Phategod1 wrote:I guess I'll post before this thread gets locked. a couple of things
1. bay has ONE style of directing movies He'll never change that his movies are loud and bombastic. The only upside is if makes one more flop he will be forgotten like Paul WS Anderson, or Joel Schumacher.
Um. If he makes one more flop, he'll be forgotten? No.
Let's go over his list, shall we?
Bad Boys, in 1995, starring Will Smith and Martin Lawrence. The movie became a success with a total of almost $141 million in ticket sales worldwide
The Rock (1996), The movie won a number of minor awards, including 'Best On-Screen Duo' for Connery and Cage at the MTV Movie Awards as well as an
Academy Award nomination for Best Sound.
1998, Armageddon.
Despite the poor reviews and criticism, Armageddon was
nominated for four Academy Awards at the 71st Academy Awards in the technical categories of Best Sound, Best Visual Effects, Best Sound Editing, and Best Original Song, and
went on to gross over US$550 million worldwide. (I bolded the important parts, of course. Even though it was considered a dud with the critics, it was a box office SMASH.)
2001, Pearl Harbor. Critical response was largely negative and many critics dismissed the film. At the 2002 Academy Awards, Pearl Harbor was nominated for four awards, winning one for Sound Effects Editing. Its other nominations were for Best Sound, Best Visual Effects, and Best Song. (Again, critics bashed it, but for a movie that low on the ratings totem pole, it still was considered a financial success.)
Bad Boys II, The film, though the subject of some vicious criticism for its length, brutality, bloated plot, misogynistic depiction of women and violent sense of humor—some have said it is the ultimate example of Bay's aesthetic—was a success at the US box office. It made $138 million domestic gross, enough to cover the production budget, and $273 million worldwide, almost twice as much as the original movie. (Critically panned, yet a massive success)
In 2005, The Island, his
first to be a disappointment in the US domestic box office earning only $36 million; it was more successful overseas, where it netted a respectable $163 million worldwide. Although not particularly well-received, some critics did note a gentler, more humanistic side to the film, and praised the special effects, stunts, Mauro Fiore's cinematography, and Bay's handling of the movie's intense, multiple chase scenes. (so far...one flop. ONE.)
In 2007, Transformers, The preview screenings earned $8.8 million, and in its first day of general release it grossed $27.8 million, a record for Tuesday box office attendance. It broke Spider-Man 2's record for the biggest July 4 gross, making $29 million. On its opening weekend, Transformers grossed $70.5 million, amounting to a $155.4 million opening week, giving it the record for the biggest opening week for a non-sequel. As of November 2007, the film has made over $319 million domestically and
over $708 million worldwide,
it was well received by audiences, and received average to positive reviews from critics. (A B+ on Yahoo! Movies. That's rare.)
So, tell me. With only one film considered a flop (but only domestically), but the rest of his movies being MASSIVE hits. How is it that another flop would ruin his career?
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Yeah...didn't think you'd have an answer for that one.
ROTF is already being tracked and is expected to pull in $175 million in it's first 5 days. That's 25 mil short of it's total production cost. It'll clear far, far, far more than that. It's going to mop up the competition this summer.
Phategod1 wrote:2. Shadow I don't know if you really consider those lines cheesy but almost everyone of line resonated with me. But the other guy (sorry I forgot his name)mentions the cheesy lines in The Motion picture 2007 you didn't say anything about those and explain which is more forgivable cheese in 1984 or cheese in 2007.
It's TransFormers for the masses! Not Shakespeare! To expect anything resembling Shakespeare is just silly and kinda crazy.
And sure, there were cheesy lines in the '07 film, but a good portion of them were recycled from TFTM in '86!
But, to counter those cheese lines, ROTF has one piece of gold. It might be cheesy to some, but it's deep enough to actually be worth a damn.
"Fate rarely calls upon us at a time of our choosing." It's true! It's got enough impact to be worth something.
And this thread was doomed from the getgo. Not so much the topic, the tone.
NOTE: Realize that I am not a perfect Christian, nor do I profess to be. I apologize if anyone's ever offended by me, I'm not perfect. Don't hold my posts and opinions against other Christians.
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