels, and DR. Wu fillers.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I find the DNA kit for Magnus utterly uninteresting. Now, if they were to do make a whole new trailer that could fit 4 deluxes and turned him from Leader-class to Commander-class, that would be something. But since they can't even be arsed to do a new foot upgrade for Fort Max that accounts for Cog, I shouldn't be surprised. HasTak will probably make such a trailer themselves before any of the 3P layabouts get to it.

The kit for Galaxy Upgrade Optimus, on the other hand.. That's making me actually kinda want the figure. Galaxy Upgrade's still not a patch on the real deal, but... Would be more fun with something that made him feel like less of a cheesy knockoff of it.

[Counterpunch]

I find the DNA kit for Magnus utterly uninteresting. Now, if they were to do make a whole new trailer that could fit 4 deluxes and turned him from Leader-class to Commander-class, that would be something. But since they can't even be arsed to do a new foot upgrade for Fort Max that accounts for Cog, I shouldn't be surprised. HasTak will probably make such a trailer themselves before any of the 3P layabouts get to it.

I don't understand the agro...

It's $20 for two accessories and wholly new transforming legs. In the kit world, that's like a Swiss army knife.

[aronjlove]

DNA kit on him, with Reprolabels, and DR. Wu fillers.

I'm avoiding labels, only because I know I would screw up the application so ain't gonna bother, but the DNA kits intrigue me. How hard was swapping the legs?

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Because I don't find the longer legs to add all that much to Ultra Magnus on their own, and I find the two accessories to be just kinda "there". I mean, the kit isn't bad, it's just... it doesn't add enough to Magnus to excite me, and it's frustrating that they seem to have developed that baseline kit and then said "Meh, good enough" rather than also creating an advanced kit to take things even further by replacing the trailer (especially since nobody else has taken up that task either).
And it's frustrating that they still haven't refined their Fort Max foot upgrade kit to account for Cog.

[Rainmaker]

What does the foot upgrade have to do with Cog?

[Ebonsaber]

Kinda think Jetfire's chesplate is a subtle homage to Macross' Armored Valkyrie and now wish there's a 3p add on made to complete the look. Utilizing C.O.M.B.A.T. feels inadequate...

[Hellscream9999]

Kinda think Jetfire's chesplate is a subtle homage to Macross' Armored Valkyrie and now wish there's a 3p add on made to complete the look. Utilizing C.O.M.B.A.T. feels inadequate...

We live in a dark world where that many guns on one giant robot is inadequate

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

What does the foot upgrade have to do with Cog?

Right now? Nothing, because there wasn't a new Cog around, official or otherwise, until SIEGE happened. But with SIEGE having given us a Cog to go with Fort Max, it would be nice to see the foot upgrade receive a deluxe update that adds whole new feet, because...

Kinda think Jetfire's chesplate is a subtle homage to Macross' Armored Valkyrie and now wish there's a 3p add on made to complete the look.

Eh, I think you're wrong there.

Because it's about as subtle as getting Fort Max dropped on your head.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Kinda think Jetfire's chesplate is a subtle homage to Macross' Armored Valkyrie and now wish there's a 3p add on made to complete the look. Utilizing C.O.M.B.A.T. feels inadequate...

Damn you made that Jetfire look good. I still sort of regret passing on him, especially when pictures like yours come up

[Stargrave]

Kinda think Jetfire's chesplate is a subtle homage to Macross' Armored Valkyrie and now wish there's a 3p add on made to complete the look. Utilizing C.O.M.B.A.T. feels inadequate...

Looks pretty adequate to me hot damn! My Jetfire’s mask still won’t stay on but dang is he a beaut. It’s like having a cell of the animation on my desk.

[Stargrave]

My order from collecticontoys.com showed up and I finally have Rumble and Ratbat. I won't have time to open the actual package until after work but their scarcity has made these two almost mythical in existence, I just had to post.

Thanks for sharing I need someone to keep the dream alive I’ll see those at some point aye carumba those two and Rung and I’m set.

[Bucky]

So I’m just going through my toy room, dusting and windexing my cases, and I get to Omega Supreme. I pop off the explodey effects, and that’s when I notice that some paint came off with them. Anybody else notice this happen to their Omega?? Is it an Omega only problem, or a problem that only happens with his effects bits?

[Sentinel_Primal]

So I’m just going through my toy room, dusting and windexing my cases, and I get to Omega Supreme. I pop off the explodey effects, and that’s when I notice that some paint came off with them. Anybody else notice this happen to their Omega?? Is it an Omega only problem, or a problem that only happens with his effects bits?

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From what I understand, it's a problem with the rubbery plastic used for the effects. It'll take the paint off of the nubs after being on them for a significant time

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Yeah, the paint came off those spots on mine too, but I barely notice it honestly

[Tuned Agent]

There's a lot of talk over in the Earthrise thread about how badly Siege Shockwave is shelfwarming at the moment, so I figured this would be the place to ask.

With new waves of leaders needing shelf space, what are the chances that Shockwave will be put on a massive clearance?

[D-Maximal_Primal]

There's a lot of talk over in the Earthrise thread about how badly Siege Shockwave is shelfwarming at the moment, so I figured this would be the place to ask.

With new waves of leaders needing shelf space, what are the chances that Shockwave will be put on a massive clearance?

Decent I would guess.

There are a ton of him at my local Walmart, have been for a while. I think they made a mistake repacking him with Galaxy Prime. It's really biting them right now

[no-one]

There's a lot of talk over in the Earthrise thread about how badly Siege Shockwave is shelfwarming at the moment, so I figured this would be the place to ask.

With new waves of leaders needing shelf space, what are the chances that Shockwave will be put on a massive clearance?

Decent I would guess.

There are a ton of him at my local Walmart, have been for a while. I think they made a mistake repacking him with Galaxy Prime. It's really biting them right now

Or is it biting fans waiting for a restock?

I'd say clearance prices are imminent.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

There's a lot of talk over in the Earthrise thread about how badly Siege Shockwave is shelfwarming at the moment, so I figured this would be the place to ask.

With new waves of leaders needing shelf space, what are the chances that Shockwave will be put on a massive clearance?

Decent I would guess.

There are a ton of him at my local Walmart, have been for a while. I think they made a mistake repacking him with Galaxy Prime. It's really biting them right now

Or is it biting fans waiting for a restock?

I'd say clearance prices are imminent.

I would hope so, otherwise leaders will never come back

[blackeyedprime]

There's a lot of talk over in the Earthrise thread about how badly Siege Shockwave is shelfwarming at the moment, so I figured this would be the place to ask.

With new waves of leaders needing shelf space, what are the chances that Shockwave will be put on a massive clearance?

Decent I would guess.

There are a ton of him at my local Walmart, have been for a while. I think they made a mistake repacking him with Galaxy Prime. It's really biting them right now

Or is it biting fans waiting for a restock?

I'd say clearance prices are imminent.

I would hope so, otherwise leaders will never come back

Or they may have to start making leader price point figures leader sized figures shockwave and galaxy prime were already at discount over here in short supply at tk maxx and usually we only get toys there that tj maxx hasn't been able to shift stateside so it was very random.

[ZeroWolf]

The problem with leader sized figures is that now with the mission statement of scale, it limits the characters that can be done, especially when thinking long term. It's far better now to think of parts count as the major factor between size classes, as well as quality of the pieces involved. Take the rumoured Doubledealer of Earthrise, he'll likely be voyager sized (or more so) then leader sized but the increased parts count will lend itself to capturing both of his alt modes.

[Hellscream9999]

The problem with leader sized figures is that now with the mission statement of scale, it limits the characters that can be done, especially when thinking long term. It's far better now to think of parts count as the major factor between size classes, as well as quality of the pieces involved. Take the rumoured Doubledealer of Earthrise, he'll likely be voyager sized (or more so) then leader sized but the increased parts count will lend itself to capturing both of his alt modes.

Yeah, this is something peopple have to get over, cuz the same people who were salty over shockwaves price are the same people who are salty over astrotrains price, ironically such a long hunted figure might end up as the new shockwave

[blackeyedprime]

I tip my hat to those sensible to wait for price reductions on shockwave/astrotrain/cliff jumper.

I'll let those richer than me disect the tr/siege astrotrains whilst confident that my cheaper tr astrotrain fits in with the cybertronian look of the siege figures and siege astrotrain is a better fit for earthrise, overpriced with stoopid boots as is. As for quality and piece count, ko mp shockwave was a much better buy from overseas than what would have cost more to buy the siege figure at rrp for a line with some out of scale figures to a mostly scale conflicted series anyways. Price definitely doesn't mean quality or higher piece count, imperfect world and all that.

[no-one]

The problem with leader sized figures is that now with the mission statement of scale, it limits the characters that can be done, especially when thinking long term. It's far better now to think of parts count as the major factor between size classes, as well as quality of the pieces involved. Take the rumoured Doubledealer of Earthrise, he'll likely be voyager sized (or more so) then leader sized but the increased parts count will lend itself to capturing both of his alt modes.

Yeah, this is something peopple have to get over, cuz the same people who were salty over shockwaves price are the same people who are salty over astrotrains price, ironically such a long hunted figure might end up as the new shockwave

I get the argument, but the size of the Siege leaders vs price was never an issue for me. I felt that most of the previous line's leaders were comically oversized. Of course I always want to pay less and all of Shockwave's extra parts are the drawer of misfit accessories, but I don't feel ripped off or cheated for him or Ultra Magnus. I also feel their heights are spot on and their quality/design match the price points. I'm willing to pay more for quality and/or a figure that matches what I want. I feel the same way about ER Cliffjumper.

With that said and mostly because Astrotrain isn't a priority (TR is good enough), I'll be waiting on a decent price drop.

[SpikeyTigertron]

The problem with leader sized figures is that now with the mission statement of scale, it limits the characters that can be done, especially when thinking long term. It's far better now to think of parts count as the major factor between size classes, as well as quality of the pieces involved. Take the rumoured Doubledealer of Earthrise, he'll likely be voyager sized (or more so) then leader sized but the increased parts count will lend itself to capturing both of his alt modes.

Yeah, this is something peopple have to get over, cuz the same people who were salty over shockwaves price are the same people who are salty over astrotrains price, ironically such a long hunted figure might end up as the new shockwave

I get the argument, but the size of the Siege leaders vs price was never an issue for me. I felt that most of the previous line's leaders were comically oversized. Of course I always want to pay less and all of Shockwave's extra parts are the drawer of misfit accessories, but I don't feel ripped off or cheated for him or Ultra Magnus. I also feel their heights are spot on and their quality/design match the price points. I'm willing to pay more for quality and/or a figure that matches what I want. I feel the same way about ER Cliffjumper.

With that said and mostly because Astrotrain isn't a priority (TR is good enough), I'll be waiting on a decent price drop.

I still feel throwing the armor pieces in the “junk box” is really selling the playability short. At the very least with Astrotrain you get more city/base pieces.

I felt that shockwaves bits condensing into a hover drone was pretty brilliant if you didn’t want to “armor him up”.