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News Credits: 20 · by **Neko** » Wed May 06, 2009 5:48 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Neko wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:I liked Kaminari Ishihara. Petr was alright, he didn't do that much. Kaminari was actually in the middle of the action.

True, but she smelt vaguely of 'Mary su' to me.

Excuse my ignorance, but I don't get the reference...

Also, I wonder if the Simmons/Frenzy part will come to fruition in RotF. I know we saw Simmons in the trailers, but it would be cool if they said he saved Frenzy. Because I (and I am sure many others) thought Frenzy offed himself.

I don't think I've ever come across someone on the net who didn't know what Mary Sue means. lol

wikipedia wrote:A Mary Sue (sometimes just Sue), in literary criticism and particularly in fanfiction, is a fictional character with overly idealized and hackneyed mannerisms, lacking noteworthy flaws, and primarily functioning as wish-fulfillment fantasies for their authors or readers. Perhaps the single underlying feature of all characters described as "Mary Sues" is that they are too ostentatious for the audience's taste, or that the author seems to favor the character too highly. The author may seem to push how exceptional and wonderful the "Mary Sue" character is on his or her audience, sometimes leading the audience to dislike or even resent the character fairly quickly; such a character could be described as an "author's pet".

"Mary Sues" can be either male or female, but male characters are often dubbed "Marty Stu", "Gary Stu", or similar names.[1] While the label "Mary Sue" itself originates from a parody of this type of character, most characters labeled "Mary Sues" by readers are not intended by authors as such.

While the term is generally limited to fan-created characters, and its most common usage today occurs within the fan fiction community or in reference to fan fiction, original characters in role-playing games or literary canon are also sometimes criticized as being "Mary Sues" or "canon Sues," if they dominate the spotlight or are too unrealistic or unlikely in other ways. Examples of this are Wesley Crusher from Star Trek: The Next Generation[2][3][4] and Bella Swan from Twilight.[5]

As for Frenzy, I'm curious to see how that pans out as well. The book seemed to leave that hanging a bit.

News Credits: 150 · by **GetterDragun** » Thu May 07, 2009 12:13 am

Neko wrote:
I don't think I've ever come across someone on the net who didn't know what Mary Sue means. lol

What's to laugh about? I'm glad I didn't know what it meant after reading the definition.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Thu May 07, 2009 12:58 am

Neko wrote:

I don't think I've ever come across someone on the net who didn't know what Mary Sue means. lol

First time for everything.

wikipedia wrote:A Mary Sue (sometimes just Sue), in literary criticism and particularly in fanfiction, is a fictional character with overly idealized and hackneyed mannerisms, lacking noteworthy flaws, and primarily functioning as wish-fulfillment fantasies for their authors or readers. Perhaps the single underlying feature of all characters described as "Mary Sues" is that they are too ostentatious for the audience's taste, or that the author seems to favor the character too highly. The author may seem to push how exceptional and wonderful the "Mary Sue" character is on his or her audience, sometimes leading the audience to dislike or even resent the character fairly quickly; such a character could be described as an "author's pet".

"Mary Sues" can be either male or female, but male characters are often dubbed "Marty Stu", "Gary Stu", or similar names.[1] While the label "Mary Sue" itself originates from a parody of this type of character, most characters labeled "Mary Sues" by readers are not intended by authors as such.

While the term is generally limited to fan-created characters, and its most common usage today occurs within the fan fiction community or in reference to fan fiction, original characters in role-playing games or literary canon are also sometimes criticized as being "Mary Sues" or "canon Sues," if they dominate the spotlight or are too unrealistic or unlikely in other ways. Examples of this are Wesley Crusher from Star Trek: The Next Generation[2][3][4] and Bella Swan from Twilight.[5]

Really. Never knew that. I recently wrote a TF fanfic, and it appears Grimlock is my "Gary Stu."

As for Frenzy, I'm curious to see how that pans out as well. The book seemed to leave that hanging a bit.

Yeah, really. He went into it in only one chapter, and never even explained other than when Frenzy gets pissed, all the lights go out. :roll:

by **0rionPax** » Thu May 07, 2009 4:16 pm

The novel did include spoilers indirectly about the revival of Megatron though;

The decepts are going to be split into two factions, followers of Starscream, or followers of the Fallen/loyal followers of Megatron....

Since Megs is the Fallen's pet puppet, the decepts are gathering random radioactive materials and harnessing enough energy to revive him, but they need a vessel (or vessels) to carry the combined energy and jump-start him.

There was also this interesting bit with a crab-former that infiltrated a NEST camp, who returned to another offshore being.....

All in all it was a story of its own, but fairly interesting at best.

by **0rionPax** » Thu May 07, 2009 4:38 pm

Oh and many greetings and thanks to Mr. Foster, I have read this and also Ghosts of yesterday.

I am a fanboy of the original series, but have evolved with time unlike my predecessors. I dig what you were doing with those books, and appreciate the story you revealed beside the story that was hidden the entire time.

My only complaint is that there weren't any references to the Fallen.

News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:49 pm

After reading this book anyone else wondering about some of the "new" Decepticons? I had heard that the writer of the book tried to work with the makers of the Alliance comic to make the stories mesh. In Alliance we saw characters like Incinerator (Osprey), Reverb (Helicopter) and Gunbarrel (anti-aircraft tank) seemingly arrive and then die in issues 3 and 4. In the Veiled Threat we saw Ruination (Osprey), Blademaster (helicopter) and Payload (anti-aircraft tank) among the Decepticon forces. Anyone else just thinking the book messed up the names?

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:27 am

Well the book doesn't even mesh with the comics. And the fact that Barricade shows up and dies is also an oddity. It's as if the first movie's events and deaths didn't really pay apart in anything.

News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:37 am

Barricade doesn't die in The Veiled Threat or in the Alliance comics. I'm not sure what you read.

In Velied Threat Barricade was burried alive in the fight, and when workers arrived the next moring they found a tunnel there, where he had dug his way out.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Barricade_%28Mov ... quel_novel

In Alliance they just make a vague reference to Barricade getting away from them.