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I'm rather disappointed they ditched everything that made the original Ironhide/Ratchet toys unique and redesigned them as bog-standard, gimmick-free humanoid bots. Same with "standardising" all the other Autobots, but toy IH and Ratch had a lot of potential.


*is glad Whirl never got into the cartoon*

Noideaforaname wrote:I'm rather disappointed they ditched everything that made the original Ironhide/Ratchet toys unique and redesigned them as bog-standard, gimmick-free humanoid bots. Same with "standardising" all the other Autobots, but toy IH and Ratch had a lot of potential.


*is glad Whirl never got into the cartoon*

Maybe you are right.I love your IDW style Whirl!

The Movie Twins
Rattrap
Kup
Blurr's G1 toy
Chromedome
Wreck Gar
Movie Nightbeat. Love the car though.
G1 Optimus Prime's toy head with those evil, creepu, unheroic yellow optics.
Cybertron Megatron
Cybertron Optimus Prime
Movie Driller
Mainframe
Energon Signal Flare
Straxus
Goldbug
Lockdown

Windsweeper wrote:The Movie Twins
Rattrap
Kup
Blurr's G1 toy
Chromedome
Wreck Gar
Movie Nightbeat. Love the car though.
G1 Optimus Prime's toy head with those evil, creepu, unheroic yellow optics.
Cybertron Megatron
Cybertron Optimus Prime
Movie Driller
Mainframe
Energon Signal Flare
Straxus
Goldbug
Lockdown

Do you mean the Galaxy Force toys or the renditions of these characters in Cybertronian alt modes like in FOC? Because if it's the first one, I am curious to know what makes Cybertron Optimus/Galaxy Convoy so ugly.

With regards to Megatron he could be referring to the colour scheme, I mean the mold looks fantastic in the Galvatron colours

Tako Tank.

It's mainly the colours on both.

I've always hated transformers with face plates and Primes yellow eyes just bug me. I think they remind of G1 Primes creepy yellow eyes that make him look evil and unheroic.

On reflection it's not just the colours. I just don't like the look of either bot.

Titanium series Megatron.

Wobbly loose joints. No poseability. Falls apart if I sneeze near it. Falls over if I look at it funny. Ugly toy on all fronts.

Windsweeper wrote:It's mainly the colours on both.

I've always hated transformers with face plates and Primes yellow eyes just bug me. I think they remind of G1 Primes creepy yellow eyes that make him look evil and unheroic.

On reflection it's not just the colours. I just don't like the look of either bot.

You do know primes face plate can shift down thanks to the lever on the back of his head right? The face plate is only there for battle mode. Personally I love Cybertron Prime and think he's fantastic, a real joy to play with.

Optimus Minor will always be the ugliest transformer in my collection

Prime Riblet wrote:G1 Ratchet and Ironhide. They were just terrible. And silly.

I sure hope y'all don't talk about your dear old Grandparents this way.
Now pack a lunch and sharpin your pencils, 'cause Grampa is gonna take you to school!

Sabrblade wrote:

Prime Riblet wrote:I was actually considering them ugly based on only themselves as toys. They are just so strange in their style and design. There is a little bitty body with a ginormous windshield and a little square face behind it. And then he stands on his weird little battle platform. That toy is just the weirdest thing ever.

Well, the toy wasn't originally meant to be viewed as a living robotic organism. It was designed to be a human-operated mech machine for the Diaclone line.

Thank you Sabsie. A+!

All Diaclone toys came with these little fellers, and pretty much all of them had a place for them to go. According to Diaclone all the "G1" cast were non-sentient Mechs, if you will.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:True, the Diaclone was more of a glorified exosuit than a robot. It even had a proper seat for the pilot (where the "robot face" would end up)!

Right again Jelze! A+!
Hence Ratchet/Ironhide's Alt modes.

This, at the time was also very much in line with Microman. In fact, that's who these little fellas are. And they drove all sorts of bots.

Noideaforaname wrote:I'm rather disappointed they ditched everything that made the original Ironhide/Ratchet toys unique and redesigned them as bog-standard, gimmick-free humanoid bots. Same with "standardising" all the other Autobots, but toy IH and Ratch had a lot of potential.

THANK YOU SIR!!! A+!
Now show these old war veterans some dang respect! They adapted as best they could to their god awful cartoon character models.
If you wanna talk about some ugly Transformers, this guy has the right Idea.

shajaki wrote:generally speaking, most of the bay-cepticons are ugly.

Shajaki, you get an A+ for the day!

I hope y'all learned somethin' today.
And don't make Grampa get out of his chair again! The Peoples Court is about to come on DAG BLASTED!

I HAD NO IDEA THATS HOW THE VANS WERE MEANT TO BE!
it all makes sense! that headless window display was meant to be a mech of sorts?! MY LIFE HAS MEANING AGAIN!

G1 Omega Supreme? Not even the ugliest G1. Not even ugly at all in my opinion, but certainly not uglier than stuff like the monster pretenders (and I mean the interior bots, and no not in a "they sposed ta be ugly way).

Also, anyone who said Omega clearly has never seen a single bayformer, as every last one of them is much uglier than Mr. Supreme.

Cobotron wrote:

Prime Riblet wrote:G1 Ratchet and Ironhide. They were just terrible. And silly.

I sure hope y'all don't talk about your dear old Grandparents this way.
Now pack a lunch and sharpin your pencils, 'cause Grampa is gonna take you to school!

I don't think anyone is going to get taken to school, since I already know and understand the history behind the actual toy. Taken as a toy, not taking into account what it is supposed to actually be, the thing is dog ugly. Granted that is only my opinion, but that opinion isn't going to change. I guess I am just going to have to ditch class today.

Optimum Supreme wrote:Also, anyone who said Omega clearly has never seen a single bayformer, as every last one of them is much uglier than Mr. Supreme.

Even Jazz?

G1 Groove. That toy barely passes as anything other than a Motorbike with a face drawn on. His destiny is and always will be - a leg. Its just not worth displaying in robot mode.

Amelie wrote:G1 Groove. That toy barely passes as anything other than a Motorbike with a face drawn on. His destiny is and always will be - a leg. Its just not worth displaying in robot mode.

i had groove as a kid... and youre totally right but i never thought of it that way

Amelie wrote:G1 Groove. That toy barely passes as anything other than a Motorbike with a face drawn on. His destiny is and always will be - a leg. Its just not worth displaying in robot mode.

Glide (or Universe Groove) might have it even worse than Groove, and he's not even a leg (he's back kibble).

^ He's wearing a dress.

Sabrblade wrote:^ He's wearing a dress.

An 80's dress with massive shoulder pads no less.

MightyMagnus78 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:^ He's wearing a dress.

An 80's dress with massive shoulder pads no less.

And a bonnet.

Sabrblade wrote:^ He's wearing a dress.

Horrible indeed!I prefer ROTF Arcee to this.

Can't believe I forgot this guy before:


RiD Bruticus. Cerberus/Dante's Satan should be the coolest Transformer ever, but... well, just LOOK at it. A jumbled mess of I don't even know what's going on.

Noideaforaname wrote:Can't believe I forgot this guy before:


RiD Bruticus. Cerberus/Dante's Satan should be the coolest Transformer ever, but... well, just LOOK at it. A jumbled mess of I don't even know what's going on.

You kiddin'? His hideousness is what makes him awesome!